It's tough, being an Oakland Raider fan!

Dewman · 11-19-2014, 12:53 PM

It's the same thing, year after year! "They look so good on paper"! I've been a true, dyed-in-the-wool Raider fan since the day they became an official NFL team and I'll die a Raider fan, but it's sure hard to endure this horrendous losing streak they're wallowing in.

I thought for sure Reggie McKenzie could pull them back into the realm of relevance, but it isn't happening. They keep putting the ball in RB Darrin McFadden's hands and he's proven, year after year, that he's just not the talent they had hoped for. They brought in a new RB, Maurice Jones-Drew, thinking he could bolster their running attach, but he's averaging less than 2 yds. per carry. They have who is perhaps the best fullback in the NFL in Marcel Reece and yet, he sees only limited action. He can run the ball like a Mack truck, he can catch the ball and he can even throw a pretty mean pass, but for some reason, they don't use him to their best advantage.

They have three bright spots in their young, rookie QB Derek Carr, the first round draft pick, all-world linebacker Kahlil Mack and the 7th rounder, DB T.J. Carrie. Other than that, they have only a smidgen of true talent on the team.

I think they did the right thing in firing head coach Dennis Allen, but he should never have been hired in the first place. He had no "fire down below," as Bob Segar once crooned about. Tony Sperano, the interim HC, is doing an alright job, considering what he's got to work with, but it looks as if they might be only the second team in history to go 0-16.

If I'm nothing else, I'm loyal.... but it ain't easy bein' Silver & Black!

Dewman
SW Idaho, USA

Parallax · 11-19-2014, 02:18 PM

My father was a died in the wool Raiders fan too. He's probably spinning in his grave.

Their last win was Nov 17, 2013. But hey, they're in 4th place (for all time losing streaks.)

Quote:

The Raiders losing streak is currently the fourth longest in NFL history, behind the 2006-07 Dolphins (17 games), the 2008-09 Lions (19 games) and the 1976-77 Buccaneers (26 games).

**boriscleto** · 11-19-2014, 02:50 PM

NFL Issues Stern Warning Against Looking Directly At Raiders' Offense | The Onion - America's Finest News Source

Dewman · 11-19-2014, 03:13 PM

Originally posted by boriscleto

NFL Issues Stern Warning Against Looking Directly At Raiders' Offense | The Onion - America's Finest News Source

I'm a witness! It can be VERY painful!

Dewman
SW Idaho, USA

SpecialK · 11-19-2014, 04:07 PM

Originally posted by Dewman

It's the same thing, year after year!

Ah, but they are consistent!

The Chiefs, who I follow, save the disappointment until the playoffs. Perhaps that is worse?

**luftfluss** · 11-19-2014, 10:58 PM

My brother's a Raiduhs fans.

Not much worse than being mired in the morass of mediocrity that is the Miami Dolphins, however.

**Rondec** · 11-20-2014, 04:02 AM

I follow the Bengals and while they have made the playoffs a couple of times recently, they still look like a bad team. More history with Raiders -- super bowl wins, even if a long time ago.

Bengals only made the super bowl twice and last time was in 1990...

NKK · 11-20-2014, 04:32 AM

Originally posted by SpecialK

Ah, but they are consistent!

The Chiefs, who I follow, save the disappointment until the playoffs. Perhaps that is worse?

+1 it has bin hard, but last season and this one is better for sure, than most of the last 10 years

Al_Kahollick · 11-20-2014, 05:37 AM

Hmmm, This may rubbing salt into the wound but, seems they've never really recovered from the "tuck rule game" and the loss of "Chuckie"!!! I've always liked Da Raidahs, but being from the Boston area, my allegiance belongs to The Flying Elvis!

**luftfluss** · 11-20-2014, 09:28 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Al_Kahollick

Hmmm, This may rubbing salt into the wound but, seems they've never really recovered from the "tuck rule game" and the loss of "Chuckie"!!! I've always liked Da Raidahs, but being from the Boston area, my allegiance belongs to The Flying Elvis!

They've never recovered from Al Davis.

Al_Kahollick · 11-20-2014, 09:06 PM

Originally posted by luftfluss

They've never recovered from Al Davis.

Well, AL Davis run teams won THREE Super Bowls, plus this little tid bit from Wikipedia: "Under Davis' management, the Raiders became one of the most successful teams in professional sports. His motto for the team was "Just win, baby."[1] Davis was active in civil rights, refusing to allow the Raiders to play in any city where black and white players had to stay in separate hotels. He was the first NFL owner to hire an African American head coach and a female chief executive. He was also the second NFL owner to hire a Latino head coach. He remains the only executive in NFL history to be an assistant coach, head coach, general manager, commissioner and owner."

Sure, his later years were, er, tumultuous, but he was far from being a bad owner! Could've been worse, he could've been Dan Snyder!

SpecialK · 11-20-2014, 09:55 PM

Figures...it had to happen.

**luftfluss** · 11-20-2014, 10:06 PM

Originally posted by Al_Kahollick

Well, AL Davis run teams won THREE Super Bowls, plus this little tid bit from Wikipedia: "Under Davis' management, the Raiders became one of the most successful teams in professional sports. His motto for the team was "Just win, baby."[1] Davis was active in civil rights, refusing to allow the Raiders to play in any city where black and white players had to stay in separate hotels. He was the first NFL owner to hire an African American head coach and a female chief executive. He was also the second NFL owner to hire a Latino head coach. He remains the only executive in NFL history to be an assistant coach, head coach, general manager, commissioner and owner."

Sure, his later years were, er, tumultuous, but he was far from being a bad owner! Could've been worse, he could've been Dan Snyder!

Hey, they won!!!

No doubt Al was one of the great football minds the game has ever seen. But there is an entire generation of fans that only know him as the man who wrecked the Raiders through a combination of greed, hubris and possibly dementia. He demeaned the great Marcus Allen. He fired a brilliant young head coach named Mike Shanahan. He alienated John Gruden.

Endings for legendary figures in the game are often sloppy, bitter affairs - look at Shula, Landry, Noll. But because Al was the owner, de facto GM and Head Coach of the Head Coach, it was worse.

Al Davis leaves a convoluted legacy, for sure.

One of my favorite Al anecdotes is when the Dolphins were at Oakland - it was the Sea of Hands game, when Oakland broke the Fins' winning streak. At halftime, Shula was convinced Al had bugged the locker room. So he started screaming at the walls, "Al I know you can hear me!"

Dolphins scored late to take the lead, but left Ken Stabler too much time and he threw a pass to the backup TE through a "sea of hands".

Al_Kahollick · 11-21-2014, 05:11 AM

Originally posted by luftfluss

Hey, they won!!!

No doubt Al was one of the great football minds the game has ever seen. But there is an entire generation of fans that only know him as the man who wrecked the Raiders through a combination of greed, hubris and possibly dementia. He demeaned the great Marcus Allen. He fired a brilliant young head coach named Mike Shanahan. He alienated John Gruden.

Endings for legendary figures in the game are often sloppy, bitter affairs - look at Shula, Landry, Noll. But because Al was the owner, de facto GM and Head Coach of the Head Coach, it was worse.

Al Davis leaves a convoluted legacy, for sure.

One of my favorite Al anecdotes is when the Dolphins were at Oakland - it was the Sea of Hands game, when Oakland broke the Fins' winning streak. At halftime, Shula was convinced Al had bugged the locker room. So he started screaming at the walls, "Al I know you can hear me!"

Dolphins scored late to take the lead, but left Ken Stabler too much time and he threw a pass to the backup TE through a "sea of hands".

Geez, even Bill Belichick was fired, by Cleveland! Shanahan wasn't quite a "brilliant young coach" when he was in Oakland: "Shanahan's final Raiders record was 8–12 in less than two seasons, going 2–7 after a 6–5 start." The players (and some of his other coaches) in Oakland hated him! In Fact, after his time in Denver, he was a bust again.

reeftool · 11-21-2014, 08:52 AM

It's tough being a Raiders fan but I'm almost embarrassed to wear my Giants sweatshirt this year.

11-19-2014, 12:53 PM	#1
Dewman Veteran Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Idaho Posts: 5,492	It's tough, being an Oakland Raider fan! It's the same thing, year after year! "They look so good on paper"! I've been a true, dyed-in-the-wool Raider fan since the day they became an official NFL team and I'll die a Raider fan, but it's sure hard to endure this horrendous losing streak they're wallowing in. I thought for sure Reggie McKenzie could pull them back into the realm of relevance, but it isn't happening. They keep putting the ball in RB Darrin McFadden's hands and he's proven, year after year, that he's just not the talent they had hoped for. They brought in a new RB, Maurice Jones-Drew, thinking he could bolster their running attach, but he's averaging less than 2 yds. per carry. They have who is perhaps the best fullback in the NFL in Marcel Reece and yet, he sees only limited action. He can run the ball like a Mack truck, he can catch the ball and he can even throw a pretty mean pass, but for some reason, they don't use him to their best advantage. They have three bright spots in their young, rookie QB Derek Carr, the first round draft pick, all-world linebacker Kahlil Mack and the 7th rounder, DB T.J. Carrie. Other than that, they have only a smidgen of true talent on the team. I think they did the right thing in firing head coach Dennis Allen, but he should never have been hired in the first place. He had no "fire down below," as Bob Segar once crooned about. Tony Sperano, the interim HC, is doing an alright job, considering what he's got to work with, but it looks as if they might be only the second team in history to go 0-16. If I'm nothing else, I'm loyal.... but it ain't easy bein' Silver & Black! Dewman SW Idaho, USA

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Dewman Veteran Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Idaho Posts: 5,492 Original Poster	Originally posted by boriscleto NFL Issues Stern Warning Against Looking Directly At Raiders' Offense \| The Onion - America's Finest News Source I'm a witness! It can be VERY painful! Dewman SW Idaho, USA

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SpecialK Pentaxian Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: So California Photos: Gallery Posts: 16,481	Originally posted by Dewman It's the same thing, year after year! Ah, but they are consistent! The Chiefs, who I follow, save the disappointment until the playoffs. Perhaps that is worse?

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luftfluss Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: NJ Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 11,619	My brother's a Raiduhs fans. Not much worse than being mired in the morass of mediocrity that is the Miami Dolphins, however.

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Rondec Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Gladys, Virginia Photos: Gallery Posts: 27,653	I follow the Bengals and while they have made the playoffs a couple of times recently, they still look like a bad team. More history with Raiders -- super bowl wins, even if a long time ago. Bengals only made the super bowl twice and last time was in 1990...

11-20-2014, 04:32 AM	#8
NKK Inactive Account Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Malmö, Sweden Photos: Gallery Posts: 583	Originally posted by SpecialK Ah, but they are consistent! The Chiefs, who I follow, save the disappointment until the playoffs. Perhaps that is worse? +1 it has bin hard, but last season and this one is better for sure, than most of the last 10 years

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Al_Kahollick Banned Join Date: Feb 2013 Posts: 390	Hmmm, This may rubbing salt into the wound but, seems they've never really recovered from the "tuck rule game" and the loss of "Chuckie"!!! I've always liked Da Raidahs, but being from the Boston area, my allegiance belongs to The Flying Elvis!

11-20-2014, 09:28 AM - 1 Like	#10
luftfluss Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: NJ Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 11,619	Originally posted by Al_Kahollick Hmmm, This may rubbing salt into the wound but, seems they've never really recovered from the "tuck rule game" and the loss of "Chuckie"!!! I've always liked Da Raidahs, but being from the Boston area, my allegiance belongs to The Flying Elvis! They've never recovered from Al Davis.

11-20-2014, 09:06 PM	#11
Al_Kahollick Banned Join Date: Feb 2013 Posts: 390	Originally posted by luftfluss They've never recovered from Al Davis. Well, AL Davis run teams won THREE Super Bowls, plus this little tid bit from Wikipedia: "Under Davis' management, the Raiders became one of the most successful teams in professional sports. His motto for the team was "Just win, baby."[1] Davis was active in civil rights, refusing to allow the Raiders to play in any city where black and white players had to stay in separate hotels. He was the first NFL owner to hire an African American head coach and a female chief executive. He was also the second NFL owner to hire a Latino head coach. He remains the only executive in NFL history to be an assistant coach, head coach, general manager, commissioner and owner." Sure, his later years were, er, tumultuous, but he was far from being a bad owner! Could've been worse, he could've been Dan Snyder!

11-20-2014, 09:55 PM	#12
SpecialK Pentaxian Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: So California Photos: Gallery Posts: 16,481	Figures...it had to happen.

11-20-2014, 10:06 PM	#13
luftfluss Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: NJ Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 11,619	Originally posted by Al_Kahollick Well, AL Davis run teams won THREE Super Bowls, plus this little tid bit from Wikipedia: "Under Davis' management, the Raiders became one of the most successful teams in professional sports. His motto for the team was "Just win, baby."[1] Davis was active in civil rights, refusing to allow the Raiders to play in any city where black and white players had to stay in separate hotels. He was the first NFL owner to hire an African American head coach and a female chief executive. He was also the second NFL owner to hire a Latino head coach. He remains the only executive in NFL history to be an assistant coach, head coach, general manager, commissioner and owner." Sure, his later years were, er, tumultuous, but he was far from being a bad owner! Could've been worse, he could've been Dan Snyder! Hey, they won!!! No doubt Al was one of the great football minds the game has ever seen. But there is an entire generation of fans that only know him as the man who wrecked the Raiders through a combination of greed, hubris and possibly dementia. He demeaned the great Marcus Allen. He fired a brilliant young head coach named Mike Shanahan. He alienated John Gruden. Endings for legendary figures in the game are often sloppy, bitter affairs - look at Shula, Landry, Noll. But because Al was the owner, de facto GM and Head Coach of the Head Coach, it was worse. Al Davis leaves a convoluted legacy, for sure. One of my favorite Al anecdotes is when the Dolphins were at Oakland - it was the Sea of Hands game, when Oakland broke the Fins' winning streak. At halftime, Shula was convinced Al had bugged the locker room. So he started screaming at the walls, "Al I know you can hear me!" Dolphins scored late to take the lead, but left Ken Stabler too much time and he threw a pass to the backup TE through a "sea of hands".

11-21-2014, 05:11 AM	#14
Al_Kahollick Banned Join Date: Feb 2013 Posts: 390	Originally posted by luftfluss Hey, they won!!! No doubt Al was one of the great football minds the game has ever seen. But there is an entire generation of fans that only know him as the man who wrecked the Raiders through a combination of greed, hubris and possibly dementia. He demeaned the great Marcus Allen. He fired a brilliant young head coach named Mike Shanahan. He alienated John Gruden. Endings for legendary figures in the game are often sloppy, bitter affairs - look at Shula, Landry, Noll. But because Al was the owner, de facto GM and Head Coach of the Head Coach, it was worse. Al Davis leaves a convoluted legacy, for sure. One of my favorite Al anecdotes is when the Dolphins were at Oakland - it was the Sea of Hands game, when Oakland broke the Fins' winning streak. At halftime, Shula was convinced Al had bugged the locker room. So he started screaming at the walls, "Al I know you can hear me!" Dolphins scored late to take the lead, but left Ken Stabler too much time and he threw a pass to the backup TE through a "sea of hands". Geez, even Bill Belichick was fired, by Cleveland! Shanahan wasn't quite a "brilliant young coach" when he was in Oakland: "Shanahan's final Raiders record was 8–12 in less than two seasons, going 2–7 after a 6–5 start." The players (and some of his other coaches) in Oakland hated him! In Fact, after his time in Denver, he was a bust again.

11-21-2014, 08:52 AM	#15
reeftool Pentaxian Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Upstate New York Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 9,554	It's tough being a Raiders fan but I'm almost embarrassed to wear my Giants sweatshirt this year.