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magkelly · 11-06-2012, 09:37 PM

CNN has predicted it's Obama. They say he's likely got at least 274 electoral votes. It's not official as yet but it's likely they say as it's looking like he won those key states. I don't know. Call me cynical but I'm just waiting for a call to recount. It's been too close and I'm just betting something will cause them to call a recount again...

**boriscleto** · 11-06-2012, 09:45 PM

MSNBC is saying Willard isn't conceding Ohio.

magkelly · 11-06-2012, 09:50 PM

Originally posted by boriscleto

MSNBC is saying Willard isn't conceding Ohio.

Correction: CNN is saying Obama has 281 electoral votes now....

**boriscleto** · 11-06-2012, 10:01 PM

Originally posted by magkelly

Correction: CNN is saying Obama has 281 electoral votes now....

That doesn't mean Karl Rove and his army of lawyers aren't going to fight. Rove is vowing a repeat of 2000. He spent half a billion dollars to fix this election and the people who gave him that money aren't going to be happy with him.

magkelly · 11-06-2012, 10:57 PM

It's over. Romney is conceding as I type. I've got it open via Fox news in the browser. He's actually called Obama to congratulate him. Now he's thanking everyone in his campaign...

Jonathan Mac · 11-06-2012, 11:57 PM - **1 Like**

That noise you hear is the rest of the free world breathing a sigh of relief.

LightMeter · 11-07-2012, 12:00 AM

It doesn't matter who wins the election. What matters is what's going to happen in the coming years. Personally, I'm hoping for the USA to collapse. Why? Because that's the only chance The South(or Texas)has to become free from the USA and become an independent nation. It's not just The South or Texas-there are secessionist movements for other states-VT, AK, CA...I hope they all can be free someday.

magkelly · 11-07-2012, 12:07 AM

I watched both speeches. Nicely done, on both counts. Obama actually touched some issues in giving his that are going to have some of the more radical conservatives foaming at the mouth mad tomorrow I'll warrant. It was a heck of an election though. Several states definitively chose to support gay marriage. We got an openly gay senator. A couple of states said "okay" to legal pot use albeit in different ways and that acceptance speech from Obama? That totally pushed at some major boundaries. Oh and the people of FL actually used some common sense and compassion for once when it came to their voting on issues and didn't screw up the election. No recounts? :P Wow, just wow...

Jasvox · 11-07-2012, 12:34 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by LightMeter

It doesn't matter who wins the election. What matters is what's going to happen in the coming years. Personally, I'm hoping for the USA to collapse. Why? Because that's the only chance The South(or Texas)has to become free from the USA and become an independent nation. It's not just The South or Texas-there are secessionist movements for other states-VT, AK, CA...I hope they all can be free someday.

1861 is on the phone, and they say they want their ideals back.

Jason

wildman · 11-07-2012, 12:49 AM

Originally posted by LightMeter

Because that's the only chance The South(or Texas)has to become free from the USA and become an independent nation.

As far as I'm concerned all you have to do is ask.

**boriscleto** · 11-07-2012, 03:21 AM

Originally posted by LightMeter

It doesn't matter who wins the election. What matters is what's going to happen in the coming years. Personally, I'm hoping for the USA to collapse. Why? Because that's the only chance The South(or Texas)has to become free from the USA and become an independent nation. It's not just The South or Texas-there are secessionist movements for other states-VT, AK, CA...I hope they all can be free someday.

I hope for that too. So we can build a nice fence around them.

**newmikey** · 11-07-2012, 03:57 AM

Originally posted by magkelly

We got an openly gay senator.

Earthshattering, isn't it? I think I haven't heard the word combination "openly gay" around these parts for the last 40-odd years or so. Our politicians, sportsmen/women, TV personalities, businessmen/women, mayors, military, police officers either happen to be gay or not for quite some time now. (although this still seems to be an issue in some sports like soccer even today)

The terminology itself is indicative of where the US as a nation stands in 2012: "openly gay" as if being gay would be something to be ashamed of or a reason not to trust someone to do a particular job, be nice to old people or anything else. Is it thàt difficult to accept?

cardinal43 · 11-07-2012, 05:40 AM

Originally posted by newmikey

Is it thàt difficult to accept?

Sad to say, it is for a lot of people, and I just don't understand why.

GeneV · 11-07-2012, 06:32 AM

Originally posted by boriscleto

I hope for that too. So we can build a nice fence around them.

Have to find some way to get the Donald in there. South Florida would be an issue, and I'm not exactly sure NC would want to leave, despite its vote this time around.

From a geographic standpoint, the real power center for what has become of the Tea Party is Texas, my old home state. The new confederacy would probably have to have its capital in Dallas, and extend eastward, and the northern border would be the 37th parallel, rather than the Mason-Dixon line.

Honestly, the jokes about secession aside, there really is a geographic divide that seems never to have healed.

Jonathan Mac · 11-07-2012, 07:45 AM

Originally posted by Jasvox

1861 is on the phone, and they say they want their ideals back.

Jason

Ha ha ha

11-06-2012, 09:37 PM	#1
magkelly Veteran Member Join Date: May 2010 Photos: Gallery Posts: 5,901	CNN Calls it For Obama.... CNN has predicted it's Obama. They say he's likely got at least 274 electoral votes. It's not official as yet but it's likely they say as it's looking like he won those key states. I don't know. Call me cynical but I'm just waiting for a call to recount. It's been too close and I'm just betting something will cause them to call a recount again...

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11-06-2012, 09:45 PM	#2
boriscleto Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: North Syracuse, NY Photos: Gallery Posts: 16,477	MSNBC is saying Willard isn't conceding Ohio.

11-06-2012, 09:50 PM	#3
magkelly Veteran Member Join Date: May 2010 Photos: Gallery Posts: 5,901 Original Poster	Originally posted by boriscleto MSNBC is saying Willard isn't conceding Ohio. Correction: CNN is saying Obama has 281 electoral votes now....

11-06-2012, 10:01 PM	#4
boriscleto Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: North Syracuse, NY Photos: Gallery Posts: 16,477	Originally posted by magkelly Correction: CNN is saying Obama has 281 electoral votes now.... That doesn't mean Karl Rove and his army of lawyers aren't going to fight. Rove is vowing a repeat of 2000. He spent half a billion dollars to fix this election and the people who gave him that money aren't going to be happy with him.

11-06-2012, 10:57 PM	#5
magkelly Veteran Member Join Date: May 2010 Photos: Gallery Posts: 5,901 Original Poster	It's over. Romney is conceding as I type. I've got it open via Fox news in the browser. He's actually called Obama to congratulate him. Now he's thanking everyone in his campaign...

11-06-2012, 11:57 PM - 1 Like	#6
Jonathan Mac Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Madrid, Spain Posts: 10,911	That noise you hear is the rest of the free world breathing a sigh of relief.

11-07-2012, 12:00 AM	#7
LightMeter Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Houston, Republic of Texas Posts: 158	It doesn't matter who wins the election. What matters is what's going to happen in the coming years. Personally, I'm hoping for the USA to collapse. Why? Because that's the only chance The South(or Texas)has to become free from the USA and become an independent nation. It's not just The South or Texas-there are secessionist movements for other states-VT, AK, CA...I hope they all can be free someday.

11-07-2012, 12:07 AM	#8
magkelly Veteran Member Join Date: May 2010 Photos: Gallery Posts: 5,901 Original Poster	I watched both speeches. Nicely done, on both counts. Obama actually touched some issues in giving his that are going to have some of the more radical conservatives foaming at the mouth mad tomorrow I'll warrant. It was a heck of an election though. Several states definitively chose to support gay marriage. We got an openly gay senator. A couple of states said "okay" to legal pot use albeit in different ways and that acceptance speech from Obama? That totally pushed at some major boundaries. Oh and the people of FL actually used some common sense and compassion for once when it came to their voting on issues and didn't screw up the election. No recounts? :P Wow, just wow...

11-07-2012, 12:34 AM - 1 Like	#9
Jasvox Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 3,107	Originally posted by LightMeter It doesn't matter who wins the election. What matters is what's going to happen in the coming years. Personally, I'm hoping for the USA to collapse. Why? Because that's the only chance The South(or Texas)has to become free from the USA and become an independent nation. It's not just The South or Texas-there are secessionist movements for other states-VT, AK, CA...I hope they all can be free someday. 1861 is on the phone, and they say they want their ideals back. Jason

11-07-2012, 12:49 AM	#10
wildman Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Flyover America Posts: 4,469	Originally posted by LightMeter Because that's the only chance The South(or Texas)has to become free from the USA and become an independent nation. As far as I'm concerned all you have to do is ask.

11-07-2012, 03:21 AM	#11
boriscleto Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: North Syracuse, NY Photos: Gallery Posts: 16,477	Originally posted by LightMeter It doesn't matter who wins the election. What matters is what's going to happen in the coming years. Personally, I'm hoping for the USA to collapse. Why? Because that's the only chance The South(or Texas)has to become free from the USA and become an independent nation. It's not just The South or Texas-there are secessionist movements for other states-VT, AK, CA...I hope they all can be free someday. I hope for that too. So we can build a nice fence around them.

11-07-2012, 03:57 AM	#12
newmikey Site Supporter Join Date: May 2007 Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,289	Originally posted by magkelly We got an openly gay senator. Earthshattering, isn't it? I think I haven't heard the word combination "openly gay" around these parts for the last 40-odd years or so. Our politicians, sportsmen/women, TV personalities, businessmen/women, mayors, military, police officers either happen to be gay or not for quite some time now. (although this still seems to be an issue in some sports like soccer even today) The terminology itself is indicative of where the US as a nation stands in 2012: "openly gay" as if being gay would be something to be ashamed of or a reason not to trust someone to do a particular job, be nice to old people or anything else. Is it thàt difficult to accept?

11-07-2012, 05:40 AM	#13
cardinal43 Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Virginia Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,412	Originally posted by newmikey Is it thàt difficult to accept? Sad to say, it is for a lot of people, and I just don't understand why.

11-07-2012, 06:32 AM	#14
GeneV Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Albuquerque NM Photos: Albums Posts: 9,830	Originally posted by boriscleto I hope for that too. So we can build a nice fence around them. Have to find some way to get the Donald in there. South Florida would be an issue, and I'm not exactly sure NC would want to leave, despite its vote this time around. From a geographic standpoint, the real power center for what has become of the Tea Party is Texas, my old home state. The new confederacy would probably have to have its capital in Dallas, and extend eastward, and the northern border would be the 37th parallel, rather than the Mason-Dixon line. Honestly, the jokes about secession aside, there really is a geographic divide that seems never to have healed.

11-07-2012, 07:45 AM	#15
Jonathan Mac Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Madrid, Spain Posts: 10,911	Originally posted by Jasvox 1861 is on the phone, and they say they want their ideals back. Jason Ha ha ha

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