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03-25-2020, 03:50 PM   #61
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QuoteOriginally posted by aslyfox Quote
sounds similar to one way of making a very very dry martini

just show the mixture a photo of a bottle of dry vermouth
One variant of that was to rinse the glass with vermouth and tip it out before adding the rest. But waving a teabag at a mug of hot water? Just serve hot water, why don’t you! I like to taste tea with my milk and sugar.

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. . . I like to taste tea with my milk and sugar.
me too - 5 minute wait after adding boiling water to the cup and tea bag

never have added milk to my tea

may have to try that
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One variant of that was to rinse the glass with vermouth and tip it out before adding the rest. But waving a teabag at a mug of hot water? Just serve hot water, why don’t you! I like to taste tea with my milk and sugar.
I generally can't drink tea or coffee with sugar, honey or sweetener. I want to taste the tannins in the tea, and the slight bitterness in the coffee. Then again, I can't stand most dessert wines, either, unless they're very carefully paired with certain desserts - but then, I'm not really one for sweet desserts... usually, I go for the cheese board I could gulp down a sweet tea after a long walk in rough weather, if I was tired and needed perking up - but it would be for the restorative effect rather than enjoyment. Otherwise, give me a well-brewed tea with a splash of (ideally full-fat) milk, and absolutely no sugar...

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One variant of that was to rinse the glass with vermouth and tip it out before adding the rest. But waving a teabag at a mug of hot water? Just serve hot water, why don’t you! I like to taste tea with my milk and sugar.
It must be homeopathic tea. The less contact the teabag has with the water the better it is.



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QuoteOriginally posted by aslyfox Quote
me too - 5 minute wait after adding boiling water to the cup and tea bag

never have added milk to my tea

may have to try that
"GOOD" tea MUST be made with BOILING HOT water - otherwise "why even bother"?

PS: OTOH, I do like really "strong" "Americun" coffee, with or without milk - but can't seem to find that here in the "old country"

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". . . BOILING HOT water. . .
never have experienced any other type of boiling water

is there cold water that is boiling ?
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never have experienced any other type of boiling water

is there cold water that is boiling ?
Yes if the pressure is low enough.



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never have experienced any other type of boiling water

is there cold water that is boiling ?
Not "generally", but there is tea made with "cold water" - absolutely undrinkable (as is "iced tea"!)!
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Yes if the pressure is low enough.
Valid point.
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Yes if the pressure is low enough.
touché

but would the water ever be truly cold ?
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One of the most significant changes that occur in high altitude areas concerning cooking is the boiling point of water. As the altitude increases, the atmospheric pressure pushing down on water decreases, which allows the water to boil at lower temperatures.

Altitude ft. (meters) Boiling Point - Fahrenheit Boiling Point - Celsius
0 ft. (0 m.) 212 ºF 100 ºC
500 ft. (152 m.) 211 ºF 99.5 ºC
1000 ft (305 m.) 210 ºF 99 ºC
1500 ft. (457 m.) 209 ºF 98.5 ºC
2000 ft. (610 m.) 208 ºF 98 ºC
2500 ft. (762 m.) 207 ºF 97.5 ºC
3000 ft (914 m.) 206 ºF 97 ºC
3500 ft. (1067 m.) 205.5 ºF 96 ºC
4000 ft. (1219 m.) 204 ºF 95.5 ºC
4500 ft. (1372 m.) 203.5 ºF 95 ºC
5000 ft. (1524 m.) 202 ºF 94.5 ºC
5500 ft. (1676 m.) 201.5 ºF 94 ºC
6000 ft. (1829 m.) 200.5 ºF 93.5 ºC
6500 ft. (1981 m.) 199.5 ºF 93 ºC
7000 ft. (2134 m.) 198.5 ºF 92.5 ºC
7500 ft. (2286 m.) 198 ºF 92 ºC
8000 ft. (2438 m.) 197 ºF 91.5 ºC
8500 ft. (2591 m.) 196 ºF 91 ºC
9000 ft. (2743 m.) 195 ºF 90.5 ºC
9500 ft. (2895 m.) 194 ºF 90 ºC
10000 ft. (3048 m.) 193 ºF 89.5 ºC
https://www.thespruceeats.com/boiling-points-of-water-1328760

Topeka is officially 945 feet above sea level

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10g Sun dried Lemon Myrtle leaves*, finely crushed.
30g Daintree black tea.
Brew for 2~4 mins @ 100°C
Add few drops of Blue gum Honey to taste.
coffee
Perfection, and about as Australian as it gets.

*Backhousia citriodora, not to be confused with Aloysia citrodora - but it can be used as a substitute.

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QuoteOriginally posted by aslyfox Quote
touché

but would the water ever be truly cold ?
https://www.thespruceeats.com/boiling-points-of-water-1328760

Topeka is officially 945 feet above sea level
Why not?

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not quite sure, outside a lab and special equipment, where I will be finding an area of absolute vacuum

so no touche this time from me

QuoteOriginally posted by jeallen01 Quote
Not "generally", but there is tea made with "cold water" - absolutely undrinkable (as is "iced tea"!)!
I will drink iced tea but never iced coffee

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not quite sure, outside a lab and special equipment where I will be running into an area of absolute vacuum



so no touche this time from me
Space? The boiling point at the summit of Everest is 71 Celsius so no point in taking tea bags with you.

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Space? The boiling point at the summit of Everest is 71 Celsius so no point in taking tea bags with you.
Space

have you been there lately ?


71 C is 159.8 F

not my idea of " cold "
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