Originally posted by GeneV A very interesting and well-explained article followed by some of the most intelligent and well informed comments I've seen (at least the first 20 or so which were as far as I read).
hmm............I will get to that in a minute but first for our Aussie and Canadian friends:
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MilesLong1
2/21/2012 2:55 PM CST
Two things popped out at me.
1) Galbraith says that "when the government runs a surplus, it is a net saver, which means that the private sector is a net debtor. The government is, in effect, taking money from private pockets and forcing them to make that up by going deeper into debt."
To which one of his detractors responds "I have two words to answer that: Australia and Canada. If Jamie Galbraith would look them up, he would see immediate proof he’s wrong. Australia has had a long-running budget surplus now, they actually have no national debt whatsoever, they’re the fastest-growing, healthiest economy in the world. Canada, similarly, has run consistent surpluses while achieving high growth."
I looked it up. Australia and Canada's private sector debt has increased dramatically as public debt has decreased, basically proving Galbraith right.
2) MMT detractors say "When the government deficit spends, it issues bonds to be bought on the open market. If its debt load grows too large, mainstream economists say, bond purchasers will demand higher interest rates, and the government will have to pay more in interest payments, which in turn adds to the debt load" and "...the Fed would buy the bonds with money it prints, which means the money supply would increase. With it, inflation would rise, and so would the prospects of hyperinflation."
Except the article never mentions Japan which has a debt to GDP ratio somewhere near 225% but has a 0% interest rate and little or no inflation.
I'm not saying MMT is right and mainstream economics is wrong, but that the MMT detractors in this article are unwittingly proving MMT to be correct by pointing out examples they think disprove it or leaving out entirely examples that don't fit their models.
MilesLong1
2/22/2012 8:40 AM CST
Additionally, Canada and Australia run trade surpluses, meaning they may have a net inflow of money even if their governments run surpluses.
now I hope you weren't referring to this one, which always pops at first for me;
Quote: Texan7
2/23/2012 1:54 PM CST
It all comes down to a delusion that "someone else's" lunch is a free lunch.
It all comes down to inflation.
Condescendingly abstract those all you want. Gather Nobel winners and Harvard righteous pontificators all you want, and abstract away. Or get real and get Austrian.