[wtlwdwgn]

What size tires are on your Fozzy? I noticed that the newer ones have larger diameter wheels (17 or 18 in) which make for thinner sidewalls and a harder, bumpier ride especially on rough surfaces. My daughter's 2011 has 16 inch wheels and I had the most comfortable long trip driving it from Billings to San Antonio.

[WPRESTO]

What size tires are on your Fozzy? I noticed that the newer ones have larger diameter wheels (17 or 18 in) which make for thinner sidewalls and a harder, bumpier ride especially on rough surfaces. My daughter's 2011 has 16 inch wheels and I had the most comfortable long trip driving it from Billings to San Antonio.

I believe that my '14 Forester has 17" wheels (some trims have 18"), and the '01 had 16". That was another point of annoyance. Second winter of owning the '01 I purchased a second set of wheels to simplify changeover from "all season" to real snow tires. One winter before trading in I had replaced the original snows with a set Michelin X-Ice tires. SO those had only one winter's use, and together with the wheels became useless. Still trying to find a buyer so those wheels & tires won't be a complete loss. BTW: I checked, by researching, to see if 16" wheels could be used on 2014 Forester. Seems the brakes are larger, and although the 16" rims fit, the clearance is extremely small, too close to trust.

[wtlwdwgn]

I believe that my '14 Forester has 17" wheels (some trims have 18"), and the '01 had 16". That was another point of annoyance. Second winter of owning the '01 I purchased a second set of wheels to simplify changeover from "all season" to real snow tires. One winter before trading in I had replaced the original snows with a set Michelin X-Ice tires. SO those had only one winter's use, and together with the wheels became useless. Still trying to find a buyer so those wheels & tires won't be a complete loss. BTW: I checked, by researching, to see if 16" wheels could be used on 2014 Forester. Seems the brakes are larger, and although the 16" rims fit, the clearance is extremely small, too close to trust.

I checked Tire Rack's website and they list 16 inch wheels for the 2014 Fozzy including some steel wheels. I have these for winter tires on my Saabaru Aero with the big brakes. You might call them and check. Just my $0.02.

[condor27596]

Mazda 3 is the Honda Civic of a couple decades ago.

Honda lost its way. Mazda picked up the trail.

[kadajawi]

I had foolishly assumed the new Forester would ride at least as well as the original. No such luck. It's a shame that high-end Citroens are no longer competitive in the American market. In terms of a comfortable ride, they shame all other manufacturers - Mercedes, Rolls, Bently, Aston Martin, Jaguar, Maserati - every one of them.

Some college friends and I went to look at the original Mustang when it very first arrived in a nearby show room. We were interested to see what all the advertising hype was about. As we looked over the car, we were laughing ourselves silly: look under the hood, it was identical to John's Falcon; the dashboard was identical to John's Falcon, the front seating was identical to John's Falcon, the windshield was Falcon; the wheels were Falcon; etc. etc.. As best we could tell, it was a Falcon with a longer hood and consequently an impossibly shrunken, cramped rear seat. We could not believe that American car buyers would be duped by such a transparent "it's all in the looks" gimmick - - but they were. However, In fairness, the Mustang evolved into something different and more exciting, for those who buy a car for excitement or to impress others or themselves.

I'm not sure if I would have gotten a Mustang if I could have, back then (wasn't alive), but looks can matter. Though I am more attracted to the Challenger and Charger.

Citroen pretty much stopped making those large comfortable cars. The C5 is only in Exclusive trim (the most expensive) equipped with Hydractive. The lesser ones have a conventional setup. The C6 was cancelled. The DS5 feels luxurious inside and looks great, the size is there too, but it is based on a compact hatch and compact MPV, and rides on a conventional suspension setup, that at least prior to the facelift was stiff! After lots of complaints it seems like they changed it. An uncomfortable big Citroen is like a truck that can't carry stuff at the back. It misses the point.

From what I read recently when Citroen said they are going to phase out Hydractive to cut cost, they still have to continue to make it for Rolls Royce. I thought since BMW took over RR isn't using it anymore. Maybe the journalist imagined things, maybe BMW went back to Citroen. In any case Citroen continued to babble about how they are continuing to make comfortable cars, and how you don't need Hyperactive anymore to make a comfortable riding car. That may be true, but to make one that also goes around corners?! The Xantia Activa wasn't just comfortable, it could outhandle a Lotus!

[monochrome]

Oops, yeah make that a Delta 88. Not quite the right tool or the job!

We can laugh about SUV's in cities, and Delta 88's, but my father drove one of these:



Two doors. Red and White (my school colors ). IIRC it was 455 cu. in. but 'only' 250 net hp with emissions gear attached.

Gaahhh!

[Ratmagiclady]

Two cars

two Chrysler POS's (Duster and Aspen station wagon) purchased from my father/brother-inlaw the Duster was known as the "Green t*rd" and the Station wagon was the "brown t*rd" Sold both of them to really stupid people - less than $100 for both.


The Elitist - formerly known as PDL

Hey, if you're ever looking for someone 'stupid' enough to buy a 100 dollar Duster again, give me a ring. I rather liked the view.



(Pardon the cheesy effects, I'd been rather hastily covering up a poor scan of a machine print. )

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[Sailor]

. . . . . . . . . . . . (Also dat's a pretty Bmer, Sailor. )

Hey, RML, thanks much.

Jer

Nice Beemer, nice Porsche. . . . . . . . . . .

I appreciate the kind words. I enjoy them both, very much.

Jer

[lammie200]

We can laugh about SUV's in cities, and Delta 88's, but my father drove one of these:



Two doors. Red and White (my school colors ). IIRC it was 455 cu. in. but 'only' 250 net hp with emissions gear attached.

Gaahhh!

My dad had a dark blue metallic one with a white vinyl roof. I think that it had a blue plush interior. He ordered it from the factory and it was propably the same model year as the one in your pic. Pretty sweet once he got the carb jets sorted.

[dstar]

I have Honda Ridgeline from day one. Now almost 110000 No any problem .Working house as my Pentax .
Just one big expense after 100000 as main engine services Travel all time forest mountains desert very much off the road
Weather proof as my camera��
Just add new tires from Bridgestone very smooth quite save mileage
I hope new Ridgeline coming soon

[wtlwdwgn]

I have Honda Ridgeline from day one. Now almost 110000 No any problem .Working house as my Pentax .
Just one big expense after 100000 as main engine services Travel all time forest mountains desert very much off the road
Weather proof as my camera��
Just add new tires from Bridgestone very smooth quite save mileage
I hope new Ridgeline coming soon

What kind of gas mileage do you get? I've always thought those would be great for back country roads.

[dstar]

Well in town generally 18-19
HWY almost 22-25
Low grade gas 86
Today after drive with new tires almost week I noted
Even plus 1-2 m more per gallon
Plus extra smooth and quite drive
I loved R low maintenance just oil and gas
Plus air conditioner coverage back seat separately so my dog happy
As you know R has huge trunk inside bed safe a lot space

[wtlwdwgn]

Thanks for the info.

[monochrome]

I hope new Ridgeline coming soon

Given there's a new Pilot



I expect a new Ridgeline.

[wildman]

Got to put in a plug for my wife's 2002 Buick Park Ave.

Other than normal brakes, tires, oil change (Mobil 1) etc not a lick of trouble out of it in 220,000 miles.
The perfect car for someone who doesn't give a damn about cars and the "driving experience" - just get in it and go where you want to go.
It's a living room on wheels. Tomb like silence, superb seats, air and heater quiet and effective, and mileage not all that bad considering it's size.
Superb freeway cruiser - put it in cruise control at 80 mph, put in a music CD (which you can actually hear well because it's so damn quiet) and just drive it until the next gas stop.
Perfect for someone for whom cars hold no special mystique. Classic old school American iron.

I drive a 2011 Nissan Versa. It's OK nothing special it gets the job done so far. Did have to get the Air conditioner core replaced under warranty at about 30000 miles.