The Aussie Thread...

surfar · 01-17-2020, 10:34 PM

I usually watch the highlights of the tourDU,I suppose the drone footage will show some of the devastation.

I collect my water off the roof but have it diverted away from the tanks.I want all the ash ect washed away.

Getting rain on burnt ground isn't ideal so the experts have been saying.Apparently the earth seals and the water doesn't absorb...takes a period to become absorbing.Mind you,there's lots of unburnt bush that will take the moisture in.

Liney · 01-18-2020, 01:30 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by surfar

Getting rain on burnt ground isn't ideal so the experts have been saying.Apparently the earth seals and the water doesn't absorb...takes a period to become absorbing.Mind you,there's lots of unburnt bush that will take the moisture in.

I read an interesting, well interesting to me anyway, article that said that intense bushfires can convert Chromium 3 in the soil into Chromium 6. Chromium 6, or Hexavalent Chromium as it is also known, is a carcinogen if inhaled or ingested. I spend a significant percentage of my time trying to sort out the issue of hexavalent chromium which has been used a a corrosion prevention coating since they gave up using lead paint, and now they tell us its in the ground

noelpolar · 01-18-2020, 06:52 AM - **3 Likes**

Originally posted by dbs

Hi Noel
It wasm't too far from Kingscote I think.
Emu Bay is on the north side of island ?

Dave

Yes Dave it is.... not far from Kingscote.

Some Roo love from tonight.

**Digitalis** · 01-19-2020, 03:29 AM - **2 Likes**

Rain has been falling and brought relief to many areas where the fires raged, though too much rainfall after such widespread fires can still do damage to the environment by washing away topsoil.

Disasters like this have plenty of knock-on effects that will be felt for years to come.

Grippy · 01-19-2020, 12:25 PM

Rain overnight which is awesome, hopefully it hits KI to help put out their fires.
We were onthe top of a snow covered volcano last week in NZ, the snow was filthy, the workers said it's from the smoke clouds that have come over from Australia, I also read that the South island is covered too. Amazing that it can travel sooo far.
Everyone we spoke to was concerned about Australia and asking about the fires

surfar · 01-19-2020, 02:25 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Grippy

Rain overnight which is awesome, hopefully it hits KI to help put out their fires.
We were onthe top of a snow covered volcano last week in NZ, the snow was filthy, the workers said it's from the smoke clouds that have come over from Australia, I also read that the South island is covered too. Amazing that it can travel sooo far.
Everyone we spoke to was concerned about Australia and asking about the fires

its been reported in CHILE too.

surfar · 01-21-2020, 06:16 PM

First newspaper I've bought in how knows long but I wanted to read the report.

Horrendous awe-inspiring photos and grim stastitics .

It's 24 pages with the inferno raging and the aftermath.

I just hope we don't see anymore,the recent rain has eased: the intensity.

Now for the latest figures

29 human liveses lost,along with an estimated one billion wildlife lives.

3004 homes destroyed

9.7 m hectares (24,250,000 acres) burnt

Let's all hope it's finished and our government's act to minimise any future catastrophes like this.

Last edited by surfar; 01-21-2020 at 06:23 PM.

**carlb** · 01-21-2020, 06:28 PM

Originally posted by surfar

First newspaper I've bought in how knows long but I wanted to read the report.

Horrendous awe-inspiring photos and grim stastitics .

It's 24 pages with the inferno raging and the aftermath.

I just hope we don't see anymore,the rencent rain has eased: the intensity.

Now for the latest figures

29 human liveses lost,along with an estimated one billion wildlife lives.

3004 homes destroyed

9.7 m hectares (24,250,000 acres) burnt

Let's all hope it's finished and our government's act to minimise any future catastrophes like this.

Naaah, let's have a Royal Commission so we can work out what the previous 57 bushfire inquiries since 1939 have already told us, and we can kick the can down the road for another year.

That's what you get when you've got a marketing guru in charge.

I was surprised to read a story on the ABC yesterday that despite the koala devastation on Kangaroo Island they won't reintroduce any more because they are an introduced species and are considered to be a pest. Digitalis is right that the effects of this catastrophe will be felt for years to come.

dbs · 01-21-2020, 06:30 PM

We can only hope Surfar ..only hope

They have a habit of finding something else to do instead.

Dave

cmohr · 01-21-2020, 07:16 PM

Originally posted by carlb

Naaah, let's have a Royal Commission so we can work out what the previous 57 bushfire inquiries since 1939 have already told us, and we can kick the can down the road for another year.

That's what you get when you've got a marketing guru in charge.

I was surprised to read a story on the ABC yesterday that despite the koala devastation on Kangaroo Island they won't reintroduce any more because they are an introduced species and are considered to be a pest. Digitalis is right that the effects of this catastrophe will be felt for years to come.

The Kangaroo Island Koala's are special, because they are the only population in Australia that are chlamydia free, Introducing Koalas from the Mainland would threaten that status on the Island.

\it's just good to know that the people on the ground there are doing an amazing job at caring for the population that is left, so they can recover .

**carlb** · 01-21-2020, 07:23 PM

Originally posted by cmohr

The Kangaroo Island Koala's are special, because they are the only population in Australia that are chlamydia free, Introducing Koalas from the Mainland would threaten that status on the Island.

\it's just good to know that the people on the ground there are doing an amazing job at caring for the population that is left, so they can recover .

Link for those who are interested:

Repopulation of pest koalas on Kangaroo Island a no-go after bushfires - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

Agreed on the people who are doing what they can to help our wildlife whether in Vic, NSW or SA.

Grippy · 01-22-2020, 01:11 AM

Originally posted by cmohr

The Kangaroo Island Koala's are special, because they are the only population in Australia that are chlamydia free, Introducing Koalas from the Mainland would threaten that status on the Island.

\it's just good to know that the people on the ground there are doing an amazing job at caring for the population that is left, so they can recover .

I believe they were introduced there a while back, they did do pretty well on the island.

noelpolar · 01-22-2020, 02:26 AM - **1 Like**

FWIW... my mates property.... near the south coast road turn off to Seal Bay has a few Koalas.... so there is a bit of natural habitat around still....

Attachment gives some background to the Koalas origin

Unregistered User 8 · 01-23-2020, 01:03 AM - **2 Likes**

Condolences to the families and friends of the 3 American firefighters who lost their lives today protecting/defending our country.

Liney · 01-23-2020, 02:07 AM

It will be interesting in a purely professional capacity to see the crash report on that one, the type of sortie rate these bombers fly will eat into maintenance requirements but the push is always to fly the sortie and sometimes things get missed or periods for servicing get stretched out.

No consolation for the families, but the crew flew these flights because they saw the need and knew the risks

01-19-2020, 02:25 PM - 1 Like	#171
surfar Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: mid nth coast,nsw Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,141	smoke has no boundaries. Originally posted by Grippy Rain overnight which is awesome, hopefully it hits KI to help put out their fires. We were onthe top of a snow covered volcano last week in NZ, the snow was filthy, the workers said it's from the smoke clouds that have come over from Australia, I also read that the South island is covered too. Amazing that it can travel sooo far. Everyone we spoke to was concerned about Australia and asking about the fires its been reported in CHILE too.

01-21-2020, 06:16 PM	#172
surfar Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: mid nth coast,nsw Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,141	Daily Telegraph Bushfire Summary First newspaper I've bought in how knows long but I wanted to read the report. Horrendous awe-inspiring photos and grim stastitics . It's 24 pages with the inferno raging and the aftermath. I just hope we don't see anymore,the recent rain has eased: the intensity. Now for the latest figures 29 human liveses lost,along with an estimated one billion wildlife lives. 3004 homes destroyed 9.7 m hectares (24,250,000 acres) burnt Let's all hope it's finished and our government's act to minimise any future catastrophes like this. Last edited by surfar; 01-21-2020 at 06:23 PM.

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01-17-2020, 10:34 PM	#166
surfar Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: mid nth coast,nsw Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,141	I usually watch the highlights of the tourDU,I suppose the drone footage will show some of the devastation. I collect my water off the roof but have it diverted away from the tanks.I want all the ash ect washed away. Getting rain on burnt ground isn't ideal so the experts have been saying.Apparently the earth seals and the water doesn't absorb...takes a period to become absorbing.Mind you,there's lots of unburnt bush that will take the moisture in.

01-18-2020, 01:30 AM - 1 Like	#167
Liney Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 1,237	Originally posted by surfar Getting rain on burnt ground isn't ideal so the experts have been saying.Apparently the earth seals and the water doesn't absorb...takes a period to become absorbing.Mind you,there's lots of unburnt bush that will take the moisture in. I read an interesting, well interesting to me anyway, article that said that intense bushfires can convert Chromium 3 in the soil into Chromium 6. Chromium 6, or Hexavalent Chromium as it is also known, is a carcinogen if inhaled or ingested. I spend a significant percentage of my time trying to sort out the issue of hexavalent chromium which has been used a a corrosion prevention coating since they gave up using lead paint, and now they tell us its in the ground

01-18-2020, 06:52 AM - 3 Likes	#168
noelpolar Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Goolwa, SA Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,310	Originally posted by dbs Hi Noel It wasm't too far from Kingscote I think. Emu Bay is on the north side of island ? Dave Yes Dave it is.... not far from Kingscote. Some Roo love from tonight.

01-19-2020, 03:29 AM - 2 Likes	#169
Digitalis Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Melbourne, Victoria Photos: Gallery Posts: 11,694	Rain has been falling and brought relief to many areas where the fires raged, though too much rainfall after such widespread fires can still do damage to the environment by washing away topsoil. Disasters like this have plenty of knock-on effects that will be felt for years to come.

01-19-2020, 12:25 PM	#170
Grippy Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: Adelaide Posts: 816	Rain overnight which is awesome, hopefully it hits KI to help put out their fires. We were onthe top of a snow covered volcano last week in NZ, the snow was filthy, the workers said it's from the smoke clouds that have come over from Australia, I also read that the South island is covered too. Amazing that it can travel sooo far. Everyone we spoke to was concerned about Australia and asking about the fires

01-21-2020, 06:28 PM	#173
carlb Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Perth, Western Australia Posts: 1,162	Originally posted by surfar First newspaper I've bought in how knows long but I wanted to read the report. Horrendous awe-inspiring photos and grim stastitics . It's 24 pages with the inferno raging and the aftermath. I just hope we don't see anymore,the rencent rain has eased: the intensity. Now for the latest figures 29 human liveses lost,along with an estimated one billion wildlife lives. 3004 homes destroyed 9.7 m hectares (24,250,000 acres) burnt Let's all hope it's finished and our government's act to minimise any future catastrophes like this. Naaah, let's have a Royal Commission so we can work out what the previous 57 bushfire inquiries since 1939 have already told us, and we can kick the can down the road for another year. That's what you get when you've got a marketing guru in charge. I was surprised to read a story on the ABC yesterday that despite the koala devastation on Kangaroo Island they won't reintroduce any more because they are an introduced species and are considered to be a pest. Digitalis is right that the effects of this catastrophe will be felt for years to come.

01-21-2020, 06:30 PM	#174
dbs Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Clare Valley S A Photos: Albums Posts: 7,563	We can only hope Surfar ..only hope They have a habit of finding something else to do instead. Dave

01-21-2020, 07:16 PM	#175
cmohr Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Brisbane. Australia Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,824	Originally posted by carlb Naaah, let's have a Royal Commission so we can work out what the previous 57 bushfire inquiries since 1939 have already told us, and we can kick the can down the road for another year. That's what you get when you've got a marketing guru in charge. I was surprised to read a story on the ABC yesterday that despite the koala devastation on Kangaroo Island they won't reintroduce any more because they are an introduced species and are considered to be a pest. Digitalis is right that the effects of this catastrophe will be felt for years to come. The Kangaroo Island Koala's are special, because they are the only population in Australia that are chlamydia free, Introducing Koalas from the Mainland would threaten that status on the Island. \it's just good to know that the people on the ground there are doing an amazing job at caring for the population that is left, so they can recover .

01-21-2020, 07:23 PM	#176
carlb Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Perth, Western Australia Posts: 1,162	Originally posted by cmohr The Kangaroo Island Koala's are special, because they are the only population in Australia that are chlamydia free, Introducing Koalas from the Mainland would threaten that status on the Island. \it's just good to know that the people on the ground there are doing an amazing job at caring for the population that is left, so they can recover . Link for those who are interested: Repopulation of pest koalas on Kangaroo Island a no-go after bushfires - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation) Agreed on the people who are doing what they can to help our wildlife whether in Vic, NSW or SA.

01-22-2020, 01:11 AM	#177
Grippy Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: Adelaide Posts: 816	Originally posted by cmohr The Kangaroo Island Koala's are special, because they are the only population in Australia that are chlamydia free, Introducing Koalas from the Mainland would threaten that status on the Island. \it's just good to know that the people on the ground there are doing an amazing job at caring for the population that is left, so they can recover . I believe they were introduced there a while back, they did do pretty well on the island.

01-23-2020, 01:03 AM - 2 Likes	#179
Unregistered User 8 Closed Account Join Date: Mar 2015 Photos: Gallery Posts: 8,694	Condolences to the families and friends of the 3 American firefighters who lost their lives today protecting/defending our country.

01-23-2020, 02:07 AM	#180
Liney Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 1,237	It will be interesting in a purely professional capacity to see the crash report on that one, the type of sortie rate these bombers fly will eat into maintenance requirements but the push is always to fly the sortie and sometimes things get missed or periods for servicing get stretched out. No consolation for the families, but the crew flew these flights because they saw the need and knew the risks