Apologies to those who found my thread about fun meaningless or obscure.

35mmfilmfan · 10-09-2019, 02:23 PM - **2 Likes**

Let me explain.

There was a recent thread called 'Lets Have Some Fun', in which some comments were made that I found humorous, but apparently others did not. This thread was closed.

My own thread (WoW, by the way is a UK term expressing surprise) was intended as an ironic comment on the closure of a thread intended, as stated, as a bit of fun. The 1984 reference was, of course, to the book by George Orwell. I suppose that could have been seen as political. That thread too was closed.

Anyway, that's all I meant by that thread - shame some people took it the way I did not intend.

My most sincere, humble and abject apologies to those upon whose toes i inadvertently trod.

dbs · 10-09-2019, 02:33 PM - **1 Like**

Hi

Fun is going the way of the dodo nowadays
Interpretation has changed alot this century
I think I would have enjoyed your thread

Dave

**ramseybuckeye** · 10-09-2019, 02:41 PM

Don't sweat it, everybody has been misinterpreted now and again.

**Kerrowdown** · 10-09-2019, 02:53 PM - **1 Like**

Aye the are lots of new police types in the world, many are self appointed too... PC, fun, speed, drinking, smoking to name but a few, did I mention fun.

**Reality_Check** · 10-09-2019, 03:03 PM - **2 Likes**

Speed drinking is fun - haven't done that in years!

MarkJerling · 10-09-2019, 03:14 PM - **3 Likes**

Originally posted by 35mmfilmfan

Let me explain.

There was a recent thread called 'Lets Have Some Fun', in which some comments were made that I found humorous, but apparently others did not. This thread was closed.

My own thread (WoW, by the way is a UK term expressing surprise) was intended as an ironic comment on the closure of a thread intended, as stated, as a bit of fun. The 1984 reference was, of course, to the book by George Orwell. I suppose that could have been seen as political. That thread too was closed.

Anyway, that's all I meant by that thread - shame some people took it the way I did not intend.

My most sincere, humble and abject apologies to those upon whose toes i inadvertently trod.

I presume, you mean this thread: Let's have some fun! - PentaxForums.com

That became a slugging match between two members so the moderating team decided to close the thread lest it became more personal.

You then started a new thread: WoW No more fun - PentaxForums.com where you appeared to take a dig at the moderating team with your 1984 reference.

The thread did not provide the context, clearly leaving members confused as to what was being discussed and resulting in further discussions which really served little purpose.
A moderator made the decision to close that thread.

Now, you have this new thread, for no apparent purpose but to rehash the whole saga. Before I close this one - Can anyone see any point in keeping this up?

A little rule reminder:

"Although debates and discussions are allowed, we would like to maintain a friendly forum and do not tolerate rudeness, insulting posts, personal attacks or inflammatory posts."

"While our rules cover typical forum situations, they cannot anticipate everything. Thus we reserve the right to take any actions we deem appropriate to ensure our website and forum is not disrupted or abused in any way. Several moderators are present on our site to maintain an orderly, friendly forum and to help members adhere to the rules. Moderators attempt to remove any objectionable content posted on site as quickly as possible, and deal with any conflicts between forum members. Any objection to a moderator's course of action or conflicts with other staff members are handled by an appeal process to the site administration."

"To discourage threads from going off-topic, general moderator actions, site policies, and forum rules are not to be discussed in threads outside of the site suggestions forum."

"Moderator actions pertaining to your own posts may only be discussed privately."

**UncleVanya** · 10-09-2019, 03:20 PM - **1 Like**

I see it as an apology. I missed the other threads so perhaps I'm naive. Mark I'd let it stand as long as people don't like on. Just my input to your question.

BROO · 10-09-2019, 03:30 PM

Originally posted by MarkJerling

"Although debates and discussions are allowed, we would like to maintain a friendly forum and do not tolerate rudeness, insulting posts, personal attacks or inflammatory posts."

Maybe you could add quoting people out of context to that?

ChristianRock · 10-09-2019, 03:33 PM - **2 Likes**

I'm not sure what the OP is trying to accomplish... why not join a photography related conversation, instead of continuing this?

This has nothing to do with "General Photography" by the way.

MarkJerling · 10-09-2019, 03:37 PM

Originally posted by BROO

Maybe you could add quoting people out of context to that?

I'm not sure it's something that can be easily enforced. My suggestion would be that if you feel you're being misquoted, that you simply reply in the thread and add a clarification. If there's an ongoing issue, then please feel free to contact the moderating team.

MarkJerling · 10-09-2019, 03:38 PM

Originally posted by ChristianRock

I'm not sure what the OP is trying to accomplish... why not join a photography related conversation, instead of continuing this?

This has nothing to do with "General Photography" by the way.

Good point. I'll move it.

tokyoscape · 10-09-2019, 03:39 PM

Many time Text conversation is hard to interpret.

I haven't read the other thread, by the way.

BROO · 10-09-2019, 03:42 PM

Originally posted by ChristianRock

I'm not sure what the OP is trying to accomplish... why not join a photography related conversation, instead of continuing this?

The OP has made a mistake by trying to apologize to forum members. Best to learn from it and move forward. No harm has been done. Just see it as a learning opportunity.
I look forward to your input in the future @35mmfilmfan

We are one big happy family here.

ChristianRock · 10-09-2019, 04:27 PM - **3 Likes**

Originally posted by BROO

The OP has made a mistake by trying to apologize to forum members. Best to learn from it and move forward. No harm has been done. Just see it as a learning opportunity.
I look forward to your input in the future @35mmfilmfan

We are one big happy family here.

Here's the thing, he's not apologizing. He's basically saying "sorry you were not smart enough to understand my swipe at the moderation of this forum". Considering the thread he is talking about, and the fact that he is sorry that some people "found it meaningless or obscure", he's basically saying he is sorry he wasn't more clear.

If you consider that an apology... that's ok with me, but it's too much like what politicians say these days...

stevebrot · 10-09-2019, 04:57 PM - **3 Likes**

About an hour ago, I was reading through a recent thread regarding the forum's "Ignore" feature. There was one comment that I found to be fairly amazing. It is copied below in its entirety:

Quote:

Never used ignore list - I prefer to be up close and personal. If someone I meet really antagonises me, I will explain, calmly, that I respect their right to hold an alternative opinion, but that I would appreciate it if they would not waste their breath and my time telling me what it is. If they don't take the hint, I then tell them I look forward to reading their obituary.

Emphasis added.

I then took a few minutes to review that user's recent post history and noticed a few examples of both "up close and personal" and "explain, calmly". That is how I ended up here. My "Ignore" list is pretty short, but now it has a new entry due to my not wanting to risk antagonizing someone with something they don't want to read.

Steve

10-09-2019, 02:23 PM - 2 Likes	#1
35mmfilmfan Pentaxian Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: Norfolk, UK Posts: 4,329	Apologies to those who found my thread about fun meaningless or obscure. Let me explain. There was a recent thread called 'Lets Have Some Fun', in which some comments were made that I found humorous, but apparently others did not. This thread was closed. My own thread (WoW, by the way is a UK term expressing surprise) was intended as an ironic comment on the closure of a thread intended, as stated, as a bit of fun. The 1984 reference was, of course, to the book by George Orwell. I suppose that could have been seen as political. That thread too was closed. Anyway, that's all I meant by that thread - shame some people took it the way I did not intend. My most sincere, humble and abject apologies to those upon whose toes i inadvertently trod.

10-09-2019, 03:14 PM - 3 Likes	#6
MarkJerling Moderator Site Supporter Join Date: May 2012 Location: Wairarapa, New Zealand Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 20,406	Originally posted by 35mmfilmfan Let me explain. There was a recent thread called 'Lets Have Some Fun', in which some comments were made that I found humorous, but apparently others did not. This thread was closed. My own thread (WoW, by the way is a UK term expressing surprise) was intended as an ironic comment on the closure of a thread intended, as stated, as a bit of fun. The 1984 reference was, of course, to the book by George Orwell. I suppose that could have been seen as political. That thread too was closed. Anyway, that's all I meant by that thread - shame some people took it the way I did not intend. My most sincere, humble and abject apologies to those upon whose toes i inadvertently trod. I presume, you mean this thread: Let's have some fun! - PentaxForums.com That became a slugging match between two members so the moderating team decided to close the thread lest it became more personal. You then started a new thread: WoW No more fun - PentaxForums.com where you appeared to take a dig at the moderating team with your 1984 reference. The thread did not provide the context, clearly leaving members confused as to what was being discussed and resulting in further discussions which really served little purpose. A moderator made the decision to close that thread. Now, you have this new thread, for no apparent purpose but to rehash the whole saga. Before I close this one - Can anyone see any point in keeping this up? A little rule reminder: "Although debates and discussions are allowed, we would like to maintain a friendly forum and do not tolerate rudeness, insulting posts, personal attacks or inflammatory posts." "While our rules cover typical forum situations, they cannot anticipate everything. Thus we reserve the right to take any actions we deem appropriate to ensure our website and forum is not disrupted or abused in any way. Several moderators are present on our site to maintain an orderly, friendly forum and to help members adhere to the rules. Moderators attempt to remove any objectionable content posted on site as quickly as possible, and deal with any conflicts between forum members. Any objection to a moderator's course of action or conflicts with other staff members are handled by an appeal process to the site administration." "To discourage threads from going off-topic, general moderator actions, site policies, and forum rules are not to be discussed in threads outside of the site suggestions forum." "Moderator actions pertaining to your own posts may only be discussed privately." Last edited by MarkJerling; 10-09-2019 at 03:45 PM.

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10-09-2019, 02:33 PM - 1 Like	#2
dbs Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Clare Valley S A Photos: Albums Posts: 7,563	Hi Fun is going the way of the dodo nowadays Interpretation has changed alot this century I think I would have enjoyed your thread Dave

10-09-2019, 02:41 PM	#3
ramseybuckeye Site Supporter Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Hampstead, NC Photos: Gallery Posts: 17,291	Don't sweat it, everybody has been misinterpreted now and again.

10-09-2019, 02:53 PM - 1 Like	#4
Kerrowdown PEG Moderator Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Highlands of Scotland... "Hold Infinity in the palm of your hand" - William Blake Photos: Gallery Posts: 57,816	Aye the are lots of new police types in the world, many are self appointed too... PC, fun, speed, drinking, smoking to name but a few, did I mention fun.

10-09-2019, 03:03 PM - 2 Likes	#5
Reality_Check Site Supporter Join Date: Oct 2018 Location: Nashville Photos: Albums Posts: 394	Speed drinking is fun - haven't done that in years!

10-09-2019, 03:20 PM - 1 Like	#7
UncleVanya Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2014 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 28,401	I see it as an apology. I missed the other threads so perhaps I'm naive. Mark I'd let it stand as long as people don't like on. Just my input to your question.

10-09-2019, 03:30 PM	#8
BROO Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2016 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 655	Originally posted by MarkJerling "Although debates and discussions are allowed, we would like to maintain a friendly forum and do not tolerate rudeness, insulting posts, personal attacks or inflammatory posts." Maybe you could add quoting people out of context to that?

10-09-2019, 03:33 PM - 2 Likes	#9
ChristianRock Pentaxian Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: People's Republic of America Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 9,910	I'm not sure what the OP is trying to accomplish... why not join a photography related conversation, instead of continuing this? This has nothing to do with "General Photography" by the way.

10-09-2019, 03:37 PM	#10
MarkJerling Moderator Site Supporter Join Date: May 2012 Location: Wairarapa, New Zealand Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 20,406	Originally posted by BROO Maybe you could add quoting people out of context to that? I'm not sure it's something that can be easily enforced. My suggestion would be that if you feel you're being misquoted, that you simply reply in the thread and add a clarification. If there's an ongoing issue, then please feel free to contact the moderating team.

10-09-2019, 03:38 PM	#11
MarkJerling Moderator Site Supporter Join Date: May 2012 Location: Wairarapa, New Zealand Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 20,406	Originally posted by ChristianRock I'm not sure what the OP is trying to accomplish... why not join a photography related conversation, instead of continuing this? This has nothing to do with "General Photography" by the way. Good point. I'll move it.

10-09-2019, 03:39 PM	#12
tokyoscape Inactive Account Join Date: Oct 2018 Location: Tokyo Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,256	Many time Text conversation is hard to interpret. I haven't read the other thread, by the way.

10-09-2019, 03:42 PM	#13
BROO Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2016 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 655	Originally posted by ChristianRock I'm not sure what the OP is trying to accomplish... why not join a photography related conversation, instead of continuing this? The OP has made a mistake by trying to apologize to forum members. Best to learn from it and move forward. No harm has been done. Just see it as a learning opportunity. I look forward to your input in the future @35mmfilmfan We are one big happy family here.

10-09-2019, 04:27 PM - 3 Likes	#14
ChristianRock Pentaxian Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: People's Republic of America Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 9,910	Originally posted by BROO The OP has made a mistake by trying to apologize to forum members. Best to learn from it and move forward. No harm has been done. Just see it as a learning opportunity. I look forward to your input in the future @35mmfilmfan We are one big happy family here. Here's the thing, he's not apologizing. He's basically saying "sorry you were not smart enough to understand my swipe at the moderation of this forum". Considering the thread he is talking about, and the fact that he is sorry that some people "found it meaningless or obscure", he's basically saying he is sorry he wasn't more clear. If you consider that an apology... that's ok with me, but it's too much like what politicians say these days...

10-09-2019, 04:57 PM - 3 Likes	#15
stevebrot Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Vancouver (USA) Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 42,007	About an hour ago, I was reading through a recent thread regarding the forum's "Ignore" feature. There was one comment that I found to be fairly amazing. It is copied below in its entirety: Quote: Never used ignore list - I prefer to be up close and personal. If someone I meet really antagonises me, I will explain, calmly, that I respect their right to hold an alternative opinion, but that I would appreciate it if they would not waste their breath and my time telling me what it is. If they don't take the hint, I then tell them I look forward to reading their obituary. Emphasis added. I then took a few minutes to review that user's recent post history and noticed a few examples of both "up close and personal" and "explain, calmly". That is how I ended up here. My "Ignore" list is pretty short, but now it has a new entry due to my not wanting to risk antagonizing someone with something they don't want to read. Steve