The Aussie Thread...

**carlb** · 01-07-2020, 10:05 PM

When you think of all the possible longer term consequences of these fires, it seems like the really bad stuff is only just starting. On so many levels it's a disaster like we've never faced before.

surfar · 01-07-2020, 10:32 PM - **2 Likes**

Even though a big area has burnt,there is lots that hasn't and that's a worry.

The looters and scammers should be transported,send em to England and return the favour of the first fleet!

In these dire circumstances it's only a few that would stoop that low,they are not worthy to live in this country.

They should get a maximum sentence for whatever breech of the law that get caught for.

Liney · 01-07-2020, 11:11 PM

Originally posted by carlb

On so many levels it's a disaster like we've never faced before.

I disagree, yes the scale in terms of are burnt is greater than recorded bushfires, but the country has recovered bushfires before. If the intensity of the fire has raised the heat to a point that the ground is sterilised then recovery will take longer.

However, the recovery will come about, Australia has been doing it for years.

**carlb** · 01-07-2020, 11:12 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by surfar

In these dire circumstances it's only a few that would stoop that low,they are not worthy to live in this country.

They should get a maximum sentence for whatever breech of the law that get caught for.

Or leave them alone with some of the victims for 10 minutes

---------- Post added 01-08-2020 at 02:17 PM ----------

Originally posted by Liney

I disagree, yes the scale in terms of are burnt is greater than recorded bushfires, but the country has recovered bushfires before. If the intensity of the fire has raised the heat to a point that the ground is sterilised then recovery will take longer.

However, the recovery will come about, Australia has been doing it for years.

I was thinking of the devastation on wildlife (some species may be gone forever) as well as the potential economic consequences (think food shortages, job losses from businesses in some of these towns that will never re-open etc etc) and the effects it will have on communities, effects on water that someone mentioned further back etc etc. It's not just the immediate effect on the areas that have been burnt.

So yes, I do think this will turn out to be one of the greatest disasters we have ever faced as a nation.

**Digitalis** · 01-07-2020, 11:27 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by surfar

They should get a maximum sentence for whatever breech of the law that get caught for.

Originally posted by carlb

leave them alone with some of the victims for 10 minutes

I like the way you think Carlb, though I'd say 5 minutes should just about do it.

surfar · 01-07-2020, 11:55 PM - **2 Likes**

Well ya can't burn them at the stake,there's a fire Ban on!

Grippy · 01-08-2020, 12:28 AM - **2 Likes**

Originally posted by surfar

Well ya can't burn them at the stake,there's a fire Ban on!

Shoot them on site, quick and easy.
Anything else is too good for the scum

surfar · 01-08-2020, 12:46 AM

Death toll at 26 now,please RAIN.

Broome and Darwin are coping cyclones,sometimes those depressions cross our Island,let's hope somewhere with fires get some of that rain.

Sandy Hancock · 01-08-2020, 01:15 AM - **2 Likes**

Although not strictly political, inciting violent vigilantism is not really in the Pentax Forums spirit.

Let's all just settle down a little, eh?

**Digitalis** · 01-08-2020, 01:56 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by surfar

Death toll at 26 now

Originally posted by Sandy Hancock

Let's all just settle down a little, eh?

Exactly, I think we can all agree that the death toll is 26 too many.

Liney · 01-08-2020, 04:02 AM

Originally posted by carlb

So yes, I do think this will turn out to be one of the greatest disasters we have ever faced as a nation.

Well it's not all doom and gloom ?Heartening? photos show bush regrowth on Central Coast after fires

dbs · 01-08-2020, 04:20 AM

We need rain but not too much to erode whats left.
We had a ' small ' bushfire after harvest ( where the farmers burn the stubble ) , the trees 1 yr on are sprouting at the base and some up the whole tree ( I'll post some photos ). The trees have / are discarding the burnt bark and now the hew growth is bursting.

Dave

SSGGeezer · 01-08-2020, 02:31 PM

Where are the juvenile arsonists getting lighters and matches? And where are the parents? Even though the numbers are much smaller than certain figures tweeted out, the actual numbers are disturbing enough!
Police contradict claims spread online exaggerating arson's role in Australian bushfires | Australia news | The Guardian

**James also** · 01-08-2020, 05:39 PM

Originally posted by SSGGeezer

Where are the juvenile arsonists getting lighters and matches? And where are the parents? Even though the numbers are much smaller than certain figures tweeted out,

Arsonists are few and far between thankfully. The major problem is the fact that they are repeat offenders. A bit of a compulsive behavior.

dbs · 01-08-2020, 05:59 PM

Its too hot to go out so I found some shots I took in October after the fire

Sorry for the double up on pic one just a bit impataint I guess

01-08-2020, 01:56 AM - 1 Like	#145
Digitalis Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Melbourne, Victoria Photos: Gallery Posts: 11,694	Originally posted by surfar Death toll at 26 now Originally posted by Sandy Hancock Let's all just settle down a little, eh? Exactly, I think we can all agree that the death toll is 26 too many. Last edited by Digitalis; 01-08-2020 at 02:09 AM.

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01-07-2020, 10:05 PM	#136
carlb Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Perth, Western Australia Posts: 1,162	When you think of all the possible longer term consequences of these fires, it seems like the really bad stuff is only just starting. On so many levels it's a disaster like we've never faced before.

01-07-2020, 10:32 PM - 2 Likes	#137
surfar Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: mid nth coast,nsw Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,141	Even though a big area has burnt,there is lots that hasn't and that's a worry. The looters and scammers should be transported,send em to England and return the favour of the first fleet! In these dire circumstances it's only a few that would stoop that low,they are not worthy to live in this country. They should get a maximum sentence for whatever breech of the law that get caught for.

01-07-2020, 11:11 PM	#138
Liney Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 1,237	Originally posted by carlb On so many levels it's a disaster like we've never faced before. I disagree, yes the scale in terms of are burnt is greater than recorded bushfires, but the country has recovered bushfires before. If the intensity of the fire has raised the heat to a point that the ground is sterilised then recovery will take longer. However, the recovery will come about, Australia has been doing it for years.

01-07-2020, 11:12 PM - 1 Like	#139
carlb Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Perth, Western Australia Posts: 1,162	Originally posted by surfar In these dire circumstances it's only a few that would stoop that low,they are not worthy to live in this country. They should get a maximum sentence for whatever breech of the law that get caught for. Or leave them alone with some of the victims for 10 minutes ---------- Post added 01-08-2020 at 02:17 PM ---------- Originally posted by Liney I disagree, yes the scale in terms of are burnt is greater than recorded bushfires, but the country has recovered bushfires before. If the intensity of the fire has raised the heat to a point that the ground is sterilised then recovery will take longer. However, the recovery will come about, Australia has been doing it for years. I was thinking of the devastation on wildlife (some species may be gone forever) as well as the potential economic consequences (think food shortages, job losses from businesses in some of these towns that will never re-open etc etc) and the effects it will have on communities, effects on water that someone mentioned further back etc etc. It's not just the immediate effect on the areas that have been burnt. So yes, I do think this will turn out to be one of the greatest disasters we have ever faced as a nation.

01-07-2020, 11:27 PM - 1 Like	#140
Digitalis Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Melbourne, Victoria Photos: Gallery Posts: 11,694	Originally posted by surfar They should get a maximum sentence for whatever breech of the law that get caught for. Originally posted by carlb leave them alone with some of the victims for 10 minutes I like the way you think Carlb, though I'd say 5 minutes should just about do it.

01-07-2020, 11:55 PM - 2 Likes	#141
surfar Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: mid nth coast,nsw Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,141	Well ya can't burn them at the stake,there's a fire Ban on!

01-08-2020, 12:28 AM - 2 Likes	#142
Grippy Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: Adelaide Posts: 816	Originally posted by surfar Well ya can't burn them at the stake,there's a fire Ban on! Shoot them on site, quick and easy. Anything else is too good for the scum

01-08-2020, 12:46 AM	#143
surfar Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: mid nth coast,nsw Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,141	Death toll at 26 now,please RAIN. Broome and Darwin are coping cyclones,sometimes those depressions cross our Island,let's hope somewhere with fires get some of that rain.

01-08-2020, 01:15 AM - 2 Likes	#144
Sandy Hancock Moderator Site Supporter Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Adelaide Hills, South Australia Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 11,272	Although not strictly political, inciting violent vigilantism is not really in the Pentax Forums spirit. Let's all just settle down a little, eh?

01-08-2020, 04:02 AM	#146
Liney Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 1,237	Originally posted by carlb So yes, I do think this will turn out to be one of the greatest disasters we have ever faced as a nation. Well it's not all doom and gloom ?Heartening? photos show bush regrowth on Central Coast after fires

01-08-2020, 04:20 AM	#147
dbs Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Clare Valley S A Photos: Albums Posts: 7,563	We need rain but not too much to erode whats left. We had a ' small ' bushfire after harvest ( where the farmers burn the stubble ) , the trees 1 yr on are sprouting at the base and some up the whole tree ( I'll post some photos ). The trees have / are discarding the burnt bark and now the hew growth is bursting. Dave

01-08-2020, 02:31 PM	#148
SSGGeezer Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: Indiana, U.S. Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 4,845	Where are the juvenile arsonists getting lighters and matches? And where are the parents? Even though the numbers are much smaller than certain figures tweeted out, the actual numbers are disturbing enough! Police contradict claims spread online exaggerating arson's role in Australian bushfires \| Australia news \| The Guardian

01-08-2020, 05:39 PM	#149
James also Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Victoria Photos: Gallery Posts: 330	Originally posted by SSGGeezer Where are the juvenile arsonists getting lighters and matches? And where are the parents? Even though the numbers are much smaller than certain figures tweeted out, Arsonists are few and far between thankfully. The major problem is the fact that they are repeat offenders. A bit of a compulsive behavior.

01-08-2020, 05:59 PM	#150
dbs Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Clare Valley S A Photos: Albums Posts: 7,563	Its too hot to go out so I found some shots I took in October after the fire Sorry for the double up on pic one just a bit impataint I guess