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07-25-2012, 10:52 AM   #1
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Regional but it sure is revealing............

Hope springs eternal for Wisconsin's election reformers - Isthmus | The Daily Page
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They urge the Legislature to:

Require disclosure of all spending sources in state elections.
Close the loophole that lets officials targeted for recall raise unlimited amounts.
Insist that corporations get shareholder permission before spending on political campaigns.
Make broadcast outlets and newspapers post online records of campaign ad buys.
Create an independent, nonpartisan body to oversee the redrawing of voter boundaries.

These may strike some people as reasonable changes. But state Rep. Robin Vos (R-Burlington) sees no chance of them passing the Assembly. He pegs the signatories as being "all on the left end of the political spectrum," and calls their motives into question.

"It is not surprising that groups on the left want to change the rules, because they have not been able to succeed under the current system," says Vos, likely the next Assembly speaker if Republicans retain their substantial majority in the fall elections.
Also interesting.......
http://www.thedailypage.com/isthmus/article.php?article=37279
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Mary Magnuson, an electoral reform activist, submitted an open records request to the Madison city clerk on June 14 asking to inspect "any and all ballots," including optical scanned ballots and absentee ballots, that were cast in Wards 16, 19, 39, 40 and 100 in the recall election against Gov. Scott Walker. She also asked to inspect the tapes used in the scanners and any inspectors' reports prepared by poll workers.

Magnuson, who lives in Brookfield, has made similar requests to nine other municipalities. Another group, Hand Count Votes Now!, filed open records requests on July 2 with all of the state's 72 county clerks to review recall ballots. Margy Lambert, one of the group's main organizers, says the timing was critical — clerks are allowed to destroy ballots from state elections 30 days after an election.

Hand Count Votes Now! has also recently joined forces with Wisconsin Wave, a group that grew out of the uprising against Walker. Wisconsin Wave is fundraising, recruiting and scheduling volunteers, while Lambert's group is providing volunteer training.

These activists are concerned about election fraud, not to be confused with voter fraud


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Your neighbors are in pretty much the same boat. Michigan Republicans have challenged a petition to put the emergency manager question on the ballot. Their point of challange? The size font used on the petitions.
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Your neighbors are in pretty much the same boat. Michigan Republicans have challenged a petition to put the emergency manager question on the ballot. Their point of challange? The size font used on the petitions.
I'd laugh at this if it wasn't so real....
too little too late???
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The statutory provision relied upon by the Republican Members of the State Board of Canvassers was MCL 168.482.

But, there is ample precedent in Michigan law that says what they did villated their duties under the law. A recent Michigan Court of Appeals decision — which is binding law in Michigan — stated:

“It is well established by both statute and case law that petitions need only substantially conform to the statutory requirements. MCL 168.544d (petitions shall be on forms that are “substantially as provided in sections 482 …”); see also Charter Twp of Bloomfield v Oakland Co Clerk, 253 Mich App 1, 22-23, 654 NW2d 610 (2002). In Newsome v Bd of State Canvassers, 69 Mich App 725, 729, 245 N.W.2d 374 (1976), this Court held that “[c]onstitutional and statutory initiative and referendum provisions should be liberally construed to effectuate their purposes, to facilitate rather than hamper the exercise by the people of these reserved rights.” Id., citing Kuhn v Dep’t of Treasury, 384 Mich 378, 183 NW2d 796 (1971). In Settles v Detroit City Clerk, 169 Mich App 797, 802-803, 427 NW2d 188 (1988), this Court reaffirmed the general rule that “all doubts as to technical deficiencies or failure to comply with the exact letter of procedural requirements in petitions … are resolved in favor of permitting the people to vote and express a choice on any proposal subject to election.” Thus, even if the additional language in the “ introduction” on the back of the petition could be considered a defect, we do not find it a fatal one.” — Coalition to Defend Affirmative Action & Integration v Bd of State Canvassers, 262 Mich App 395, 405-406; 686 NW2d 287 (2004) (Citation format amended).

The Courts will order the State Bd of Canvassers to approve the petition under this well-established case law.
Why you don't riot, I have no clue..
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The Michigan Board of State Canvassers today rejected a petition drive that would have put the state’s emergency manager law on the November ballot. The board’s staff had reported (pdf) that the petitioners had collected enough signatures, and recommended (pdf) that the board deny a challenge on the basis that the petition’s type size might be too small.

That challenge came from a project living inside the same Republican consulting firm with a partner on the board. Also on the four member board was a Democrat whose labor union had worked to collect signatures. In the end, the board voted two-two, on party lines, meaning the petitions were toast. They had been signed by more than 200,000 Michigan voters.


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QuoteOriginally posted by jeffkrol Quote
I'd laugh at this if it wasn't so real....
too little too late???

Why you don't riot, I have no clue..
I don't think it's done yet. I'm sure there will be a court challenge. Then maybe the riot.
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I don't think it's done yet. I'm sure there will be a court challenge. Then maybe the riot.
Seems the problem w/ the court challenge is it won't be "timely" to get on the Nov. ballot.. I would hope the petition is validated.. it is just a matter of when..
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