Do You Know Tires?

reeftool · 09-19-2016, 07:13 AM

On Friday, I got a set of Cooper Discoverer SRX - 255 65/R17 mounted on the 2014 CRV. Total cost, with a NY State yearly inspection, mounting, balance, alignment and taxes came to $697. These are a newer Cooper model made for the smaller SUV's. My initial impressions are positive. They are quieter than the Bridgestones that came with the car. Any final thoughts are going to come in the future. How will it handle snow? How will they wear? My past experiences with Cooper has been very good. I ran them on my pickups and my old Honda CRV, but a different model tire. I fully expect these are the last tires we will buy for this car.

**ChrisPlatt** · 09-19-2016, 02:39 PM

The cheapest Cooper model that comes in my car's size is called Starfire.

Here's Starfire from John Barry's 1961 Stringbeat "concept" album:

You Tube

It's a Jerry Lordan tune (who wrote Apache) and features Ted Taylor on clavioline.

Chris

**Sailor** · 09-21-2016, 11:50 AM

Originally posted by RichardS

He did amazing things from an early age. Many of the visitors to the college used to ask where his rooms were (between the Great Gate and the Chapel in Great Court). It wasn't just the scientific and mathematical folk.

Calculus was fun for me, but chemistry was a nightmare. I had to remember stuff. Maths was just plain common sense and obvious, until we got to partial differential equations of the third degree in second or third year engineering. That was where maths and I parted company

Regards,
Richard.

Yup. Diff-E-Q can cause a lot of pain.

Jer

---------- Post added 09-21-2016 at 03:59 PM ----------

Originally posted by Just1MoreDave

I have the same rear wear. Is my wife secretly doing burnouts?

It's a little unexpected because MB uses the same size tires on the SLK350, with 50% more power, maybe 200lbs heavier. The rear tires are larger than the fronts so rotation isn't possible.

I'm guessing she's doin' a little hot rodding!

All my cars since 2008 have had staggered tires, which makes managing tires for longer life impossible.

A few months after I bought my 2015 BMW M4, I picked up a nail in a rear tire. Fortunately it was repairable, since the Michelin Pilot Super Sports especially specced for the car were back ordered. Hmmmmmmmm . . . . . . . I wonder why M3 and M4 owners were chewing up rear tires.

Jer

SpecialK · 09-21-2016, 12:13 PM

Originally posted by ChrisPlatt

P.S. - Please let me know where I can get a decent set of four new tires for $250!

Not sure about decent, but I think it was $188 out the door from America's Tire.

lesmore49 · 09-21-2016, 02:20 PM

Originally posted by ChrisPlatt

The cheapest Cooper model that comes in my car's size is called Starfire.

Here's Starfire from John Barry's 1961 Stringbeat "concept" album:

John Barry Seven - Starfire - 1961 45rpm - YouTube

It's a Jerry Lordan tune (who wrote Apache) and features Ted Taylor on clavioline.

Chris

Don't know the song or the Cooper model, but I do know the '60's Oldsmobile Starfire. Back in the '60's a boss of mine had a '64 Olds Starfire, 2 dr. hard top. It had a powerful engine...the 394 cube Rocket V8...this one rated around 345 hp. Nice car, expensive for it's time.

**ChrisPlatt** · 09-21-2016, 03:44 PM

My older brother owned an early '60's Olds in the 1970's.
It had aluminum valve guides and burned oil like crazy.

Later they resurrected the Starfire name for the Olds variant of the GM H-body.

Chris

**ChrisPlatt** · 09-25-2016, 12:36 PM

Just looked and I already have Starfires on the car.

They were put on by the seller when I bought the car three years ago.

They handle well and still have plenty of tread left, but lately they have been losing pressure quickly,
including the two tires that have never been plugged.

Unless it's just leaky valves it's not worth the time or cost of checking, repairing and remounting them.
I'd rather spend that money towards a new set.

I'm currently leaning towards the General Altimax RT43. Does anyone here have a set of these?

Chris

Ratmagiclady · 09-27-2016, 07:42 AM

Originally posted by ChrisPlatt

Just looked and I already have Starfires on the car.

They were put on by the seller when I bought the car three years ago.

They handle well and still have plenty of tread left, but lately they have been losing pressure quickly,
including the two tires that have never been plugged.

Unless it's just leaky valves it's not worth the time or cost of checking, repairing and remounting them.
I'd rather spend that money towards a new set.

I'm currently leaning towards the General Altimax RT43. Does anyone here have a set of these?

Chris

I think someone was just talking about them, (maybe searchable on this thread.) Can't really remember but I think they were in someone's top tier.

**ChrisPlatt** · 09-27-2016, 07:13 PM

No mention of the General Altimax RT43's here, but lots of good reviews on the 'Net.

I'm tempted by a real good price on a set of Goodyear Eagle GT All-Season tires.
Dealer offers free shipping on these. Too bad reviews say they wear out quickly.
The look on my carrier's face delivering four tires would be priceless!

Chris

**Just1MoreDave** · 09-28-2016, 11:24 AM

It's perfectly OK to have tires sent by UPS - really hard to throw, unlikely to be damaged if dropped, doesn't matter if they are left out in the rain.

rawr · 09-29-2016, 09:37 PM

No love for cheap Chinese tires? Like the 'Goodride' brand ones, made by the esteemed Hangzhou Zhongce Rubber Co. Ltd, that I bought last week.

They are the largest tyre maker in China, apparently, so I guess/hope they know how to make an OK tyre ...

Ratmagiclady · 09-30-2016, 11:08 AM

Originally posted by rawr

No love for cheap Chinese tires? Like the 'Goodride' brand ones, made by the esteemed Hangzhou Zhongce Rubber Co. Ltd, that I bought last week.

They are the largest tyre maker in China, apparently, so I guess/hope they know how to make an OK tyre ...

I guess let us know how those work out. Tires are somewhere I don't want to skimp or take chances. Could be the same stuff sold at Wal-Mart under different brands, though, whatever that's worth. Frankly, I'd rather run good used tires if available than go any cheaper than my basic Kellys. (Which were fifty bucks apiece, but I was in a bind: they're usually what I recommend to people who don't drive even halfway hard ever, just need to go, but they're better than expected, honestly, especially since I tamed some of the rest of my suspension.) Anyway, sometimes a Chinese company makes honest products and are trying, sometimes they'll throw whatever garbage in there and stick a brand name that confuses non-English speakers about what they're getting. ('Goodride' for instance: how many letters of Japanese would you really memorize if the cameras came labeled that way, yaknow?)

**ChrisPlatt** · 09-30-2016, 06:44 PM

"Goodride" sounds too much like Good Year.
Hey, why not capitalize on someone else's reputation?
It's like free advertising.

Maybe some less canny Chinese company will market "Skidmore" brand tires.

My concerns are similar to RML's. You shouldn't cheap around with tires or brakes.
Even if it costs a bit more I prefer to buy American, especially in this case.

Chris

lesmore49 · 09-30-2016, 08:11 PM

Originally posted by ChrisPlatt

"Goodride" sounds too much like Good Year.
Hey, why not capitalize on someone else's reputation?
It's like free advertising.

Maybe some less canny Chinese company will market "Skidmore" brand tires.

My concerns are similar to RML's. You shouldn't cheap around with tires or brakes.
Even if it costs a bit more I prefer to buy American, especially in this case.

Chris

X 2....never cheap on tires or brakes. My tire brand of choice are Michelin, we all have our preference I suppose.

Ratmagiclady · 10-01-2016, 06:29 AM

I think 'Skidmore' tires would be great for the drifting set.

Originally posted by lesmore49

X 2....never cheap on tires or brakes. My tire brand of choice are Michelin, we all have our preference I suppose.

I think maybe it's more like we've all got our good and bad experiences, depends how many tires we actually have run, really. Since a lot of people I know come to me for advice there or whatnot, I do have some secondhand experiences to draw on... they're usually not looking to spend a lot, mind you: based on a friend's experiences lately in the nicer-than-middling range I think I'd pick Michelins over Continentals, though I'm not so sure the latter tires are really to blame for the problems she kept having. (I suppose we'll find out.

)

Housemate came back with some Tiger Paws recently, and those seem good. (I haven't run those myself since the set I had in high school, prior to the ol GT Qualifiers I probably wouldn't mind having again like they were. Kind of a favorite snapshot from high school memories is a friend in the passenger seat going, "AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANICE tires!"

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09-19-2016, 07:13 AM	#76
reeftool Pentaxian Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Upstate New York Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 9,553	On Friday, I got a set of Cooper Discoverer SRX - 255 65/R17 mounted on the 2014 CRV. Total cost, with a NY State yearly inspection, mounting, balance, alignment and taxes came to $697. These are a newer Cooper model made for the smaller SUV's. My initial impressions are positive. They are quieter than the Bridgestones that came with the car. Any final thoughts are going to come in the future. How will it handle snow? How will they wear? My past experiences with Cooper has been very good. I ran them on my pickups and my old Honda CRV, but a different model tire. I fully expect these are the last tires we will buy for this car.

09-21-2016, 11:50 AM	#78
Sailor Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Coastal Texas Photos: Gallery Posts: 26,205	Originally posted by RichardS He did amazing things from an early age. Many of the visitors to the college used to ask where his rooms were (between the Great Gate and the Chapel in Great Court). It wasn't just the scientific and mathematical folk. Calculus was fun for me, but chemistry was a nightmare. I had to remember stuff. Maths was just plain common sense and obvious, until we got to partial differential equations of the third degree in second or third year engineering. That was where maths and I parted company Regards, Richard. Yup. Diff-E-Q can cause a lot of pain. Jer ---------- Post added 09-21-2016 at 03:59 PM ---------- Originally posted by Just1MoreDave I have the same rear wear. Is my wife secretly doing burnouts? It's a little unexpected because MB uses the same size tires on the SLK350, with 50% more power, maybe 200lbs heavier. The rear tires are larger than the fronts so rotation isn't possible. I'm guessing she's doin' a little hot rodding! All my cars since 2008 have had staggered tires, which makes managing tires for longer life impossible. A few months after I bought my 2015 BMW M4, I picked up a nail in a rear tire. Fortunately it was repairable, since the Michelin Pilot Super Sports especially specced for the car were back ordered. Hmmmmmmmm . . . . . . . I wonder why M3 and M4 owners were chewing up rear tires. Jer

09-21-2016, 12:13 PM	#79
SpecialK Pentaxian Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: So California Photos: Gallery Posts: 16,480	Originally posted by ChrisPlatt P.S. - Please let me know where I can get a decent set of four new tires for $250! Not sure about decent, but I think it was $188 out the door from America's Tire.

09-21-2016, 02:20 PM	#80
lesmore49 Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Western Canada Posts: 12,342	Originally posted by ChrisPlatt The cheapest Cooper model that comes in my car's size is called Starfire. Here's Starfire from John Barry's 1961 Stringbeat "concept" album: John Barry Seven - Starfire - 1961 45rpm - YouTube It's a Jerry Lordan tune (who wrote Apache) and features Ted Taylor on clavioline. Chris Don't know the song or the Cooper model, but I do know the '60's Oldsmobile Starfire. Back in the '60's a boss of mine had a '64 Olds Starfire, 2 dr. hard top. It had a powerful engine...the 394 cube Rocket V8...this one rated around 345 hp. Nice car, expensive for it's time.

09-21-2016, 03:44 PM	#81
ChrisPlatt Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Rockaway Beach NYC Posts: 7,692	My older brother owned an early '60's Olds in the 1970's. It had aluminum valve guides and burned oil like crazy. Later they resurrected the Starfire name for the Olds variant of the GM H-body. Chris

09-25-2016, 12:36 PM	#82
ChrisPlatt Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Rockaway Beach NYC Posts: 7,692	Just looked and I already have Starfires on the car. They were put on by the seller when I bought the car three years ago. They handle well and still have plenty of tread left, but lately they have been losing pressure quickly, including the two tires that have never been plugged. Unless it's just leaky valves it's not worth the time or cost of checking, repairing and remounting them. I'd rather spend that money towards a new set. I'm currently leaning towards the General Altimax RT43. Does anyone here have a set of these? Chris

09-27-2016, 07:42 AM	#83
Ratmagiclady Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: GA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 13,563	Originally posted by ChrisPlatt Just looked and I already have Starfires on the car. They were put on by the seller when I bought the car three years ago. They handle well and still have plenty of tread left, but lately they have been losing pressure quickly, including the two tires that have never been plugged. Unless it's just leaky valves it's not worth the time or cost of checking, repairing and remounting them. I'd rather spend that money towards a new set. I'm currently leaning towards the General Altimax RT43. Does anyone here have a set of these? Chris I think someone was just talking about them, (maybe searchable on this thread.) Can't really remember but I think they were in someone's top tier.

09-27-2016, 07:13 PM	#84
ChrisPlatt Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Rockaway Beach NYC Posts: 7,692	No mention of the General Altimax RT43's here, but lots of good reviews on the 'Net. I'm tempted by a real good price on a set of Goodyear Eagle GT All-Season tires. Dealer offers free shipping on these. Too bad reviews say they wear out quickly. The look on my carrier's face delivering four tires would be priceless! Chris

09-28-2016, 11:24 AM	#85
Just1MoreDave Site Supporter Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Aurora, CO Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 6,340	It's perfectly OK to have tires sent by UPS - really hard to throw, unlikely to be damaged if dropped, doesn't matter if they are left out in the rain.

09-29-2016, 09:37 PM	#86
rawr Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 11,913	No love for cheap Chinese tires? Like the 'Goodride' brand ones, made by the esteemed Hangzhou Zhongce Rubber Co. Ltd, that I bought last week. They are the largest tyre maker in China, apparently, so I guess/hope they know how to make an OK tyre ...

09-30-2016, 11:08 AM	#87
Ratmagiclady Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: GA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 13,563	Originally posted by rawr No love for cheap Chinese tires? Like the 'Goodride' brand ones, made by the esteemed Hangzhou Zhongce Rubber Co. Ltd, that I bought last week. They are the largest tyre maker in China, apparently, so I guess/hope they know how to make an OK tyre ... I guess let us know how those work out. Tires are somewhere I don't want to skimp or take chances. Could be the same stuff sold at Wal-Mart under different brands, though, whatever that's worth. Frankly, I'd rather run good used tires if available than go any cheaper than my basic Kellys. (Which were fifty bucks apiece, but I was in a bind: they're usually what I recommend to people who don't drive even halfway hard ever, just need to go, but they're better than expected, honestly, especially since I tamed some of the rest of my suspension.) Anyway, sometimes a Chinese company makes honest products and are trying, sometimes they'll throw whatever garbage in there and stick a brand name that confuses non-English speakers about what they're getting. ('Goodride' for instance: how many letters of Japanese would you really memorize if the cameras came labeled that way, yaknow?)

09-30-2016, 06:44 PM	#88
ChrisPlatt Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Rockaway Beach NYC Posts: 7,692	"Goodride" sounds too much like Good Year. Hey, why not capitalize on someone else's reputation? It's like free advertising. Maybe some less canny Chinese company will market "Skidmore" brand tires. My concerns are similar to RML's. You shouldn't cheap around with tires or brakes. Even if it costs a bit more I prefer to buy American, especially in this case. Chris

09-30-2016, 08:11 PM	#89
lesmore49 Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Western Canada Posts: 12,342	Originally posted by ChrisPlatt "Goodride" sounds too much like Good Year. Hey, why not capitalize on someone else's reputation? It's like free advertising. Maybe some less canny Chinese company will market "Skidmore" brand tires. My concerns are similar to RML's. You shouldn't cheap around with tires or brakes. Even if it costs a bit more I prefer to buy American, especially in this case. Chris X 2....never cheap on tires or brakes. My tire brand of choice are Michelin, we all have our preference I suppose.

10-01-2016, 06:29 AM	#90
Ratmagiclady Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: GA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 13,563	I think 'Skidmore' tires would be great for the drifting set. Originally posted by lesmore49 X 2....never cheap on tires or brakes. My tire brand of choice are Michelin, we all have our preference I suppose. I think maybe it's more like we've all got our good and bad experiences, depends how many tires we actually have run, really. Since a lot of people I know come to me for advice there or whatnot, I do have some secondhand experiences to draw on... they're usually not looking to spend a lot, mind you: based on a friend's experiences lately in the nicer-than-middling range I think I'd pick Michelins over Continentals, though I'm not so sure the latter tires are really to blame for the problems she kept having. (I suppose we'll find out. ) Housemate came back with some Tiger Paws recently, and those seem good. (I haven't run those myself since the set I had in high school, prior to the ol GT Qualifiers I probably wouldn't mind having again like they were. Kind of a favorite snapshot from high school memories is a friend in the passenger seat going, "AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANICE tires!"