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**boriscleto** · 08-15-2012, 01:31 PM

Originally posted by Parallax

So was he including rich black people? It's rumored that there are some.

Athletes and entertainers...They still work for rich white people. (And I include politicians as entertainers.)

I’m Not Talkin ‘Bout Rich, I’m Talkin ‘Bout Wealth

Nesster · 08-15-2012, 01:49 PM

Youtu.be

**boriscleto** · 08-15-2012, 02:05 PM

Daily Kos: Boo-effing-hoo, for the bully Mitt*Romney

ihasa · 08-15-2012, 02:23 PM

Originally posted by boriscleto

Dear Most White People: When rich white people say "We're taking America back," they don't mean you.

The "chains" statement is being taken out of context just like Obama's "You didn't build that" statement. Biden was talking about banks and how they want to get rid of even the completely inadequate Dodd-Frank protections. When he said "They want to put you back in chains" he wasn't talking about black people. He was talking about everybody but rich white people.

If he hadn't said 'y'all BACK in chains', I'd agree. In my opinion the word 'back' makes it sound like the metaphor was directed at African Americans. Maybe that's not what he intended, but with a lot of black people in the audience, he should have chosen his words more prudently.

Last edited by ihasa; 08-15-2012 at 02:35 PM.

**boriscleto** · 08-15-2012, 02:30 PM

Originally posted by ihasa

If he hadn't said 'y'all BACK in chains', I'd agree. Obviously that's a metaphor, but even so - awkward moment.

He was just trying to sound like he's from Delaware instead of Scranton, PA.

**boriscleto** · 08-15-2012, 02:38 PM

Daily Kos: Sarah Palin, John McCain say Joe Biden too mean to be on Democratic*ticket

**boriscleto** · 08-15-2012, 02:40 PM

Daily Kos: Pawlenty questions Soledad O'Brien's ability to Understand English

Parallax · 08-15-2012, 02:45 PM

Originally posted by ihasa

If he hadn't said 'y'all BACK in chains', I'd agree.

Originally posted by boriscleto

He was just trying to sound like he's from Delaware instead of Scranton, PA.

Well, then he's not very good at trying to talk southern. Anybody who is from the south, or has spent any time there knows that y'all is singular; all y'all is plural.

GeneV · 08-15-2012, 03:12 PM

Originally posted by Parallax

Well, then he's not very good at trying to talk southern. Anybody who is from the south, or has spent any time there knows that y'all is singular; all y'all is plural.

Hmm. I grew up in Texas, and my recollection is that you make the plural of "Y'all" the same way you make the plural of "deer."

**boriscleto** · 08-15-2012, 03:22 PM

From today...

Quote:

Speaking in Wytheville, Va., late this afternoon, Biden hit back at the Romney camp's claims that his comments were outrageous, saying, "If you want to know what's outrageous, it's their policies."

"The last time these guys unshackled the economy, to use their term, they put the middle class in shackles," he said. "That's how we got where we are. Nine million jobs lost, wage stagnation, 16 trillion dollars in wealth you all lost, in your home equity, in your 401ks, and your pension plans - you're the ones that got nailed. All of America except for the very few."

Biden continued: "And I'm told when I made that comment earlier today in Danville, Virginia, the Romney Campaign put out a Tweet, you know Tweets, and went on the air, went on the airwaves saying 'Biden's outrageous in saying that - I think I said, instead of unshackled, unchained or - anyway, outrageous to say that, that's what we meant. I'm using their own words. I got a message for them, if you want to know want to know what's outrageous, it's their policies, and the effects of their policies on middle class America, that's what's outrageous."

**boriscleto** · 08-15-2012, 03:23 PM

Originally posted by GeneV

Hmm. I grew up in Texas, and my recollection is that you make the plural of "Y'all" the same way you make the plural of "deer."

So would that be Y'All, Y'Alls, or Y'Allz?

Because where I'm from we say "You Guys" whether the audience is male or female.

Parallax · 08-15-2012, 03:26 PM

Originally posted by GeneV

Hmm. I grew up in Texas, and my recollection is that you make the plural of "Y'all" the same way you make the plural of "deer."

Texas isn't the South. Texas is, well, Texas!

The plural of deer around here is "dem deer."

GeneV · 08-15-2012, 03:30 PM

Originally posted by Parallax

Texas isn't the South. Texas is, well, Texas!

They think they are the South, at least from Dallas eastward.

There, the plural of deer is a good day in the blind.

GeneV · 08-15-2012, 03:32 PM

Originally posted by boriscleto

So would that be Y'All, Y'Alls, or Y'Allz?

Because where I'm from we say "You Guys" whether the audience is male or female.

No, Y'all. What do you call a deer in plural

Nesster · 08-15-2012, 06:10 PM

Originally posted by GeneV

No, Y'all. What do you call a deer in plural

does the web site say 'elk'?

08-15-2012, 02:45 PM	#23
Parallax Senior Moderator Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: South Dakota Photos: Gallery Posts: 19,332	Originally posted by ihasa If he hadn't said 'y'all BACK in chains', I'd agree. Originally posted by boriscleto He was just trying to sound like he's from Delaware instead of Scranton, PA. Well, then he's not very good at trying to talk southern. Anybody who is from the south, or has spent any time there knows that y'all is singular; all y'all is plural. Last edited by Parallax; 08-15-2012 at 02:57 PM.

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08-15-2012, 01:31 PM	#16
boriscleto Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: North Syracuse, NY Photos: Gallery Posts: 16,475	Originally posted by Parallax So was he including rich black people? It's rumored that there are some. Athletes and entertainers...They still work for rich white people. (And I include politicians as entertainers.) I’m Not Talkin ‘Bout Rich, I’m Talkin ‘Bout Wealth

08-15-2012, 02:05 PM	#18
boriscleto Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: North Syracuse, NY Photos: Gallery Posts: 16,475	Daily Kos: Boo-effing-hoo, for the bully Mitt*Romney

08-15-2012, 02:23 PM	#19
ihasa Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: West Midlands Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,066	Originally posted by boriscleto Dear Most White People: When rich white people say "We're taking America back," they don't mean you. The "chains" statement is being taken out of context just like Obama's "You didn't build that" statement. Biden was talking about banks and how they want to get rid of even the completely inadequate Dodd-Frank protections. When he said "They want to put you back in chains" he wasn't talking about black people. He was talking about everybody but rich white people. If he hadn't said 'y'all BACK in chains', I'd agree. In my opinion the word 'back' makes it sound like the metaphor was directed at African Americans. Maybe that's not what he intended, but with a lot of black people in the audience, he should have chosen his words more prudently. Last edited by ihasa; 08-15-2012 at 02:35 PM.

08-15-2012, 02:30 PM	#20
boriscleto Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: North Syracuse, NY Photos: Gallery Posts: 16,475	Originally posted by ihasa If he hadn't said 'y'all BACK in chains', I'd agree. Obviously that's a metaphor, but even so - awkward moment. He was just trying to sound like he's from Delaware instead of Scranton, PA.

08-15-2012, 02:38 PM	#21
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08-15-2012, 02:40 PM	#22
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08-15-2012, 03:12 PM	#24
GeneV Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Albuquerque NM Photos: Albums Posts: 9,830	Originally posted by Parallax Well, then he's not very good at trying to talk southern. Anybody who is from the south, or has spent any time there knows that y'all is singular; all y'all is plural. Hmm. I grew up in Texas, and my recollection is that you make the plural of "Y'all" the same way you make the plural of "deer."

08-15-2012, 03:22 PM	#25
boriscleto Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: North Syracuse, NY Photos: Gallery Posts: 16,475	From today... Quote: Speaking in Wytheville, Va., late this afternoon, Biden hit back at the Romney camp's claims that his comments were outrageous, saying, "If you want to know what's outrageous, it's their policies." "The last time these guys unshackled the economy, to use their term, they put the middle class in shackles," he said. "That's how we got where we are. Nine million jobs lost, wage stagnation, 16 trillion dollars in wealth you all lost, in your home equity, in your 401ks, and your pension plans - you're the ones that got nailed. All of America except for the very few." Biden continued: "And I'm told when I made that comment earlier today in Danville, Virginia, the Romney Campaign put out a Tweet, you know Tweets, and went on the air, went on the airwaves saying 'Biden's outrageous in saying that - I think I said, instead of unshackled, unchained or - anyway, outrageous to say that, that's what we meant. I'm using their own words. I got a message for them, if you want to know want to know what's outrageous, it's their policies, and the effects of their policies on middle class America, that's what's outrageous."

08-15-2012, 03:23 PM	#26
boriscleto Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: North Syracuse, NY Photos: Gallery Posts: 16,475	Originally posted by GeneV Hmm. I grew up in Texas, and my recollection is that you make the plural of "Y'all" the same way you make the plural of "deer." So would that be Y'All, Y'Alls, or Y'Allz? Because where I'm from we say "You Guys" whether the audience is male or female.

08-15-2012, 03:26 PM	#27
Parallax Senior Moderator Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: South Dakota Photos: Gallery Posts: 19,332	Originally posted by GeneV Hmm. I grew up in Texas, and my recollection is that you make the plural of "Y'all" the same way you make the plural of "deer." Texas isn't the South. Texas is, well, Texas! The plural of deer around here is "dem deer."

08-15-2012, 03:30 PM	#28
GeneV Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Albuquerque NM Photos: Albums Posts: 9,830	Originally posted by Parallax Texas isn't the South. Texas is, well, Texas! They think they are the South, at least from Dallas eastward. There, the plural of deer is a good day in the blind.

08-15-2012, 03:32 PM	#29
GeneV Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Albuquerque NM Photos: Albums Posts: 9,830	Originally posted by boriscleto So would that be Y'All, Y'Alls, or Y'Allz? Because where I'm from we say "You Guys" whether the audience is male or female. No, Y'all. What do you call a deer in plural

08-15-2012, 06:10 PM	#30
Nesster Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: NJ USA Photos: Gallery Posts: 13,072	Originally posted by GeneV No, Y'all. What do you call a deer in plural does the web site say 'elk'?