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08-29-2012, 02:08 PM   #1
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Reality according to Ann

Ann Romney Wants Hispanic Voters To Get Past 'Their Biases' | ThinkProgress




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Ann also offered a recent trip to Puerto Rico as evidence of her ties to the Latino community: “I had the most rocking time in Puerto Rico at a political rally than I’ve ever had in my entire life. You people really know how to party. It was crazy!”
I partied in Puerto Rico so I understand "you people"....
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It really is a message that would resonate well if they could just get past some of their biases that have been there from the Democratic machines that have made us look like we don’t care about this community. And that is not true. We very much care about you and your families and the opportunities that are there for you and your families.

Hispanic voters have so far remained skeptical of Mitt Romney and the Republican Party, who stood out as the most anti-immigrant candidate during the Republican primary and touted a plan to make undocumented immigrants so uncomfortable that they would “self-deport.” He has also promised to veto the DREAM Act that would give young undocumented immigrants who came to the US as children a path to citizenship.
Ann Romney Wants Hispanic Voters To Get Past 'Their Biases' | ThinkProgress

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I wish the frigging liberal pundits would shut up after a while, there is no need to press this point beyond the obvious. That ends up turning back against us. If 100 other politicians / political spouses said 'you people really know how to party!" would we twist that too?

And of course the Republicans care about the minorities. They just rather minorities didn't get into government overly much, as that would distort the conservative America we're supposed to get back to. And, supply side economics say that once we deport all the illegals, the remaining supply of Latinos means there will be many more jobs available and better pay :P
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I wish the frigging liberal pundits would shut up after a while, there is no need to press this point beyond the obvious. That ends up turning back against us. If 100 other politicians / political spouses said 'you people really know how to party!" would we twist that too?

And of course the Republicans care about the minorities. They just rather minorities didn't get into government overly much, as that would distort the conservative America we're supposed to get back to. And, supply side economics say that once we deport all the illegals, the remaining supply of Latinos means there will be many more jobs available and better pay :P
The irony remains..........
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It really is a message that would resonate well if they could just get past some of their biases that have been there from the Democratic machines that have made us look like we don’t care about this community. And that is not true. We very much care about you and your families and the opportunities that are there for you and your families.

Hispanic voters have so far remained skeptical of Mitt Romney and the Republican Party, who stood out as the most anti-immigrant candidate during the Republican primary and touted a plan to make undocumented immigrants so uncomfortable that they would “self-deport.” He has also promised to veto the DREAM Act that would give young undocumented immigrants who came to the US as children a path to citizenship.
"you people" aside..................maybe I'm just too sensitive to "little things"..
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At the Latino Coalition luncheon, she had high praise for the first lady of Puerto Rico, Luce Fortuno, who had introduced her to the convention Tuesday night. “It was my wish that she introduce me because I felt like we are a bit of kindred spirits,” said Romney. “Luce is a great mother of sons, by the way. She has a great vitality of energy and passion for life. I recognized that in her, and we became friends for life. What she and her husband are doing on that little island is quite remarkable and you should be very proud.”
Calling someones country a "little island" even if it is a little island.........

Ann Romney, in the afterglow of her speech, takes a victory lap - latimes.com

Can't get much funnier than that.. but it will..

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It was a wonderful chance to peek into a culture, and vibrancy and energy and passion that I saw from that little island –
Sorry dudes. Ann Romney knows better what’s good for you.
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Dear Ann Romney, please condescend to us Latinos about what’s best for us!

[Latinos] are mistaken if they think they are going to be better off with Barack Obama as their president. There really is only one way for prosperity, for small business, and that is, this is the simplest way I can say this: If Mitt Romney wins, America wins.”

Please lecture us some more!

You’d better really look at your future and figure out who’s going to be the guy that’s going to make it better for you and your children, and there is only one answer.

It’s refreshing outsourcing our brains to you, rich out-of-touch lady! What else should we think?

It really is a message that would resonate well if they could just get past some of their biases that have been there from the Democratic machines that have made us look like we don’t care about this community.

Huh! I though it was the rampant racism and xenophobia in your party. Instead, it’s the Democratic machines, whatever that is. Got it! All that’s left is a fake effort to try and connect. Why don’t you give that a shot?

She stressed her immigrant roots, mentioning her grandfather who was a Welsh coalminer, aiming to connect with the Latino audience.

“I know what it’s like to be the daughter of immigrants,” she said.

You know what it’s like to live in fear of being pulled over for being brown? Of being deported to a country you never lived in? Were you denied the ability to pursue an education or serve your nation in uniform? Did you have to struggle with an unfamiliar language and culture? Did you have to deal with people disrespecting yours?

No? Then I guess maybe you don’t know what it’s like to be an immigrant, or the daughter of one. I don’t remember an entire political party focused on forcing Welsh immigrants to “self-deport” while denying their children an education. But please, rich lady, keep telling struggling Latino (and Asian) immigrants what’s best for them!

Because clearly, you think we’re too stupid to figure it out for ourselves.
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Romney's campaign has said it is aiming for 38 percent. On Tuesday, Villaraigosa estimated Democrats would get about 70 percent of Latino voters.

There is no shortage of ideas on why Romney is struggling.

In an open letter to the GOP published last week, Univision news anchor Jorge Ramos told Republicans they will lose the Hispanic vote in November and "might be condemned to lose the White House for many decades" due to positions such as Romney's opposition to legalization for undocumented immigrants and his push for self-deportation, an idea that people who are in the country illegally might leave the U.S. on their own if life is made difficult enough for them.

Ramos, who broadcasts in Spanish and is one of the most watched anchors in the United States and across Latin America, said Republicans have squandered commonalities with Hispanics, such as opposition to big government and abortion, and instead made themselves enemies of immigrants.

It's a sentiment shared by Guy Sideboard, who was born in Puerto Rico and moved to Tampa as a boy.

"As a Latino, I believe in hard work," said Sideboard, a bilingual information technician. "But there are many Latinos who don't have many opportunities, and I don't think Romney can relate to them at all."
Read more: http://latino.foxnews.com/latino/politics/2012/08/29/republican-convention-p...#ixzz24yR7dVwZ

The "little" island..........
Puerto Rico is the smallest of the Greater Antilles. It is 80% of the size of Jamaica,[135] just over 18% of the size of Hispaniola and 8% of the size of Cuba, the largest of the Greater Antilles
The United States Census Bureau estimates that the population of Puerto Rico was 3,706,690 on July 1, 2011

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They should stop trying to win over the vote, it's much more efficient to change voter laws to keep them from voting, poll tax anyone?

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QuoteOriginally posted by jeffkrol Quote
Calling someones country a "little island" even if it is a little island.........
Puerto Rico is not a country, its status is a protectorate of the USA. However, the outcome of the Nov. 6th status vote in Puerto Rico may start the process to change that status.

FTR, I don't believe PR's current status as a protectorate is sustainable. If the people of PR vote for statehood on Nov 6 it should be granted ASAP. Otherwise, PR should become an independent nation, also ASAP. The protectorate/commonwealth option should not even be on the ballot, IMO.
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Puerto Rico is not a country,
but you have to admit it is more than a quaint little island.... but I stand corrected.........
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I slipped into Ann's room after she checked out -- in the waste basket I found some crumpled up drafts of her remarks: "We love you people, you are so good with your hands. And you all have green thumbs - that's important to Mitt, you know. with his trees. That's why we care so much about you and your families..." "I have learned so much on this visit. For example, I didn't realize you people are Christian. Mitt tells me now that we let you join, some of you are even Mormons." "Mitt and I really enjoy your cuisine. He took me to Chili's once, back when we could afford only two Cadillacs. Apart from the wait, the food was delicious! Mitt had the ribs, I had a salad. And for dessert, you know how Mitt is with chocolate, there was this chocolate cake with melted chocolate in the middle. He absolutely loved it. Your people are good cooks. We welcome you to American kitchens, provided you come here legally. Mitt will make sure you can come here legally, just to get some more of that cake..."

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but you have to admit it is more than a quaint little island.... but I stand corrected.........
Well it isn't that large either it's roughly the same size as Long Island in New York But I would call it little either.
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Well it isn't that large either it's roughly the same size as Long Island in New York But I would call it little either.
Depends on what other island you want to compare it to.
Like maybe Cuba?

Total Area (sq km) Cuba 110,​860 PR13,​790

PR is a little island.
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Depends on what other island you want to compare it to.
Like maybe Cuba?

Total Area (sq km) Cuba 110,​860 PR13,​790

PR is a little island.
3 million plus little minds huh............
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Depends on what other island you want to compare it to.
Like maybe Cuba?

Total Area (sq km) Cuba 110,​860 PR13,​790

PR is a little island.
It has more people than the entire U.S. had at the time of the constitution, and if it were admitted tomorrow, it would be 29th in population out of 51. At 3,800,000 it is pretty close to the median population for U.S. states. It would fall between Mississippi and Nebraska in GDP at No. 37. In terms of population and GDP, it should be a Red State.

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It has more people than the entire U.S. had at the time of the constitution, and if it were admitted tomorrow, it would be 29th in population out of 51. At 3,800,000 it is pretty close to the median population for U.S. states.
I've been hoping they'd take statehood for awhile now. We need more blue states.
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