[Wheatfield]

Apparently, the possibility of being attacked with a fish stick is reason enough to execute a person.

Cape Coral shooting suspect once pulled gun on meter reader, former prosecutor says | The News-Press | news-press.com
Expect SYG to at least be attempted as a defense. After all, a frozen fish can be just as deadly a weapon a 9mm Glock.

[Blue]

Apparently, the possibility of being attacked with a fish stick is reason enough to execute a person.

Apparently not, he is in jail without bond on Murder 2.

Cape Coral shooting suspect once pulled gun on meter reader, former prosecutor says | The News-Press | news-press.com

Expect SYG to at least be attempted as a defense. After all, a frozen fish can be just as deadly a weapon a 9mm Glock.

Actually, this wouldn't be an SYG. However, while a defense lawyer may try some other angle under 776.013, it won't work. I am surprised the prosecutor isn't taking it to the Grand Jury for a Murder 1 indictment. Furthermore, his bond was denied.

Edit: What don't you post some news from your province and neighboring provinces?

[magkelly]

Explaining his actions to police after the shooting, Roop said he became “more than a little nervous” as Rainey walked down the driveway toward his truck and appeared to have something in his hand.

"As Rainey drew within 4 feet, Roop grabbed his 9mm Glock from his pocket and fired once, striking Rainey in the shoulder, he told police. Rainey fell to the ground, screaming, ‘You shot me,’ in what Roop described as an “antagonistic” manner, according to the report.

Roop said he was still in fear and thought Rainey was reaching for something, so he shot Rainey once more in the back of the head, “for effect,” the report said. A company order brochure and cell phone were found near Rainey’s body."

There's your answer right there. He's a nut job. Even if that first shot was legal, which it probably wasn't, he was outside on a driveway. He shot him again, in the back of the head while he was already down. That's execution not defense. Didn't call 911? That was a guy who was itching to kill someone. Thought he could use the SYG laws to get away with it. He makes all gun owners look bad, but the gun wasn't a problem. His warped brain is the problem. The guy selling should not have ignored the signs, but selling door to door is no crime and I doubt a box of fish looked even vaguely like a gun. It was an excuse to shoot the guy. This is why I do support harder checks for people buying guns.

People this mental definitely shouldn't own them but it says nothing about gun owners in general. He had a history of mental stuff. Incidents like this. He scared a meter reader with a gun once, and there was a complaint made, so why did he still have any guns? People like this slipping through the cracks bugs me but I don't want all guns to be banned because of them. It's not my fault he's mental. They really do need to check this kind of thing more closely though before they issue a license to own. Nearly shooting a meter reader should have gotten his guns taken away. That's a pretty major thing. I'm very surprised his permits were not revoked.

[Parallax]

Apparently not, he is in jail without bond on Murder 2.

Damn, Blue. Nothing like taking the wind out of someones sails!

Edit: What don't you post some news from your province and neighboring provinces?

No way to spin it to make Americans look bad.
Besides, Canada is crime free. (Except after hockey games, but that doesn't count. )

[Tom S.]

Damn, Blue. Nothing like taking the wind out of someones sails!

No way to spin it to make Americans look bad.
Besides, Canada is crime free. (Except after hockey games, but that doesn't count. )

That won't stop our northern friends.

[Tom S.]

Homicide victim Canada as a safe haven.

Police ID body

[Tom S.]

Canadian Psycho’: Porn Star Mail Murderer Arrested in Germany

Read about it here

[Wheatfield]

Apparently not, he is in jail without bond on Murder 2.

I'm sure his victim is gratified by that.
What part of the "system" broke down? Was the firearm illegal?
Was he permitted to carry after pulling a gun on a meter reader?
I thought you said that waving a gun at a person is a felony. Are felons allowed guns?

[Blue]

I'm sure his victim is gratified by that.
What part of the "system" broke down? Was the firearm illegal?
Was he permitted to carry after pulling a gun on a meter reader?
I thought you said that waving a gun at a person is a felony. Are felons allowed guns?

Do you not read the stuff you post? The answer was in the article you posted.

Sotomayor led the state’s case against Roop in 2005, when he was charged with improper exhibition of a weapon.


“I knew this guy was a time bomb, I really did,” Sotomayor said. “It’s unfortunate we didn’t get him convicted.”

Apparently your judges are allowed to have firearms.

Canadian judge convicted of first degree murder for shooting wife.

Former Quebec judge guilty of 1st-degree murder - Montreal - CBC News



It is guys like this and the judge that I have a ccw.

[Parallax]

I'm sure his victim is gratified by that.
What part of the "system" broke down?

The part that was supposed to make Americans, all of them, perfect; you know, like Canadians. (Except for that inborn, uncontrollable need to destroy someone else's property after hockey games)

[magkelly]

Tell me something when did Canadians and Americans on this board start sniping at each other all the time? Why? I've never seen this. I live in the same park with at least a couple hundred Canadians, most of them p/t residents. Meet tons of them all the time at park events. They're all perfectly lovely people. I've never heard anything like this out of them. Most of the Canadians I know get along very well with the Americans. I just don't get this, what's happening here. It's not just this topic. People on both sides are always being really snarky to each other.

[Parallax]

Tell me something when did Canadians and Americans on this board start sniping at each other all the time?

April, 2008. :LOL:

Seriously, like most Americans, I didn't know Canadians blamed Americans for all of the world's ills until I read it here.

We do have one thing in common, however. In general, we Americans like Canadians; so do Canadians.

[Wheatfield]

Tell me something when did Canadians and Americans on this board start sniping at each other all the time? Why? I've never seen this. I live in the same park with at least a couple hundred Canadians, most of them p/t residents. Meet tons of them all the time at park events. They're all perfectly lovely people. I've never heard anything like this out of them. Most of the Canadians I know get along very well with the Americans. I just don't get this, what's happening here. It's not just this topic. People on both sides are always being really snarky to each other.

For the most part, I'm trying to have a discussion regarding a country that borders on mine, and which, due to the disparity in size, has a rather outsized effect on my country. The extreme levels of social violence in your country are very worrisome because we are, more and more, starting to see "American style" violence being committed in Canada.
We've had two mass shootings in the past couple of weeks, acts which up until recently, were almost unheard of in this country.
Living in Canada has been described as being a mouse living with an elephant. It doesn't matter how nice the elephant is, it can squish you without noticing.
It's not lost on us that the elephant is becoming more dangerous, less nice, and increasingly desperate.

[Blue]

For the most part, I'm trying to have a discussion regarding a country that borders on mine, and which, due to the disparity in size, has a rather outsized effect on my country. The extreme levels of social violence in your country are very worrisome because we are, more and more, starting to see "American style" violence being committed in Canada.
We've had two mass shootings in the past couple of weeks, acts which up until recently, were almost unheard of in this country.
Living in Canada has been described as being a mouse living with an elephant. It doesn't matter how nice the elephant is, it can squish you without noticing.
It's not lost on us that the elephant is becoming more dangerous, less nice, and increasingly desperate.

It has been there, you have just swept it under the rug for 4 or 5 decades.

Manitoba task force examines 28 homicide and missing cases - Manitoba - CBC News

If you read the story, you will realize that there are more than those 28, it is just these meet the criteria of this task force.

The task force reviewed 112 cases involving male victims but only Weinbender "fit the scope of Project Devote," police said.

The task force also examined 84 cases involving women, reducing that to 27.

The initial list had been passed on from another joint-force unit that had studied cases as far back as 1926. Those were handed over to the Project Devote members in May 2011.

[Parallax]

.....we are, more and more, starting to see "American style" violence being committed in Canada.

I cannot imagine a single thing you could have posted that would give better insight into your mindset. :LOL:

In case any of you missed it in history class: Apparently, senseless murder was invented right here in the good old U.S.A.