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Matjazz · 05-21-2008, 07:26 AM

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I just left feedback to a seller and a pop up on eBay informed me that: I no longer have to be afraid of negative feedback from sellers because they can't give neutral or negative feedback to buyers. So I should leave honest feedback whatever it is.

It's been more than once that I got neutral only after I left neutral.

Ed in GA · 05-21-2008, 08:02 AM

Originally posted by Matjazz

I just left feedback to a seller and a pop up on eBay informed me that: I no longer have to be afraid of negative feedback from sellers because they can't give neutral or negative feedback to buyers. So I should leave honest feedback whatever it is.

It's been more than once that I got neutral only after I left neutral.

That's a policy change for which I completely disagree.

What this is going to cause is that neither party will be willing to post feedback or negative feedback will be used as a tool with which the buyer can manipulate the seller.

Bad idea.

Jodokast96 · 05-21-2008, 08:03 AM

And what does that solve? So now every buyer is a good person to deal with? What horse crap. I've seen an ever increasing number of honest sellers getting ripped off over the last year, and they've just added to the problem.

BPT · 05-21-2008, 01:50 PM

In other words their buyer feedback is completely irrelevant.

Tom S. · 05-21-2008, 02:01 PM

Originally posted by Ed in GA

That's a policy change for which I completely disagree.

What this is going to cause is that neither party will be willing to post feedback or negative feedback will be used as a tool with which the buyer can manipulate the seller.

Bad idea.

Yet what you state has been used by sellers against buyers since the inception of ebay. I have refused to leave feed back on negative experiences in order to keep my feedback record clean from vindictive sellers.

I even had one seller refuse to give me a refund until I left positive feedback for him and ebay was no help what so ever.

MRRiley · 05-21-2008, 04:38 PM

Originally posted by Tom S.

Yet what you state has been used by sellers against buyers since the inception of ebay. I have refused to leave feed back on negative experiences in order to keep my feedback record clean from vindictive sellers.

I even had one seller refuse to give me a refund until I left positive feedback for him and ebay was no help what so ever.

Very true Tom.... and the odds have always been in the favor of the unscrupulous sellers. When a seller did get a negative feedback, it was one rating among thousands. A big seller could have hundreds of bad ratings and still have a 99% positive rating. But most buyers take a huge hit if they get even one negative feedback.

I do think the sellers need a way to ID deadbeats and cheats, but the previous situation was very unbalanced. Hopefully this is just the first step toward a better ebay.

konraDarnok · 05-21-2008, 05:27 PM

Ebay just keeps getting worse. I use it less and less -- and as it becomes more hostile to average people selling stuff they no longer need, it keeps getting filled with people that use it as a store front to hock junk they know nothing about. But whatever.

skaktuss · 05-21-2008, 10:36 PM

Offtopic:

Just found a realy funny ebay feedback.

little laker · 05-21-2008, 10:51 PM

Originally posted by skaktuss

Offtopic:

Just found a realy funny ebay feedback.

The image appears to be in accessible through your link, but this one should work

Pentaxtic · 05-22-2008, 01:59 AM

Hahahaha hahahahhaha

That is really a funny "WTF" feedback!

Thanks skaktuss.

J.Scott · 05-22-2008, 03:21 AM

Ebay must have changed other rules around feedback, too. They used to only count positive feedback once from a seller even if you did repeat purchases and received positive feedback. My score jumped up suddenly from 51 to 57 and I hadn't made any purchases lately.

Ed in GA · 05-22-2008, 04:49 AM

Originally posted by J.Scott

Ebay must have changed other rules around feedback, too. They used to only count positive feedback once from a seller even if you did repeat purchases and received positive feedback. My score jumped up suddenly from 51 to 57 and I hadn't made any purchases lately.

Yep, here's the link.

Feedback Changes Going Into Effect Today

attack11 · 05-22-2008, 05:58 AM

i'm glad for those changes. i had a few sellers that screwed me turn around and f'up my rating. got all my points now and a new color star heh.

jsherman999 · 05-22-2008, 06:48 AM

I have to say it's a welcome change.

**rparmar** · 05-22-2008, 07:04 AM

This change totally makes sense. All the advantages are with the seller anyway. They have the money whether they deliver the good or not. And they can insist on instant payment. How many crap buyers are there in proportion to crap sellers?

05-21-2008, 07:26 AM	#1
Matjazz Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: EU/Slovenia Photos: Gallery Posts: 774	eBay: no more feedback revenge Staff note: This post may contain affiliate links, which means Pentax Forums may earn a small commission if a visitor clicks through and makes a purchase. If you would like to support the forum directly, you may also make a donation here. I just left feedback to a seller and a pop up on eBay informed me that: I no longer have to be afraid of negative feedback from sellers because they can't give neutral or negative feedback to buyers. So I should leave honest feedback whatever it is. It's been more than once that I got neutral only after I left neutral.

05-21-2008, 08:02 AM	#2
Ed in GA Guest	Originally posted by Matjazz I just left feedback to a seller and a pop up on eBay informed me that: I no longer have to be afraid of negative feedback from sellers because they can't give neutral or negative feedback to buyers. So I should leave honest feedback whatever it is. It's been more than once that I got neutral only after I left neutral. That's a policy change for which I completely disagree. What this is going to cause is that neither party will be willing to post feedback or negative feedback will be used as a tool with which the buyer can manipulate the seller. Bad idea. Last edited by Ed in GA; 05-21-2008 at 08:21 AM.

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05-21-2008, 08:03 AM	#3
Jodokast96 Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Erial, NJ USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,134	And what does that solve? So now every buyer is a good person to deal with? What horse crap. I've seen an ever increasing number of honest sellers getting ripped off over the last year, and they've just added to the problem.

05-21-2008, 01:50 PM	#4
BPT Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Fruitvale, British Columbia Canada Photos: Gallery Posts: 310	In other words their buyer feedback is completely irrelevant.

05-21-2008, 02:01 PM	#5
Tom S. Veteran Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: S.E. Michigan Photos: Albums Posts: 4,317	Originally posted by Ed in GA That's a policy change for which I completely disagree. What this is going to cause is that neither party will be willing to post feedback or negative feedback will be used as a tool with which the buyer can manipulate the seller. Bad idea. Yet what you state has been used by sellers against buyers since the inception of ebay. I have refused to leave feed back on negative experiences in order to keep my feedback record clean from vindictive sellers. I even had one seller refuse to give me a refund until I left positive feedback for him and ebay was no help what so ever.

05-21-2008, 04:38 PM	#6
MRRiley Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Sterling, VA, USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 6,275	Originally posted by Tom S. Yet what you state has been used by sellers against buyers since the inception of ebay. I have refused to leave feed back on negative experiences in order to keep my feedback record clean from vindictive sellers. I even had one seller refuse to give me a refund until I left positive feedback for him and ebay was no help what so ever. Very true Tom.... and the odds have always been in the favor of the unscrupulous sellers. When a seller did get a negative feedback, it was one rating among thousands. A big seller could have hundreds of bad ratings and still have a 99% positive rating. But most buyers take a huge hit if they get even one negative feedback. I do think the sellers need a way to ID deadbeats and cheats, but the previous situation was very unbalanced. Hopefully this is just the first step toward a better ebay.

05-21-2008, 05:27 PM	#7
konraDarnok Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Photos: Albums Posts: 969	Ebay just keeps getting worse. I use it less and less -- and as it becomes more hostile to average people selling stuff they no longer need, it keeps getting filled with people that use it as a store front to hock junk they know nothing about. But whatever.

05-21-2008, 10:36 PM	#8
skaktuss Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Latvia Photos: Gallery Posts: 259	Offtopic: Just found a realy funny ebay feedback.

05-21-2008, 10:51 PM	#9
little laker Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Photos: Gallery Posts: 5,697	Originally posted by skaktuss Offtopic: Just found a realy funny ebay feedback. The image appears to be in accessible through your link, but this one should work

05-22-2008, 01:59 AM	#10
Pentaxtic Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Vancouver Photos: Gallery Posts: 417	Hahahaha hahahahhaha That is really a funny "WTF" feedback! Thanks skaktuss.

05-22-2008, 03:21 AM	#11
J.Scott Inactive Account Join Date: Mar 2007 Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,675	Ebay must have changed other rules around feedback, too. They used to only count positive feedback once from a seller even if you did repeat purchases and received positive feedback. My score jumped up suddenly from 51 to 57 and I hadn't made any purchases lately.

05-22-2008, 04:49 AM	#12
Ed in GA Guest	Originally posted by J.Scott Ebay must have changed other rules around feedback, too. They used to only count positive feedback once from a seller even if you did repeat purchases and received positive feedback. My score jumped up suddenly from 51 to 57 and I hadn't made any purchases lately. Yep, here's the link. Feedback Changes Going Into Effect Today

05-22-2008, 05:58 AM	#13
attack11 Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Ottawa, ON - Canada Photos: Gallery Posts: 658	i'm glad for those changes. i had a few sellers that screwed me turn around and f'up my rating. got all my points now and a new color star heh.

05-22-2008, 06:48 AM	#14
jsherman999 Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Photos: Gallery Posts: 8,237	I have to say it's a welcome change.

05-22-2008, 07:04 AM	#15
rparmar Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2008 Photos: Gallery Posts: 8,823	This change totally makes sense. All the advantages are with the seller anyway. They have the money whether they deliver the good or not. And they can insist on instant payment. How many crap buyers are there in proportion to crap sellers?

eBay: no more feedback revenge

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