Originally posted by GeneV No one on this end is stepping around or skirting anything and I'm not going to rehash all the pages of this argument. Williams abd the people sitting around him were very lucky he shot at someone who couldn't or wouldn't shoot back, and what he did turned out well only because of that luck, but what he did was also not wise and poorly executed. Different situations call for different actions. In the situation of a clerk alone in a store with a knife-wielding bandit, the clerk will get no argument from me if he fires away.
The Cafe Bandits couldn't or wouldn't shoot back? At the bare minimum, one of the Cafe Bandits had a ball bat and was using it to bust up the place. Plus, only the gun toting bandit said his .45 wouldn't work. Furthermore, they started the criminal felony act. Williams didn't shoot at people sitting in chairs. He still went 3 for 5. It is funny that the people that were there aren't the ones complaining.
As far as the Wisconsin Bandits go, they were armed against an unarmed 71 y.o. man. Plus, their presence on the street put many in danger. These guys were on a spree in Wisc before fleeing to FL. Who knows what they did in between.
Update: Fugitives suspected in brutal beating of convenience store clerk
You still ignored the fact that the Cafe Bandits are off the streets. The "firing" away comment is very naive. Plus, it is still they wait to see if the "hurt you bad or kill you" before you do something logic. The bad guys have already demonstrated they were willing to perpetrate mayhem in both cases.