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dws1117 · 10-31-2008, 07:38 PM

Heck I'll even take serious answers.

I know that this is a Pentax forum. but what is it so wrong to say the names Canon and Nikon. I see post after post with people censoring those words. Will the sky fall? Will our computers explode? Are we afraid that out Pentax products my think that we are cheating one them and get jealous? Did I miss where is says someplace that as a condition of forum membership that we not say/type those words? It's a fact. Those other cameras are out there. Am I weird for not feeling dirty when I type Canon or Nikon?

Now, to be fair I've never seen any post where someone was called out or punched in a kidney for typing those words.

Have fun with this, or not. Your choice.

Ole · 10-31-2008, 07:42 PM

I have no idea. Perhaps to prevent search engines from picking up on the post? But that serves no purpose. It would only be good if canikon people browsed this forum and learned that there's a (better, of course(!)) world outside of theirs!

ve2vfd · 10-31-2008, 07:47 PM

It's because they are 2 of the words the Knight Who Say Nee! cannot bear to hear!

You have no idea how much pain you caused them with your post!

Pat

Clicker · 10-31-2008, 07:58 PM

Originally posted by ve2vfd

It's because they are 2 of the words the Knight Who Say Nee! cannot bear to hear!

You have no idea how much pain you caused them with your post!

Pat

ROFLM*O <self-edited>

It's i suppose the civil way to identify them unlike how Pentax is described on some other forums i've read

ryan s · 10-31-2008, 09:07 PM

^ You mean like how Ken Rockwell tests and brands the best cameras with Nikon, and the second best are Canon. Everything else isn't up to Ken's standards...that's how Pentax was created?

vievetrick · 11-01-2008, 05:20 AM

what Ole said.

ftpaddict · 11-01-2008, 05:31 AM

Canon make great cameras!
Nikon make great cameras!
Pentax make great cameras!
Olympus make great cameras!
Sony I'm not so convinced about, but I'm sure their cameras good in some way too!
Leica grasp onto an outdated system but their cameras are great!

There you go. I've told you my honest opinion.

Matter of choice much?

woof · 11-01-2008, 06:02 AM

Originally posted by dws1117

Those other cameras are out there. Am I weird for not feeling dirty when I type Canon or Nikon?

Nope. Brand loyalty that runs to the exclusion of other brands is a form of self-imposed ignorance. I don't know how anyone can say Brand A is better than B or C if they have never really used one. Yet it happens all the time. How do you know? "I just do." or worse "The undernagomometer has kerflooie kerplopoflops per frame... it MUST be better!"

Oh, OK. Must be true for me too. (Not!)

I collect old cameras. I love my old Pentaxes and use them quite a lot. But I also have a collection of Nikon F cameras. I use them and their (very nice) glass as well. It actually gives me a platform from which to confirm that the old Takumar glass truly is world-class. It also gives me a platform from which to understand well why Nikon was embraced early on as a professional standard. They both have their wonderful points and I just love using all of them.

I suspect that people who engage in feeling superior based upon their camera equipment are quite the opposite. I am guessing, that is, that they are getting all they need WITHOUT using their equipment. As for me, I'll let others argue the merits and I'll use the camera that best suits the task, or better yet use the camera I happen to have and do the best possible job I can with the tool in hand.

woof!

ChrisA · 11-01-2008, 06:34 AM

Originally posted by woof

I suspect that people who engage in feeling superior based upon their camera equipment are quite the opposite. I am guessing, that is, that they are getting all they need WITHOUT using their equipment. As for me, I'll let others argue the merits and I'll use the camera that best suits the task, or better yet use the camera I happen to have and do the best possible job I can with the tool in hand.

Just thought this exceptionally astute observation deserves a loud "hear, hear".

séamuis · 11-01-2008, 07:22 AM

Quote:

It also gives me a platform from which to understand well why Nikon was embraced early on as a professional standard.

I had the same realization the first time I held a Nikon F Photomic T. that damn camera oozes proffesionalism in every way possible. brilliantly rugged piece of engineering, despite the fact that the add on lightmeter looks horribly goofy and destroys the lines of the camera. brilliant though...

mfc · 11-01-2008, 08:02 PM

Originally posted by ftpaddict

Canon make great cameras!
Nikon make great cameras!
Pentax make great cameras!
Olympus make great cameras!
Sony I'm not so convinced about, but I'm sure their cameras good in some way too!
Leica grasp onto an outdated system but their cameras are great!

There you go. I've told you my honest opinion.

Matter of choice much?

they dont like those words cause theve chosen pentax

SpecialK · 11-01-2008, 09:54 PM

Originally posted by dws1117

Heck I'll even take serious answers.

I know that this is a Pentax forum. but what is it so wrong to say the names Canon and Nikon. I see post after post with people censoring those words. Will the sky fall? Will our computers explode? Are we afraid that out Pentax products my think that we are cheating one them and get jealous? Did I miss where is says someplace that as a condition of forum membership that we not say/type those words? It's a fact. Those other cameras are out there. Am I weird for not feeling dirty when I type Canon or Nikon?

Now, to be fair I've never seen any post where someone was called out or punched in a kidney for typing those words.

Have fun with this, or not. Your choice.

It is an old joke and/or we don't want to legitimize them by mentioning their name.

reeftool · 11-02-2008, 11:28 AM

Beats me. I have Canon printers and a Canon digital camcorder and I am happy with them. I have never owned a Canon SLR so I can't really comment. I needed a weather sealed camera and the Canon and Nikon models cost twice as much. I am also very happy with my K10D as I have been with Pentax film cameras. I had a Nikon film SLR that broke a lot so that left a bad taste in my mouth for Nikon. Many pros use Nikon and i'm sure if they were unreliable they would not use them so my experience was probably a fluke. Just about every DSLR out there is quite capable. The PHOTOGRAPHER takes the picture. If he/she uses the camera right it will be a good picture.

ve2vfd · 11-02-2008, 11:57 AM

Hey! HEY!!!

He asked for STUPID answers! I don't see stupid answers up there... come on folks, lets get stupid here!

Pat

dws1117 · 11-02-2008, 12:13 PM

Originally posted by ve2vfd

Hey! HEY!!!

He asked for STUPID answers! I don't see stupid answers up there... come on folks, lets get stupid here!

Pat

I did ask for both, but I really did expect more sarcasm and smart *** comments from this bunch!

10-31-2008, 07:38 PM	#1
dws1117 Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Spring, TX. Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,157	Stupid question. Looking for stupid answer. Heck I'll even take serious answers. I know that this is a Pentax forum. but what is it so wrong to say the names Canon and Nikon. I see post after post with people censoring those words. Will the sky fall? Will our computers explode? Are we afraid that out Pentax products my think that we are cheating one them and get jealous? Did I miss where is says someplace that as a condition of forum membership that we not say/type those words? It's a fact. Those other cameras are out there. Am I weird for not feeling dirty when I type Canon or Nikon? Now, to be fair I've never seen any post where someone was called out or punched in a kidney for typing those words. Have fun with this, or not. Your choice.

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10-31-2008, 07:42 PM	#2
Ole Administrator Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Copenhagen, Denmark Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 4,409	I have no idea. Perhaps to prevent search engines from picking up on the post? But that serves no purpose. It would only be good if canikon people browsed this forum and learned that there's a (better, of course(!)) world outside of theirs!

10-31-2008, 07:47 PM	#3
ve2vfd Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Montreal, Canada Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,433	It's because they are 2 of the words the Knight Who Say Nee! cannot bear to hear! You have no idea how much pain you caused them with your post! Pat

10-31-2008, 07:58 PM	#4
Clicker Veteran Member Join Date: May 2008 Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,241	Originally posted by ve2vfd It's because they are 2 of the words the Knight Who Say Nee! cannot bear to hear! You have no idea how much pain you caused them with your post! Pat ROFLM*O <self-edited> It's i suppose the civil way to identify them unlike how Pentax is described on some other forums i've read

10-31-2008, 09:07 PM	#5
ryan s Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Madison, WI Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,383	^ You mean like how Ken Rockwell tests and brands the best cameras with Nikon, and the second best are Canon. Everything else isn't up to Ken's standards...that's how Pentax was created?

11-01-2008, 05:20 AM	#6
vievetrick Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Easthampton - Massachusetts - USA Photos: Gallery Posts: 5,183	what Ole said.

11-01-2008, 05:31 AM	#7
ftpaddict Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Yurp Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,666	Canon make great cameras! Nikon make great cameras! Pentax make great cameras! Olympus make great cameras! Sony I'm not so convinced about, but I'm sure their cameras good in some way too! Leica grasp onto an outdated system but their cameras are great! There you go. I've told you my honest opinion. Matter of choice much?

11-01-2008, 06:02 AM	#8
woof Inactive Account Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: In the present Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,870	Originally posted by dws1117 Those other cameras are out there. Am I weird for not feeling dirty when I type Canon or Nikon? Nope. Brand loyalty that runs to the exclusion of other brands is a form of self-imposed ignorance. I don't know how anyone can say Brand A is better than B or C if they have never really used one. Yet it happens all the time. How do you know? "I just do." or worse "The undernagomometer has kerflooie kerplopoflops per frame... it MUST be better!" Oh, OK. Must be true for me too. (Not!) I collect old cameras. I love my old Pentaxes and use them quite a lot. But I also have a collection of Nikon F cameras. I use them and their (very nice) glass as well. It actually gives me a platform from which to confirm that the old Takumar glass truly is world-class. It also gives me a platform from which to understand well why Nikon was embraced early on as a professional standard. They both have their wonderful points and I just love using all of them. I suspect that people who engage in feeling superior based upon their camera equipment are quite the opposite. I am guessing, that is, that they are getting all they need WITHOUT using their equipment. As for me, I'll let others argue the merits and I'll use the camera that best suits the task, or better yet use the camera I happen to have and do the best possible job I can with the tool in hand. woof!

11-01-2008, 06:34 AM	#9
ChrisA Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: London Posts: 393	Originally posted by woof I suspect that people who engage in feeling superior based upon their camera equipment are quite the opposite. I am guessing, that is, that they are getting all they need WITHOUT using their equipment. As for me, I'll let others argue the merits and I'll use the camera that best suits the task, or better yet use the camera I happen to have and do the best possible job I can with the tool in hand. Just thought this exceptionally astute observation deserves a loud "hear, hear".

11-01-2008, 07:22 AM	#10
séamuis Banned Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Savannah, U.S./Baguio City, P.H. Posts: 5,979	Quote: It also gives me a platform from which to understand well why Nikon was embraced early on as a professional standard. I had the same realization the first time I held a Nikon F Photomic T. that damn camera oozes proffesionalism in every way possible. brilliantly rugged piece of engineering, despite the fact that the add on lightmeter looks horribly goofy and destroys the lines of the camera. brilliant though...

11-01-2008, 08:02 PM	#11
mfc Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: melbourne Posts: 146	Originally posted by ftpaddict Canon make great cameras! Nikon make great cameras! Pentax make great cameras! Olympus make great cameras! Sony I'm not so convinced about, but I'm sure their cameras good in some way too! Leica grasp onto an outdated system but their cameras are great! There you go. I've told you my honest opinion. Matter of choice much? they dont like those words cause theve chosen pentax

11-01-2008, 09:54 PM	#12
SpecialK Pentaxian Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: So California Photos: Gallery Posts: 16,482	Originally posted by dws1117 Heck I'll even take serious answers. I know that this is a Pentax forum. but what is it so wrong to say the names Canon and Nikon. I see post after post with people censoring those words. Will the sky fall? Will our computers explode? Are we afraid that out Pentax products my think that we are cheating one them and get jealous? Did I miss where is says someplace that as a condition of forum membership that we not say/type those words? It's a fact. Those other cameras are out there. Am I weird for not feeling dirty when I type Canon or Nikon? Now, to be fair I've never seen any post where someone was called out or punched in a kidney for typing those words. Have fun with this, or not. Your choice. It is an old joke and/or we don't want to legitimize them by mentioning their name.

11-02-2008, 11:28 AM	#13
reeftool Pentaxian Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Upstate New York Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 9,555	Beats me. I have Canon printers and a Canon digital camcorder and I am happy with them. I have never owned a Canon SLR so I can't really comment. I needed a weather sealed camera and the Canon and Nikon models cost twice as much. I am also very happy with my K10D as I have been with Pentax film cameras. I had a Nikon film SLR that broke a lot so that left a bad taste in my mouth for Nikon. Many pros use Nikon and i'm sure if they were unreliable they would not use them so my experience was probably a fluke. Just about every DSLR out there is quite capable. The PHOTOGRAPHER takes the picture. If he/she uses the camera right it will be a good picture.

11-02-2008, 11:57 AM	#14
ve2vfd Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Montreal, Canada Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,433	Hey! HEY!!! He asked for STUPID answers! I don't see stupid answers up there... come on folks, lets get stupid here! Pat

11-02-2008, 12:13 PM	#15
dws1117 Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Spring, TX. Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,157 Original Poster	Originally posted by ve2vfd Hey! HEY!!! He asked for STUPID answers! I don't see stupid answers up there... come on folks, lets get stupid here! Pat I did ask for both, but I really did expect more sarcasm and smart *** comments from this bunch!

Stupid question. Looking for stupid answer.

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