[robert52]

Hi well about 6 weeks ago went from Broadband to NBN after many drop outs ( we dont have fiber in street still land line)
Well been good until this week drop outs same as before BUT also lose home phone . Oh what joys
Not happy Jan
Ps this is number 3 to do this post as it drops out LOL

[Digitalis]

Telstra and their wonderful customer service department has bungled things badly with the NBN rollout.

[surfar]

Had the NBN on a couple of weeks at my girlfriends house....iinet, fibre to the node(across the road,about 50m away)...so far its not that much faster.....but it beats the dropout rate by a mile.Previous dropout rate was zero,now its frequent.Kevin Rudderless,leader of uselessness.
About to put Satellite on my house so will report that functionality when I've got it.

[Digitalis]

I read that the NBN won't be Available in Grange - until 2018, I looked it up because I'm looking to move back there. I'm presently living on the south coast roughly 46km out of the city, and they don't even have the NBN in Grange yet.

DAFUQ?

[p38arover]

Telstra and their wonderful customer service department has bungled things badly with the NBN rollout.

Telstra or NBN Corp?

I don't what's happening here now. I'm on Optus broadband cable (which Is HFC - hybrid fibre cable) for phone and Internet and expected to eventually be fibre to the premises*. Optus (or NBN) came through our street late last year and connected to the HFC everyone who wasn't already connected, e.g., my next door neighbour who doesn't have Internet or cable TV.

If they are no longer going to do FTTP, what we'll get is unknown.

The other thing is that NBN's charge for 12MB/s is about the same as I currently pay Optus for 30MB/s

* Optus call it fibre to the premise - they obviously think premise is the singular of premises. It's not.

[Kerrowdown]

Telstra NBN NOT

Does that come with a Scottish translation?

In fact quite a few of the posts in this thread require this.

[clackers]

Lads, NBN does not equal Telstra.

Perhaps Telstra will buy the NBN in the future, but they'd be up against a bunch of other bidders.

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[RobA_Oz]

Does that come with a Scottish translation?

In fact quite a few of the posts in this thread require this.

No, but you're not missing much. NBN = National Broadband Network, which was conceived as a (mostly) nationwide fibre optic voice and data network by the former government under PM Kevin Rudd, but vehemently opposed by the then-opposition/now government who locked themselves into a hybrid fibre-copper solution because they said it would be cheaper. Arguably, it isn't and doesn't work as well.

Here in Australia's South Island, we were fortunate enough to be among the first installations, so we have a complete fibre optic network, whereas the benighted rest of the country has to put up with the hybrid network. I had no problem with any of my two installations (home and office), which work well. Remoter parts of our wide brown land have been promised satellite communications, some of which are said to work.

Like I said: you're not missing much in all that, being in the soon-to-be Scexit part of the UK, where communications are probably far superior to those in the colonies.

PS: FTTP = Fibre to the Premises, as against FTTN = Fibre to the Node (ie somewhere in the neighbourhood, but not your front door).

[p38arover]

Does that come with a Scottish translation?

In fact quite a few of the posts in this thread require this.

Yep, it has nothing to do with photography.

In very simple terms:

Telstra is the biggest telco in Australia, largely owned by the Aust govt and is the equivalent of British Telecom or AT&T. It was originally part of the Australian Post Office, much like BT came out of the British Post Office.

Optus is the next biggest telco and is owned by Singapore Telecom. Before SingTel bought it, it started out of the company for which I worked.

NBN is the National Broadband Network and is the Australian govt's initiative to get a faster network throughout the populated areas of Oz. NBN Co. Is wholly owned by the Australian govt (federal not state).

The plan is that the copper network (owned by Telstra) will be replaced by the broadband network.

[RobA_Oz]

Yep, it has nothing to do with photography.

In very simple terms:

Telstra is the biggest telco in Australia, largely previously owned by the Aust govt and is the equivalent of British Telecom or AT&T. It was originally part of the Australian Post Office, much like BT came out of the British Post Office.

Optus is the next biggest telco and is owned by Singapore Telecom. Before SingTel bought it, it started out of the company for which I worked.

NBN is the National Broadband Network and is the Australian govt's initiative to get a faster network throughout the populated areas of Oz. NBN Co. Is wholly owned by the Australian govt (federal not state).

The plan is that the copper network (owned by Telstra) will be replaced by the broadband network.

Fixed your Telstra ownership statement.

[beachgardener]

The plan is that the copper network (owned by Telstra) will be replaced by the broadband network.

is that still the plan of the current Gov?
we nearly had a fibre to the home, would have been a great network, the in coming Torys squashed it and still include the ancient copper (cheaper they said, in fact they seem to haver no clue in what to do) as still in the network, they are laying fibre, but not all the way to the home. only to nodes, that is the way I see it

[RobA_Oz]

is that still the plan of the current Gov?
we nearly had a fibre to the home, would have been a great network, the in coming Torys squashed it and still include the ancient copper (cheaper they said, in fact they seem to haver no clue in what to do) as still in the network, they are laying fibre, but not all the way to the home. only to nodes, that is the way I see it

It's pretty much what I described in my post above.

This will make a great example for a future university business or government faculty case study in how pure partisan politicking can create costly, inefficient government initiatives. I'm sure people in other countries are seeing some of this happening, where an opposition will campaign vigorously against anything and everything that a government does. In the old days, they'd generally quietly shelve their campaign when they got into government, but now they seem to have more often convinced themselves with their own BS, so they have to come up with something to replace their opponent's proposals, no matter if it is inferior.

[Kerrowdown]

No, but you're not missing much

Yep, it has nothing to do with photography.

Thank you both.

[p38arover]

Fixed your Telstra ownership statement.

You're right - I'd forgotten the Future Fund has sold off the remaining shares.

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Gents, leave out the politics or this will be closed.

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I started working for the Overseas Telecommunications Commission (OTC) in 1965 and, after 3 years training as a technician, initially worked in OTC's satellite communication earth stations. Aussat was born out of OTC - a lot of my colleagues from the satellite stations were moved across to Aussat. Aussat eventually became Optus and OTC was merged with Telecom Australia (KD, the later name for the PMG's Dept/Australian Post Office) to become Telstra.

I took redundancy from Telstra in 2002 after 37 years with OTC then Telstra.

[beachgardener]

as far as i know optus is owned by singapore gov.