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**luftfluss** · 11-21-2015, 02:50 PM

Originally posted by csa

I will be using a backup external drive, so how about this one?

CyberpowerPC Desktop Computer Gamer Xtreme S100 Intel Core i5 6500 (3.20 GHz) 4 GB DDR4 1 TB HDD Windows 10 Home 64-Bit - Newegg.com

The Intel i5-6500 in this one is significantly faster than the AMD FX-6300 specified in your OP, so that is a huge plus. The NVIDIA GeForce GT 720 is not as good as the Radeon R7 360, but that shouldn't matter too much unless you play more than casual games; and anyway, it's easy to install a newer, better graphics card at a later date. The biggest downfall I see in this system is the 4GB RAM is not much these days, but you could always upgrade that later on, too.

What do you think your max budget will be when the time comes?

**csa** · 11-21-2015, 04:17 PM

Between $500-$600. I don't play any games, outside of Solitaire

bertwert · 11-21-2015, 05:50 PM

Pretty much what luftluss said.

If I were you I'd get something with at least:
3 Ghz processor
4 cores
8gb ram
128 gb ssd - to put OS on, move your old hard drive to new computer.
USB 3 ports
DVD drive

Outis · 11-21-2015, 06:42 PM

Originally posted by csa

Yes, the keyboard on my Netbook is terrible!

Yeah. I went down to the Microcenter today and tried out keyboards, and the Lenovos, which I'd always heard were great were terrible. Ditto most of the Dells, and pretty much everyone else. I'm probably goign to go with Alienware just because they have a keyboard that's not awful.

dansamy · 11-21-2015, 06:56 PM

Did you try the Asus ROG line? Or an MSI gaming laptop? You might find that gaming laptop keyboards give you more of the feel you desire.

nikigunn · 11-21-2015, 07:17 PM

I agree with the others -- if you have an external HD, get USB 3.0. I notice the difference.

Originally posted by Outis

I'm probably goign to go with Alienware just because they have a keyboard that's not awful.

I have a love/hate thing with my Alienware laptop. I think I have a bad sector in the RAID array which gets annoying, but otherwise I really like it. I love the lighted keyboard, I like how it feels, and this one has the 10-key. My previous laptop had lights in the keyboard too, but this one can be color customized. When I got it, they had the lights on the chassis all going and I turned most of them off. I just keep the power button (set it to change from green when plugged in to purple when on battery power) and keyboard lights on. I don't need it to look like a UFO just landed.

**Ex Finn.** · 11-21-2015, 08:22 PM

Originally posted by csa

I will be using a backup external drive, so how about this one?

CyberpowerPC Desktop Computer Gamer Xtreme S100 Intel Core i5 6500 (3.20 GHz) 4 GB DDR4 1 TB HDD Windows 10 Home 64-Bit - Newegg.com

Looks pretty good. 4 gigs of memory is fine if you only use old 32 bit programs. I think 8 gigs is a bare minimum, 16 would leave some wiggle room.
Maybe some real computer expert can chime in.
edit: I am 5 hours late, that`s what I get for responding to "posts quoted"

Last edited by Ex Finn.; 11-21-2015 at 08:30 PM.

Outis · 11-21-2015, 08:29 PM

Originally posted by nikigunn

My previous laptop had lights in the keyboard too, but this one can be color customized. When I got it, they had the lights on the chassis all going and I turned most of them off. I just keep the power button (set it to change from green when plugged in to purple when on battery power) and keyboard lights on. I don't need it to look like a UFO just landed.

You should get it a K-S1 and they could be buddies!

**csa** · 11-21-2015, 09:11 PM

Originally posted by Ex Finn.

Looks pretty good. 4 gigs of memory is fine if you only use old 32 bit programs. I think 8 gigs is a bare minimum, 16 would leave some wiggle room.
Maybe some real computer expert can chime in.
edit: I am 5 hours late, that`s what I get for responding to "posts quoted"

I could add memory to this one. I think this (2nd link) would fit my needs very well; considering what I've been using since 2009!

**Canada_Rockies** · 11-21-2015, 09:27 PM - **1 Like**

Put more memory in it. My wife's computer has 4 Gb RAM and runs Lightroom 6 noticeably slower than my laptop with 8 Gb RAM. Have them install it before shipping. If you install it, and something isn't right, the response may not be all you desire.

**luftfluss** · 11-21-2015, 09:36 PM

Originally posted by csa

I could add memory to this one. I think this (2nd link) would fit my needs very well; considering what I've been using since 2009!

I really would go for the best CPU, like in your 2nd link. Look at it this way: that Intel CPU can process data up to about 50% faster than the AMD FX-6300 specified in your 1st link. And it's a heckuva lot easier to upgrade RAM in the future than the CPU, so the potential longevity of the "Gamer Xtreme S100" is greater.

**csa** · 11-21-2015, 09:59 PM

Yes, I was talking about the second one I linked to. I think it will be a good unit for me.

**Ex Finn.** · 11-21-2015, 10:08 PM

Originally posted by csa

Yes, I was talking about the second one I linked to. I think it will be a good unit for me.

Within your budget, it does look pretty good. Just needs little more memory. IMO

**csa** · 11-22-2015, 07:44 AM

Originally posted by Canada_Rockies

Put more memory in it. My wife's computer has 4 Gb RAM and runs Lightroom 6 noticeably slower than my laptop with 8 Gb RAM. Have them install it before shipping. If you install it, and something isn't right, the response may not be all you desire.

I would have to contact NewEgg; don't know whether they offer this service or not. However, I have added more memory to my present computer in the past, & it was easy; just made sure not to have static electricity before touching inside.

bertwert · 11-22-2015, 08:44 AM

Originally posted by csa

I have added more memory to my present computer in the past, & it was easy

I thought you said you new nothing about computers...

If you get the second computer, you can just pop 4gbs of RAM in and it will run nicer / quicker.

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11-21-2015, 02:50 PM	#16
luftfluss Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: NJ Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 11,629	Originally posted by csa I will be using a backup external drive, so how about this one? CyberpowerPC Desktop Computer Gamer Xtreme S100 Intel Core i5 6500 (3.20 GHz) 4 GB DDR4 1 TB HDD Windows 10 Home 64-Bit - Newegg.com The Intel i5-6500 in this one is significantly faster than the AMD FX-6300 specified in your OP, so that is a huge plus. The NVIDIA GeForce GT 720 is not as good as the Radeon R7 360, but that shouldn't matter too much unless you play more than casual games; and anyway, it's easy to install a newer, better graphics card at a later date. The biggest downfall I see in this system is the 4GB RAM is not much these days, but you could always upgrade that later on, too. What do you think your max budget will be when the time comes?

11-21-2015, 04:17 PM	#17
csa Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Montana mountains Posts: 10,133 Original Poster	Between $500-$600. I don't play any games, outside of Solitaire

11-21-2015, 05:50 PM	#18
bertwert Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Golden, BC Posts: 15,172	Pretty much what luftluss said. If I were you I'd get something with at least: 3 Ghz processor 4 cores 8gb ram 128 gb ssd - to put OS on, move your old hard drive to new computer. USB 3 ports DVD drive

11-21-2015, 06:42 PM	#19
Outis Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Cambridge, MA Posts: 935	Originally posted by csa Yes, the keyboard on my Netbook is terrible! Yeah. I went down to the Microcenter today and tried out keyboards, and the Lenovos, which I'd always heard were great were terrible. Ditto most of the Dells, and pretty much everyone else. I'm probably goign to go with Alienware just because they have a keyboard that's not awful.

11-21-2015, 06:56 PM	#20
dansamy Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Alabama Posts: 2,450	Did you try the Asus ROG line? Or an MSI gaming laptop? You might find that gaming laptop keyboards give you more of the feel you desire.

11-21-2015, 07:17 PM	#21
nikigunn Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: The Enchanted Cottage Photos: Gallery Posts: 75	I agree with the others -- if you have an external HD, get USB 3.0. I notice the difference. Originally posted by Outis I'm probably goign to go with Alienware just because they have a keyboard that's not awful. I have a love/hate thing with my Alienware laptop. I think I have a bad sector in the RAID array which gets annoying, but otherwise I really like it. I love the lighted keyboard, I like how it feels, and this one has the 10-key. My previous laptop had lights in the keyboard too, but this one can be color customized. When I got it, they had the lights on the chassis all going and I turned most of them off. I just keep the power button (set it to change from green when plugged in to purple when on battery power) and keyboard lights on. I don't need it to look like a UFO just landed.

11-21-2015, 08:22 PM	#22
Ex Finn. Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Southern Maryland. Espoo. Kouvola. Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 7,975	Originally posted by csa I will be using a backup external drive, so how about this one? CyberpowerPC Desktop Computer Gamer Xtreme S100 Intel Core i5 6500 (3.20 GHz) 4 GB DDR4 1 TB HDD Windows 10 Home 64-Bit - Newegg.com Looks pretty good. 4 gigs of memory is fine if you only use old 32 bit programs. I think 8 gigs is a bare minimum, 16 would leave some wiggle room. Maybe some real computer expert can chime in. edit: I am 5 hours late, that`s what I get for responding to "posts quoted" Last edited by Ex Finn.; 11-21-2015 at 08:30 PM.

11-21-2015, 08:29 PM	#23
Outis Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Cambridge, MA Posts: 935	Originally posted by nikigunn My previous laptop had lights in the keyboard too, but this one can be color customized. When I got it, they had the lights on the chassis all going and I turned most of them off. I just keep the power button (set it to change from green when plugged in to purple when on battery power) and keyboard lights on. I don't need it to look like a UFO just landed. You should get it a K-S1 and they could be buddies!

11-21-2015, 09:11 PM	#24
csa Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Montana mountains Posts: 10,133 Original Poster	Originally posted by Ex Finn. Looks pretty good. 4 gigs of memory is fine if you only use old 32 bit programs. I think 8 gigs is a bare minimum, 16 would leave some wiggle room. Maybe some real computer expert can chime in. edit: I am 5 hours late, that`s what I get for responding to "posts quoted" I could add memory to this one. I think this (2nd link) would fit my needs very well; considering what I've been using since 2009!

11-21-2015, 09:27 PM - 1 Like	#25
Canada_Rockies Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Sparwood, BC, Canada Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 12,385	Put more memory in it. My wife's computer has 4 Gb RAM and runs Lightroom 6 noticeably slower than my laptop with 8 Gb RAM. Have them install it before shipping. If you install it, and something isn't right, the response may not be all you desire.

11-21-2015, 09:36 PM	#26
luftfluss Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: NJ Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 11,629	Originally posted by csa I could add memory to this one. I think this (2nd link) would fit my needs very well; considering what I've been using since 2009! I really would go for the best CPU, like in your 2nd link. Look at it this way: that Intel CPU can process data up to about 50% faster than the AMD FX-6300 specified in your 1st link. And it's a heckuva lot easier to upgrade RAM in the future than the CPU, so the potential longevity of the "Gamer Xtreme S100" is greater.

11-21-2015, 09:59 PM	#27
csa Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Montana mountains Posts: 10,133 Original Poster	Yes, I was talking about the second one I linked to. I think it will be a good unit for me.

11-21-2015, 10:08 PM	#28
Ex Finn. Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Southern Maryland. Espoo. Kouvola. Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 7,975	Originally posted by csa Yes, I was talking about the second one I linked to. I think it will be a good unit for me. Within your budget, it does look pretty good. Just needs little more memory. IMO

11-22-2015, 07:44 AM	#29
csa Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Montana mountains Posts: 10,133 Original Poster	Originally posted by Canada_Rockies Put more memory in it. My wife's computer has 4 Gb RAM and runs Lightroom 6 noticeably slower than my laptop with 8 Gb RAM. Have them install it before shipping. If you install it, and something isn't right, the response may not be all you desire. I would have to contact NewEgg; don't know whether they offer this service or not. However, I have added more memory to my present computer in the past, & it was easy; just made sure not to have static electricity before touching inside.

11-22-2015, 08:44 AM	#30
bertwert Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Golden, BC Posts: 15,172	Originally posted by csa I have added more memory to my present computer in the past, & it was easy I thought you said you new nothing about computers... If you get the second computer, you can just pop 4gbs of RAM in and it will run nicer / quicker.

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