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09-12-2012, 12:18 PM   #31
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Dunno. Word choice does make a difference! Of course it is Ten Commandments, a selection of many, many commandments found in the Torah.

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Dunno. Word choice does make a difference! Of course it is Ten Commandments, a selection of many, many commandments found in the Torah.
sorry just a bit O/t.. only mentioned because if it is literally "thou shall not kill" then many things have been anti-commandments..
There is a discussion regarding the literal translation as thou shall not murder.. which allows wars and capital punishment ect.. just a curiosity.....
Georgia does have capital punishment..............
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Or, could it be a Liberal spoof on conservatives?
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That sight is so Poe. It's funny. When I see liberal spoofs you can usually tell they're jokes, but with the (extremist)conservative ones you can't tell. This one is not a joke, sadly; but It's still pretty hilarious.
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Thank you, Jussi

Liberalpedia is ... interesting. Not quite a mirror of Conservapedia, but working on it. Both sites seem a bit hysterical. Sigh. Such is the state of political discourse these days.

Flash: Here in Georgia a copy of The Ten Commandments has been hung in the state capitol, along with the bill of rights, etc. Will they never learn?

Americans United for Separation of Church and State is considering bringing suit, as well they should.
But these are the basis for the laws of western civilization . They do not, in any way, promote the belief in one god over another...

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Well how some worship the false god of money soooooo dearly.. it is hard to imagine anyone really pays attention to any of them...
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They do not, in any way, promote the belief in one god over another
*Ahem* ok, not 'over' but He used the term 'before'... Thou shalt have no other gods before me.
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Well how some worship the false god of money soooooo dearly.. it is hard to imagine anyone really pays attention to any of them...
But isn't that why we need to keep God on our coins?

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*Ahem* ok, not 'over' but He used the term 'before'... Thou shalt have no other gods before me.
Yeah, but nothing about any after, only a liberal socialist-fascist-pacifistic-antipatriot, who doesn't realize our nation, and Constitution, was founded on Christian principals would be offended by that. Besides these laws cover Jews, Christians, Mormons and even Muslims. That's everyone, that matters, right?
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Yeah, but nothing about any after, only a liberal socialist-fascist-pacifistic-antipatriot, who doesn't realize our nation, and Constitution, was founded on Christian principals would be offended by that. Besides these laws cover Jews, Christians, Mormons and even Muslims. That's everyone, that matters, right?
My favorite article:
Moral Minority–America’s Skeptical Founding Fathers | Britannica Blog
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Jefferson’s beliefs were very much as Mr. Ellis describes them, though Mr. Ellis did not mention, in speaking of Jefferson’s edited version of the New Testament, that the material Jefferson removed from the text was every single mention of a miraculous or supernatural event. His Jesus is a philosopher, not a god. Mr. and Mrs. Novak write of Thanksgiving Day proclamations “from Washington to Lincoln,” but Jefferson declined to declare any day of prayer or thanksgiving during his eight-year term of office, feeling that this would go against the principle of church/state separation. In old age, James Madison heartily wished that he had followed Jefferson’s lead and done the same. Madison’s Detached Memoranda, reflections on government written in retirement, make fascinating reading and have a great deal to tell us about the intentions of this “Father of the Constitution” in matters of religion and government.

The Novaks saw that we owe the First Amendment to the Baptists, but they omit to mention that the reason the Baptist leadership was so eager for religious freedom is not because they feared secularists, but because they feared the Episcopalians and the Presbyterians—powerful denominations who might infringe on the rights of minority sects. The Baptists supported the presidential campaign of Thomas Jefferson, whom they by and large considered an atheist, because they preferred an atheist president to one whom they perceived as adhering to a powerful mainline denomination.
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To argue, as the Novaks do, that Washington’s use of 102 different names for the Deity is evidence of his adherence to Christianity is a fallacy; in fact, this practice indicates that he was a Deist rather than a Christian. When he made public pronouncements, he used vague and general names like this, without specific Christian connotations, so as to include all Americans, including Jews, Muslims, and American Indians. (One of the names the Novaks do not cite is “Great Spirit,” to which Washington assured his Native American listeners that he, like them, prayed.)

The name of Jesus is very conspicuously absent from all of Washington’s papers (both public and private), statements, letters, and addresses. The Novaks say they found Jesus Christ mentioned only once (in some 35 volumes of Washington’s papers). I was not even able to find that one mention. But I did discover that Washington omitted the name of Jesus Christ from his speeches when they were written by others, and when he wrote avuncular letters of advice to his young relations he declined to discuss religious belief or practice, though he had plenty to say on the subject of morality. Not only did Washington not avail himself of a minister of religion when he lay on his deathbed, but he refused to take communion when he went to church. Even the minister at the church he attended during his presidency asserted that Washington was a Deist.
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