What your favorite coffee brand and coffee machine

**aslyfox** · 11-22-2020, 08:37 AM

Originally posted by Mooncatt

, , , here's a little tip:

Never, and I do mean NEVER, drink coffee from a wax paper cup.

I've always avoid Styrofoam cups if I can

not because they won't hold the hot liquid

just a suspicion that there is some type of chemical transfer from the Styrofoam to the liquid which I am drinking

irrational perhaps but better safe than sorry I say

gatorguy · 11-22-2020, 01:11 PM

Originally posted by Hawkfan

Ouch. Holy shmoly. Those Breville units ain't cheap. I dunno, that's the cost of another good used K3 or good lens! Maybe that instant stuff isn't so bad after all. ....Yes it is.

I bought the glass one new from TJ Maxx. I think it was $170 plus sales tax. The
Thermal came from eBay for just $140 and free ship. There's two there now for under $150. Why pay retail?

**Cerebum** · 11-22-2020, 01:16 PM - **1 Like**

I am waiting for my roaster to reopen. It first opened its doors in 1837. Its quite the place

https://thecoffeehopper.com/about-atkinsons-coffee-roasters/

**Mooncatt** · 11-22-2020, 01:31 PM

Originally posted by AgentL

I've done it, I like to live on the edge!

A braver soul than me. Lol

**AgentL** · 11-22-2020, 05:36 PM

Originally posted by aslyfox

I've always avoid Styrofoam cups if I can

not because they won't hold the hot liquid

just a suspicion that there is some type of chemical transfer from the Styrofoam to the liquid which I am drinking

irrational perhaps but better safe than sorry I say

I don't know what the current consensus on Styrofoam cups and health is, but I've always liked drinking hot beverages out of them. The Styrofoam cup with plastic lid with its little fold-up flap, may be a very old-fashioned choice, but I guess I'm just old-fashioned!

gatorguy · 11-23-2020, 12:49 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by AgentL

I don't know what the current consensus on Styrofoam cups and health is, but I've always liked drinking hot beverages out of them. The Styrofoam cup with plastic lid with its little fold-up flap, may be a very old-fashioned choice, but I guess I'm just old-fashioned!

The advice is to avoid it. Styrene, the base material, is now a known carcinogen. For cold drinks it's probably OK but I would totally avoid one for hot drinks like coffee. All things in moderation of course so an occasional one is likely fine. Just don't make a habit of using them for coffee.

EDIT: Here's a fair and constrained article:
http://www.themedicalconcierge.com/is-your-styrofoam-coffee-cup-safe

**ThorSanchez** · 11-24-2020, 05:24 AM

My roaster needs repair, so I went to the grocery store last night to get a few things including coffee. Forgot the coffee. I have no coffee. Sorry, but tea isn't cutting it. It may be a long day.

**pepperberry farm** · 11-24-2020, 05:27 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by ThorSanchez

My roaster needs repair, so I went to the grocery store last night to get a few things including coffee. Forgot the coffee. I have no coffee. Sorry, but tea isn't cutting it. It may be a long day.

that is a full-on RED LEVEL EMERGENCY!!!

my co-workers would chip in for coffee if they had to work with me in that condition....

noelpolar · 11-24-2020, 06:14 AM - **1 Like**

Trying out the new vehicle coffee machine today. I bought a second Pavoni so wife and I don't fight over the home one when I go camping without her.... I added a 1700w inverter in the vehicle to run it.... needs about 90amps from the battery for about 10 minutes or so.... it joins the fridge and small oven.... FA 31 on KP.

gatorguy · 11-24-2020, 09:36 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by noelpolar

Trying out the new vehicle coffee machine today. I bought a second Pavoni so wife and I don't fight over the home one when I go camping without her.... I added a 1700w inverter in the vehicle to run it.... needs about 90amps from the battery for about 10 minutes or so.... it joins the fridge and small oven.... FA 31 on KP.

That's not camping! It's just moving your kitchen outside.

**ThorSanchez** · 11-24-2020, 10:17 AM

Originally posted by noelpolar

Trying out the new vehicle coffee machine today. I bought a second Pavoni so wife and I don't fight over the home one when I go camping without her.... I added a 1700w inverter in the vehicle to run it.... needs about 90amps from the battery for about 10 minutes or so.... it joins the fridge and small oven.... FA 31 on KP.

Do you mean nine amps? There are arc welders that don't need 90 amps. If your coffee machine needs 90 amps this is something I need to see!

**Serkevan** · 11-24-2020, 10:23 AM

Originally posted by ThorSanchez

Do you mean nine amps? There are arc welders that don't need 90 amps. If your coffee machine needs 90 amps this is something I need to see!

You feed it fresh beans and the high current roasts and grinds them down to a nice charcoal powder.

I do electrochemical stuff at work... our reactors have never gone over 60 amps at 12 volts, and that was already a sight to behold until we saw a 10 cm arc lightning through a water splash. We decided never to do those experiments again

**aslyfox** · 11-24-2020, 11:22 AM

Originally posted by gatorguy

The advice is to avoid it. Styrene, the base material, is now a known carcinogen. For cold drinks it's probably OK but I would totally avoid one for hot drinks like coffee. All things in moderation of course so an occasional one is likely fine. Just don't make a habit of using them for coffee. . . . .

I knew it, I knew it

[ even a broken clock ( analogue ) is right twice a day

]

**gofour3** · 11-24-2020, 11:45 AM

I use an Aeropress and get my whole bean coffee from one of the local roasters here in Vancouver. (Single origin/fair trade)

We have numerous really good coffee roasters here and am blessed for choices.

Phil.

**Mooncatt** · 11-24-2020, 12:32 PM

Originally posted by ThorSanchez

Do you mean nine amps? There are arc welders that don't need 90 amps. If your coffee machine needs 90 amps this is something I need to see!

Don't forget, noelpolar mentioned 90A from the battery, so only about 12.5V if the engine isn't running. From what I could find, that machine has a 950W heater, which would be close to 9A on 110V mains power. At 12.5V, it would be close to 80A. Throw in a little overhead due to inverter efficiency losses, and wiring/fusing for a 90A draw sounds about right.

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11-22-2020, 08:37 AM	#211
aslyfox Seeker of Knowledge Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Topeka, Kansas Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 24,581	Originally posted by Mooncatt , , , here's a little tip: Never, and I do mean NEVER, drink coffee from a wax paper cup. I've always avoid Styrofoam cups if I can not because they won't hold the hot liquid just a suspicion that there is some type of chemical transfer from the Styrofoam to the liquid which I am drinking irrational perhaps but better safe than sorry I say

11-22-2020, 01:11 PM	#212
gatorguy Moderator Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Central Florida Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,089	Originally posted by Hawkfan Ouch. Holy shmoly. Those Breville units ain't cheap. I dunno, that's the cost of another good used K3 or good lens! Maybe that instant stuff isn't so bad after all. ....Yes it is. I bought the glass one new from TJ Maxx. I think it was $170 plus sales tax. The Thermal came from eBay for just $140 and free ship. There's two there now for under $150. Why pay retail?

11-22-2020, 01:16 PM - 1 Like	#213
Cerebum Site Supporter Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: Lancaster Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,828	I am waiting for my roaster to reopen. It first opened its doors in 1837. Its quite the place https://thecoffeehopper.com/about-atkinsons-coffee-roasters/

11-22-2020, 01:31 PM	#214
Mooncatt Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: May 2020 Location: Wisconsin Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,372	Originally posted by AgentL I've done it, I like to live on the edge! A braver soul than me. Lol

11-22-2020, 05:36 PM	#215
AgentL Site Supporter Join Date: Sep 2020 Location: Seattle Photos: Albums Posts: 1,754	Originally posted by aslyfox I've always avoid Styrofoam cups if I can not because they won't hold the hot liquid just a suspicion that there is some type of chemical transfer from the Styrofoam to the liquid which I am drinking irrational perhaps but better safe than sorry I say I don't know what the current consensus on Styrofoam cups and health is, but I've always liked drinking hot beverages out of them. The Styrofoam cup with plastic lid with its little fold-up flap, may be a very old-fashioned choice, but I guess I'm just old-fashioned!

11-23-2020, 12:49 PM - 1 Like	#216
gatorguy Moderator Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Central Florida Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,089	Originally posted by AgentL I don't know what the current consensus on Styrofoam cups and health is, but I've always liked drinking hot beverages out of them. The Styrofoam cup with plastic lid with its little fold-up flap, may be a very old-fashioned choice, but I guess I'm just old-fashioned! The advice is to avoid it. Styrene, the base material, is now a known carcinogen. For cold drinks it's probably OK but I would totally avoid one for hot drinks like coffee. All things in moderation of course so an occasional one is likely fine. Just don't make a habit of using them for coffee. EDIT: Here's a fair and constrained article: http://www.themedicalconcierge.com/is-your-styrofoam-coffee-cup-safe

11-24-2020, 05:24 AM	#217
ThorSanchez Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2012 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,804	My roaster needs repair, so I went to the grocery store last night to get a few things including coffee. Forgot the coffee. I have no coffee. Sorry, but tea isn't cutting it. It may be a long day.

11-24-2020, 05:27 AM - 1 Like	#218
pepperberry farm amateur dirt farmer Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: probably out in a field somewhere... Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 41,636	Originally posted by ThorSanchez My roaster needs repair, so I went to the grocery store last night to get a few things including coffee. Forgot the coffee. I have no coffee. Sorry, but tea isn't cutting it. It may be a long day. that is a full-on RED LEVEL EMERGENCY!!! my co-workers would chip in for coffee if they had to work with me in that condition....

11-24-2020, 06:14 AM - 1 Like	#219
noelpolar Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Goolwa, SA Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,310	Trying out the new vehicle coffee machine today. I bought a second Pavoni so wife and I don't fight over the home one when I go camping without her.... I added a 1700w inverter in the vehicle to run it.... needs about 90amps from the battery for about 10 minutes or so.... it joins the fridge and small oven.... FA 31 on KP.

11-24-2020, 09:36 AM - 1 Like	#220
gatorguy Moderator Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Central Florida Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,089	Originally posted by noelpolar Trying out the new vehicle coffee machine today. I bought a second Pavoni so wife and I don't fight over the home one when I go camping without her.... I added a 1700w inverter in the vehicle to run it.... needs about 90amps from the battery for about 10 minutes or so.... it joins the fridge and small oven.... FA 31 on KP. That's not camping! It's just moving your kitchen outside.

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11-24-2020, 10:17 AM	#221
ThorSanchez Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2012 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,804	Originally posted by noelpolar Trying out the new vehicle coffee machine today. I bought a second Pavoni so wife and I don't fight over the home one when I go camping without her.... I added a 1700w inverter in the vehicle to run it.... needs about 90amps from the battery for about 10 minutes or so.... it joins the fridge and small oven.... FA 31 on KP. Do you mean nine amps? There are arc welders that don't need 90 amps. If your coffee machine needs 90 amps this is something I need to see!

11-24-2020, 10:23 AM	#222
Serkevan Site Supporter Join Date: May 2019 Photos: Albums Posts: 5,976	Originally posted by ThorSanchez Do you mean nine amps? There are arc welders that don't need 90 amps. If your coffee machine needs 90 amps this is something I need to see! You feed it fresh beans and the high current roasts and grinds them down to a nice charcoal powder. I do electrochemical stuff at work... our reactors have never gone over 60 amps at 12 volts, and that was already a sight to behold until we saw a 10 cm arc lightning through a water splash. We decided never to do those experiments again

11-24-2020, 11:22 AM	#223
aslyfox Seeker of Knowledge Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Topeka, Kansas Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 24,581	Originally posted by gatorguy The advice is to avoid it. Styrene, the base material, is now a known carcinogen. For cold drinks it's probably OK but I would totally avoid one for hot drinks like coffee. All things in moderation of course so an occasional one is likely fine. Just don't make a habit of using them for coffee. . . . . I knew it, I knew it [ even a broken clock ( analogue ) is right twice a day ]

11-24-2020, 11:45 AM	#224
gofour3 Site Supporter Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Vancouver, Canada Posts: 8,089	I use an Aeropress and get my whole bean coffee from one of the local roasters here in Vancouver. (Single origin/fair trade) We have numerous really good coffee roasters here and am blessed for choices. Phil.

11-24-2020, 12:32 PM	#225
Mooncatt Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: May 2020 Location: Wisconsin Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,372	Originally posted by ThorSanchez Do you mean nine amps? There are arc welders that don't need 90 amps. If your coffee machine needs 90 amps this is something I need to see! Don't forget, noelpolar mentioned 90A from the battery, so only about 12.5V if the engine isn't running. From what I could find, that machine has a 950W heater, which would be close to 9A on 110V mains power. At 12.5V, it would be close to 80A. Throw in a little overhead due to inverter efficiency losses, and wiring/fusing for a 90A draw sounds about right.