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05-24-2020, 12:59 AM - 1 Like   #3751
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In Germany we had churches reopen. In Frankfurt a reopened church now has 40 new confirmed contagion cases.

Restaurants were reopened. Some morons used it to party in one instance. Now 66 had to be sent to quarantine as seven participants were already tested positive.

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A hairstylist in Missouri saw dozens of clients this month while sick with coronavirus. Despite showing symptoms, the stylist went to work for over a week in May, exposing as many as 91 people to COVID-19. Both the stylist and clients were wearing face coverings during the appointments. In addition to going to work, the stylist also went to a Dairy Queen, Walmart and fitness center.
report now says it was two stylists at the same location:
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A second hairdresser working at Great Clips in Springfield, Missouri, has tested positive for COVID-19 and has potentially exposed the virus to clients, Missouri health officials said.

The Springfield-Greene County Health Department said on Saturday that a second stylist tested positive for the coronavirus and worked from May 16 to May 20 while having “very mild symptoms” but was “potentially infectious,” according to a press release.

“At this time, this is the only other positive result we have had from those tested as a result of the previous exposure,” the department wrote in the release. . . .

The stylist potentially exposed 56 clients and all those involved were wearing face coverings, according to the department. The clients will be alerted by the Health Department and offered COVID-19 testing, according to the release.
Read more here: https://www.kansascity.com/news/coronavirus/article242962271.html#storylink=cpy

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https://www.springfieldmo.gov/CivicAlerts.aspx?

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https://www.springfieldmo.gov/CivicAlerts.aspx?fbclid=IwAR1ptpl9gAo...NDvys2kiDhfoBw

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Restaurants were reopened. Some morons used it to party in one instance. Now 66 had to be sent to quarantine as seven participants were already tested positive.
That was the restaurant in Leer right? I read the news yesterday but it only said they were "investigating if the customers and staff following proper rules", do you have a link to it?
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Several people who attended a high school swim party in Arkansas have contracted Covid-19, Gov. Asa Hutchinson told reporters on Saturday. "A high school swim party that I'm sure everybody thought was harmless. They're young, they're swimming, they're just having activity and positive cases resulted from that," Hutchinson said.

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more information from the State of Arkansas:

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By KY3 Staff | Posted: Sat 2:00 PM, May 23, 2020 LITTLE ROCK, Ark. -- Arkansas Gov. Asa Hutchinson says the state is seeing a second "peak" in COVID-19 cases, nearly 30 days since the state's first peak.

Hutchinson says the peak comes after a record-level of testing across the state. Many businesses shuttered due to the pandemic have also reopened.

On Saturday, the health department reported 163 new cases, raising the state's total to 5,775. Arkansas has reported single-day increases of at least 150 for the last three days, which includes a single-day high of 455 new cases reported Thursday.

Gov. Hutchinson also cited hospitalizations trends. The state has 86 people hospitalized due to COVID-19, but Hutchinson says many positive cases are "not very ill."

Arkansas health officials reported 154 new cases Friday, after a single-day high Thursday of more than 400. These are the latest reported numbers:
-5,775 cases in the state (163 new)
-86 hospitalizations (5 new)
-115 reported deaths (2 new)
-1,564 active cases
-4,096 recoveries
Gov. Hutchinson says Arkansans will need to continue to be disciplined with their personal safety habits in response to the pandemic.
Arkansas seeing second peak of COVID-19 cases, Gov. Hutchinson says
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Earlier this month, at least 180 people were exposed to the novel coronavirus in California when a person who tested positive for Covid-19 attended a religious service on Mother's Day.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Serkevan Quote
That was the restaurant in Leer right? I read the news yesterday but it only said they were "investigating if the customers and staff following proper rules", do you have a link to it?
Here's a link for you: German COVID-19 outbreak traced to restaurant | News | DW | 23.05.2020

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Thanks a lot! I don't know how I forgot to check DW
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QuoteOriginally posted by Serkevan Quote
That was the restaurant in Leer right? I read the news yesterday but it only said they were "investigating if the customers and staff following proper rules", do you have a link to it?
here: 70 quarantined, 11 sick already (of 40 guests)

Kreis Leer: Gibt es unbekannte Kontaktpersonen? | NDR.de - Nachrichten - Niedersachsen

The cool part is the guy responsible claims he followed all rules. Which would mean the rules are way too lax, since they did not stop what they are meant to stop. The restaurant lobby is unhappy.
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Yeah, either they admit that they didn't follow the rules properly (which means more oversight is needed and the fines will be appropriately harsh) or the rules are clearly insufficient and they will be tightened. Either way, the restaurants will be negatively impacted. Personally, fine the heck out of everyone who doesn't manage to follow very simple rules.
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There is an old saying perhaps from the French revolution. Don't worry about your hair when your neck is on the line. Seems appropriate now.
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QuoteOriginally posted by SpecialK Quote
Earlier this month, at least 180 people were exposed to the novel coronavirus in California when a person who tested positive for Covid-19 attended a religious service on Mother's Day.
How many caught it?

How many got sick?


How many had to be hospitalized?

How many died?


Like it or not, there is no way to avoid exposure at some point. It is acting just like the myriad of other viruses that we come in contact with in our daily lives. Most are harmless. A few not so much. Some viruses that are harmful to one may not be harmful to another. Just part of the risks we take every day as we go about our lives.


Local news story. Person's elderly mother died in a nursing home. Death certificate reads that she died of COVID-19 even though she was never tested for it. She was told that the procedure is to attribute the death to COVID-19 if the person gets sick. In the US, medical care facilities do get some compensation from the government for each patient who dies of COVID-19. Just one of many questionable things going on around this pandemic.


People keep saying that science is correct, but science fails for want of good data and proper, unbiased interpretation of the data available. Of course science is not always correct either. If the science of the mid 1970's was correct, by now, the ice would be over a kilometer thick where I live. I do not see anything like that happening soon. At least according to current scientific thought.
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QuoteOriginally posted by gaweidert Quote
People keep saying that science is correct, but science fails for want of good data and proper, unbiased interpretation of the data available. Of course science is not always correct either. If the science of the mid 1970's was correct, by now, the ice would be over a kilometer thick where I live. I do not see anything like that happening soon. At least according to current scientific thought.
If the people of the mid 70s hadn't stopped releasing metric tons of sulfur compounds into the atmosphere we would have other bigger problems before the ice got thick .


I'll take any alternative to science that works better, feel free to name one.
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Thanks a lot! I don't know how I forgot to check DW
No problem!
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QuoteOriginally posted by gaweidert Quote
. . . How many died? . . .

Local news story. Person's elderly mother died in a nursing home. Death certificate reads that she died of COVID-19 even though she was never tested for it. She was told that the procedure is to attribute the death to COVID-19 if the person gets sick. In the US, medical care facilities do get some compensation from the government for each patient who dies of COVID-19. Just one of many questionable things going on around this pandemic. . . .
rumors create legends, myths and conspiracies

if a person is surviving with a pre existing condition and covid 19 causes it to become worse or

if a person dies having the virus and develops, for example, pneumonia

what did the person die from ?

one might say as a result of the virus

one might say not

are deaths being overcounted or undercounted

death rates have risen

or is that another rumor ?
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