Sharing sensitive information?

**BruceBanner** · 02-01-2018, 01:45 AM

Hey... quick question;

I have new business cards, I was gonna take a nice picture of them in a business card holder, perhaps use as a cover photo/image for my fb page, flickr etc, then it occurred to me... "Hmm.... should I be concerned with an image on the internet with my phone number and website pages? I mean... I do mean to advertise myself, the information on the card is already 'out there', but perhaps just not out there as a jpg...

Thoughts?

I don't want to blur or blank the deets as that destroys the image/concept...

**aslyfox** · 02-01-2018, 03:40 AM

your decision

but as you say, such information is already " out there "

______________________

As an example, I take the position generally that the only computer safe from hacking is one not hooked up to the internet currently and has never been hooked up to the internet

so you use encryption and other " protection " devices and services

yet there is no 100 % guaranty you won't be hacked.

IOW, there are things you take precautions against but while doing so realize that despite your best efforts such precautions could fail.

_______________________________________

what is the difference between such information being " out there " in its current form and the same information being out there as a jpg???

I don't see any

**twilhelm** · 02-01-2018, 09:53 AM

As you hand out those cards to possible customers, that information is being put “out there”. Someone will take a phone pic of your card at some point and pass it along to someone else as a jpg.

You are essentially putting yourself out there as a business. I always had a separate “private” phone number that wasn’t associated with business. It gave me that separation.

**dadipentak** · 02-01-2018, 10:01 AM

You're right to think about potential risks and appropriate precautions but If you're in business you have to advertise--right?

**BruceBanner** · 02-01-2018, 11:48 AM

Cool thanks peeps. Yeh I couldn't come up with a specific reason not to, and it appears no one else here can either, so I think I'll do it.

Ta!

Bruce

**clackers** · 02-01-2018, 12:08 PM

You can have a card that only mentions your business email address or URL of your website that has a contact form.

No phone number, you just write that on the back of the card as needed when meeting someone.

**BruceBanner** · 02-01-2018, 12:26 PM

Originally posted by clackers

You can have a card that only mentions your business email address or URL of your website that has a contact form.

No phone number, you just write that on the back of the card as needed when meeting someone.

Nice idea. As someone who has had specific sales experience tho a phone number is preferable to email (that is if you know how to conduct yourself on the phone of course). My card actually has no email, only my number and site addresses (which of course have email contact points there). My future card will also be double sided, anyhow thanks for contributing

**clackers** · 02-01-2018, 12:45 PM

Originally posted by BruceBanner

Nice idea. As someone who has had specific sales experience tho a phone number is preferable to email (that is if you know how to conduct yourself on the phone of course). My card actually has no email, only my number and site addresses (which of course have email contact points there). My future card will also be double sided, anyhow thanks for contributing

Personally, I think first contact should be by email, screening out the time wasters, reserving phone conversations for real leads.

**aslyfox** · 02-01-2018, 01:20 PM

Back in the day when I ran my own operation, I never handed out business cards

instead:

" Have a book mark "

is what I would say

book marks are helpful, business cards just get thrown away

strange my book marks was the same size and had the same info as what was on a business card

BrianR · 02-01-2018, 01:23 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by clackers

No phone number, you just write that on the back of the card as needed when meeting someone.

Implicitly saying "YOU are so damn important, I'm giving YOU my phone number". Plus, if you don't actually want to hear from them, you can put down the phone number of an off-track betting agent.

Adam · 02-01-2018, 01:53 PM

Don't put anything on a business card that you wouldn't consider public information. Do you have a separate business phone number?

**BruceBanner** · 02-01-2018, 02:40 PM

Originally posted by Aslyfox

Back in the day when I ran my own operation, I never handed out business cards

instead:

" Have a book mark "

is what I would say

book marks are helpful, business cards just get thrown away

strange my book marks was the same size and had the same info as what was on a business card

I don't have high hopes for business cards, never have. I'm just getting to the point that now when I offer to take random portrait shots of people (street photography, folk in parks, folk at work outdoors etc) I'd like to give them something also to help them feel secure that I am not just a creep but a talented creep lol. It helps spread word of mouth and that's my main intention, to have a few on my person at all times.

Originally posted by Adam

Don't put anything on a business card that you wouldn't consider public information. Do you have a separate business phone number?

Nah I don't, but then spam is spam, getting annoying calls to a business number is I guess as bad as to yer personal. I only did a small run, $20 spent, will see how I go, numbers can be added and changed on future runs if need be.

Wheatfield · 02-01-2018, 03:04 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by BruceBanner

Hey... quick question;

I have new business cards, I was gonna take a nice picture of them in a business card holder, perhaps use as a cover photo/image for my fb page, flickr etc, then it occurred to me... "Hmm.... should I be concerned with an image on the internet with my phone number and website pages? I mean... I do mean to advertise myself, the information on the card is already 'out there', but perhaps just not out there as a jpg...

Thoughts?

I don't want to blur or blank the deets as that destroys the image/concept...

If you really want to advertise your business, then the price you pay is putting your business information out in the wild. It's not hard to keep your business info separate from your personal info.

**dadipentak** · 02-01-2018, 03:15 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by BruceBanner

I don't have high hopes for business cards, never have. I'm just getting to the point that now when I offer to take random portrait shots of people (street photography, folk in parks, folk at work outdoors etc) I'd like to give them something also to help them feel secure that I am not just a creep but a talented creep lol. It helps spread word of mouth and that's my main intention, to have a few on my person at all times.

I do the same, actually--email address and a link to my SmugMug gallery plus my avatar photo and "Pentax Photography for fun" just to make it clear that I do not want to shoot their wedding

! I'll write a phone number on the back if that feels appropriate.

**clackers** · 02-01-2018, 03:27 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by BrianR

Implicitly saying "YOU are so damn important, I'm giving YOU my phone number". Plus, if you don't actually want to hear from them, you can put down the phone number of an off-track betting agent.

(Laughs)

I have printed off a separate card with that betting agent's number ... I use it when running into ex-wives and debt collectors, which can be six or seven times a day. Reminds me, I must reorder a new box of 500!

02-01-2018, 01:45 AM	#1
BruceBanner Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2015 Posts: 5,404	Sharing sensitive information? Hey... quick question; I have new business cards, I was gonna take a nice picture of them in a business card holder, perhaps use as a cover photo/image for my fb page, flickr etc, then it occurred to me... "Hmm.... should I be concerned with an image on the internet with my phone number and website pages? I mean... I do mean to advertise myself, the information on the card is already 'out there', but perhaps just not out there as a jpg... Thoughts? I don't want to blur or blank the deets as that destroys the image/concept...

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clackers Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Melbourne Photos: Albums Posts: 16,397	Originally posted by BrianR Implicitly saying "YOU are so damn important, I'm giving YOU my phone number". Plus, if you don't actually want to hear from them, you can put down the phone number of an off-track betting agent. (Laughs) I have printed off a separate card with that betting agent's number ... I use it when running into ex-wives and debt collectors, which can be six or seven times a day. Reminds me, I must reorder a new box of 500! Last edited by clackers; 02-01-2018 at 07:18 PM.

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02-01-2018, 03:40 AM	#2
aslyfox Seeker of Knowledge Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Topeka, Kansas Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 24,581	your decision but as you say, such information is already " out there " ______________________ As an example, I take the position generally that the only computer safe from hacking is one not hooked up to the internet currently and has never been hooked up to the internet so you use encryption and other " protection " devices and services yet there is no 100 % guaranty you won't be hacked. IOW, there are things you take precautions against but while doing so realize that despite your best efforts such precautions could fail. _______________________________________ what is the difference between such information being " out there " in its current form and the same information being out there as a jpg??? I don't see any

02-01-2018, 09:53 AM	#3
twilhelm Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Florida Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,369	As you hand out those cards to possible customers, that information is being put “out there”. Someone will take a phone pic of your card at some point and pass it along to someone else as a jpg. You are essentially putting yourself out there as a business. I always had a separate “private” phone number that wasn’t associated with business. It gave me that separation.

02-01-2018, 10:01 AM	#4
dadipentak Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Baltimore, Maryland Photos: Gallery Posts: 11,590	You're right to think about potential risks and appropriate precautions but If you're in business you have to advertise--right?

02-01-2018, 11:48 AM	#5
BruceBanner Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2015 Posts: 5,404 Original Poster	Cool thanks peeps. Yeh I couldn't come up with a specific reason not to, and it appears no one else here can either, so I think I'll do it. Ta! Bruce

02-01-2018, 12:08 PM	#6
clackers Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Melbourne Photos: Albums Posts: 16,397	You can have a card that only mentions your business email address or URL of your website that has a contact form. No phone number, you just write that on the back of the card as needed when meeting someone.

02-01-2018, 12:26 PM	#7
BruceBanner Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2015 Posts: 5,404 Original Poster	Originally posted by clackers You can have a card that only mentions your business email address or URL of your website that has a contact form. No phone number, you just write that on the back of the card as needed when meeting someone. Nice idea. As someone who has had specific sales experience tho a phone number is preferable to email (that is if you know how to conduct yourself on the phone of course). My card actually has no email, only my number and site addresses (which of course have email contact points there). My future card will also be double sided, anyhow thanks for contributing

02-01-2018, 12:45 PM	#8
clackers Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Melbourne Photos: Albums Posts: 16,397	Originally posted by BruceBanner Nice idea. As someone who has had specific sales experience tho a phone number is preferable to email (that is if you know how to conduct yourself on the phone of course). My card actually has no email, only my number and site addresses (which of course have email contact points there). My future card will also be double sided, anyhow thanks for contributing Personally, I think first contact should be by email, screening out the time wasters, reserving phone conversations for real leads.

02-01-2018, 01:20 PM	#9
aslyfox Seeker of Knowledge Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Topeka, Kansas Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 24,581	Back in the day when I ran my own operation, I never handed out business cards instead: " Have a book mark " is what I would say book marks are helpful, business cards just get thrown away strange my book marks was the same size and had the same info as what was on a business card

02-01-2018, 01:23 PM - 1 Like	#10
BrianR Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Ontario Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,332	Originally posted by clackers No phone number, you just write that on the back of the card as needed when meeting someone. Implicitly saying "YOU are so damn important, I'm giving YOU my phone number". Plus, if you don't actually want to hear from them, you can put down the phone number of an off-track betting agent.

02-01-2018, 02:40 PM	#12
BruceBanner Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2015 Posts: 5,404 Original Poster	Originally posted by Aslyfox Back in the day when I ran my own operation, I never handed out business cards instead: " Have a book mark " is what I would say book marks are helpful, business cards just get thrown away strange my book marks was the same size and had the same info as what was on a business card I don't have high hopes for business cards, never have. I'm just getting to the point that now when I offer to take random portrait shots of people (street photography, folk in parks, folk at work outdoors etc) I'd like to give them something also to help them feel secure that I am not just a creep but a talented creep lol. It helps spread word of mouth and that's my main intention, to have a few on my person at all times. Originally posted by Adam Don't put anything on a business card that you wouldn't consider public information. Do you have a separate business phone number? Nah I don't, but then spam is spam, getting annoying calls to a business number is I guess as bad as to yer personal. I only did a small run, $20 spent, will see how I go, numbers can be added and changed on future runs if need be.

02-01-2018, 03:04 PM - 1 Like	#13
Wheatfield Moderator Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: The wheatfields of Canada Posts: 15,981	Originally posted by BruceBanner Hey... quick question; I have new business cards, I was gonna take a nice picture of them in a business card holder, perhaps use as a cover photo/image for my fb page, flickr etc, then it occurred to me... "Hmm.... should I be concerned with an image on the internet with my phone number and website pages? I mean... I do mean to advertise myself, the information on the card is already 'out there', but perhaps just not out there as a jpg... Thoughts? I don't want to blur or blank the deets as that destroys the image/concept... If you really want to advertise your business, then the price you pay is putting your business information out in the wild. It's not hard to keep your business info separate from your personal info.

02-01-2018, 03:15 PM - 1 Like	#14
dadipentak Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Baltimore, Maryland Photos: Gallery Posts: 11,590	Originally posted by BruceBanner I don't have high hopes for business cards, never have. I'm just getting to the point that now when I offer to take random portrait shots of people (street photography, folk in parks, folk at work outdoors etc) I'd like to give them something also to help them feel secure that I am not just a creep but a talented creep lol. It helps spread word of mouth and that's my main intention, to have a few on my person at all times. I do the same, actually--email address and a link to my SmugMug gallery plus my avatar photo and "Pentax Photography for fun" just to make it clear that I do not want to shoot their wedding ! I'll write a phone number on the back if that feels appropriate.