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05-17-2020, 02:19 AM   #3586
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Barbers will have plenty of bad haircuts to try to fix!

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Walmart has been sold out of trimmers for a couple weeks.

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Unless I see some pretty convincing evidence against long beards,i'm keeping it.
n95 masks not condidered there won't be.
Facial hair and N95 masks: What you need to know - ABC News
For now, shaving is recommended if you need to wear an N95 respirator and not a surgical mask.

Of course when we consider homemade masks are anywhere from 0-65% effective measuring how a beard interferes is a small concern.
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Our lab has issued surgical masks so the beard stays for now; if we have to move to N95 respirators then I'll open the forbidden box of razors
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QuoteOriginally posted by Serkevan Quote
Our lab has issued surgical masks so the beard stays for now
The lab I have been working in at has the same policy, but not for the reasons most think. Often a cap and mask are used to prevent stray hair,dead skin, saliva from falling into sample wells and contaminating things.

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Now we all know why Adolph Hitler trimmed his mustache the way he did. So a gas mask would seal properly. During WWI a lot of soldiers had the same mustache.
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QuoteOriginally posted by swanlefitte Quote
n95 masks not condidered there won't be.
Facial hair and N95 masks: What you need to know - ABC News
For now, shaving is recommended if you need to wear an N95 respirator and not a surgical mask.

Of course when we consider homemade masks are anywhere from 0-65% effective measuring how a beard interferes is a small concern.
yeah, the article is similar to my other research, I like how it calls a N 95 a " respirator " :

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Facial hair and N95 masks: What you need to know
N95 masks require shaving beards to ensure a good fit.
By Dr. Delaram J. Taghipour April 2, 2020, 9:33 AM

What is an N95 mask?
N-95 masks are typically worn by health care and construction workers. . . . N95 respirator are tight-fitting masks that filter out 95% of particles in the air and reduce exposure from small particle aerosols to large droplets. . . .

In order to wear an N95 respirator effectively, achieving an adequate seal is essential. . . .

"hair under the edge of the mask breaks the seal and makes it useless." . . .

The CDC suggested that loose-fitting surgical masks can be worn by everyday Americans if they feel sick themselves, or if they are caring for a family member or loved one who is sick. Surgical masks help prevent contamination when a person coughs or sneezes .

Unlike N95 respirators that require a close shave, surgical masks don’t. . . .

And having a beard or facial hair does not "trap" the virus closer to your face. Dr. Thomas explained that "the beard shares much of the same flora as facial skin. Therefore, most of the same precautions we take with our face to keep it clean and healthy should also apply to the beard.”

What does all of this mean? For now, shaving is recommended if you need to wear an N95 respirator and not a surgical mask.
consider the harsh facts: you put your neighbors at some risk any time you break " confinement " and leave your home

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Now we all know why Adolph Hitler trimmed his mustache the way he did. So a gas mask would seal properly.
We have gone off on a weird tangent here, but I have to ask: Then why did he maintain it ever since he left the trenches? I was under the impression he did it to make for a more interesting and unique appearance. I'd say his efforts were met with spectacular success for time immemorial sporting a toothbrush mustache is to be considered a definitive fashion faux pax.

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We have gone off on a weird tangent here, but I have to ask: Then why did he maintain it ever since he left the trenches? I was under the impression he did it to make for a more interesting and unique appearance. I'd say his efforts were met with spectacular success for time immemorial sporting a toothbrush mustache is to be considered a definitive fashion faux pax.
the style certainly did not start with him

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. . . its heyday of popularity was from about 1900 to 1945, after which it became associated with Adolf Hitler.

The toothbrush moustache is a moustache style that is shaved at the edges, leaving three to five centimeters of facial hair above the center of the lip. The sides of the moustache are vertical (or nearly vertical) rather than tapered, giving the moustache hairs the appearance of toothbrush bristles that are attached to the nose. It was made famous by such comedians as Charlie Chaplin and Oliver Hardy.The style first became popular in the United States in the late 19th century—from there it spread to Germany and elsewhere—reaching a height of popularity in the inter-war years, before becoming unfashionable after World War II due to its association with German Nazi leader Adolf Hitler. . . .
Toothbrush moustache - Wikipedia
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QuoteOriginally posted by Digitalis Quote
We have gone off on a weird tangent here, but I have to ask: Then why did he maintain it ever since he left the trenches? I was under the impression he did it to make for a more interesting and unique appearance. For time immemorial sporting a toothbrush mustache is to be considered a supreme fashion faux pax.
It was a message to the people that he too was a soldier fighting for Germany. Hitler was probably the first media sensations. He had an acting coach and his speeches were scripted and rehearsed down to the timing, phrasing and movements he would make. Some years ago I read a book on Hitler's rise to power. It is scary how easy it is to get the sheeple to do what you want them too. That is why a full out democracy is such a dangerous thing. It leads to chaos and history has shown that the masses prefer tyranny to anarchy. Scare the people a bit and it them becomes easy to control then in the name of keeping them safe. A lot of this going on currently.


Hitler was helped in his rise to power by both the military and the heads of industry in Germany. He even had many wealthy Jewish supporters. They all made the mistake of thinking that they could control him once he got into a position of power. Another common mistake made throughout history.


Because Russia attacked Finland, it allied with Germany against a common foe. Hitler visited Mannerheim in Finland and they had a series of talks on a private railroad car. The Finns were audacious enough to actually bug the car. Those tapes are the only recording of Hitler using his normal voice. Quite a sharp contrast to the recordings of him on the rostrum.

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*ahem* my mustache covers my mouth, in a way I have a built in mask preventing particulates from entering or exiting my mouth. Unfortunately It makes eating and drinking somewhat undignified...

Unless I see some pretty convincing evidence against long beards,i'm keeping it.
I refuse to alter or remove my machismo.









When wearing the mask:

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I refuse to alter or remove my machismo.
I tried plaiting my beard like that but I could never get it to look symmetrical.
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I tried plaiting my beard like that but I could never get it to look symmetrical.
Patience.

Lots of patience.

And cultivation of the crop. Daily nipping and trimming. Like bonsai.

I find that when it is braided I get more comments from men, and when it is loose I get more comments from women.

Lately, having to wear a mask all day at work, I leave it loose, as I use pomade to hold the braids, and don't want that to foul the mask. One of the women at work commented it looked like a billy goat's beard.

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Has anyone else wondered why the headlines on hog farms is overwhelmingly, " forced to kill hogs"? That was the plan anyway. "Dispose of" seems what they realy mean. Do they mean the effort to kill them? Killing isn't part of the story. When I see this headline, i will not read the article but will search for a competitors article that doesn't focus on an irrelevant, emotional word. It has become harder to find an article on covid to read.
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Has anyone else wondered why the headlines on hog farms is overwhelmingly, " forced to kill hogs"? That was the plan anyway. "Dispose of" seems what they realy mean. Do they mean the effort to kill them? Killing isn't part of the story. When I see this headline, i will not read the article but will search for a competitors article that doesn't focus on an irrelevant, emotional word. It has become harder to find an article on covid to read.
the plan of the farmer is to sell the animals to others who will do the dirty deed

what is happening is that the farmer is losing the investment in the livestock by not being able to sell the animal at the right time

if the animal gets too big, it has no market value

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In happier news. Yellowstone Nation Park will partially open tomorrow at noon. There will be access to the park from the south and east exits and driving will be limited to the southern loop only. Info on the Yellowstone NP web site. Entrances into the park from Idaho and Montana are still closed. It would not surprise me if the first visitors see a lot more wildlife than normal as the park has been pretty much empty since March.
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