My favourite word - "Lense" and possibly other typos

dbs · 07-09-2020, 05:45 PM

Originally posted by bxf

This is a slight detour from the purpose of this thread, but I'll include it for entertainment, if nothing else.

I learned my English in Canada, where a TV that is not B&W is a "colour TV", and a house with five bedrooms is a five bedroom house. Once in the land of OZ, I got more exposure to UK English, so that the TV is now a "coloured TV", and the house is a "five bedroomed house".

I always find myself asking "did someone colour the TV", and "who bedroomed the house?". Oh well...

I guess all bedrooms are not the same .... i must have been cheated I've only got 4, but there is a tv / monitor in each

Wheatfield · 07-09-2020, 06:03 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by stevebrot

According to Merriam-Webster, "inflammable" is the older word and is derived directly from the Latin "inflammare", a verb meaning "to cause to catch fire". A few hundred years later, in the early 1800's, someone figured out that derivation from "flammare" (also a verb, "to catch fire") was more correct, hence the birth of "flammable" in English. The dictionary folk say they are synonyms. I tend to use "flammable".

Your reference to the medical "inflammation" is an interesting extension that I will have to ponder. I have never seen "inflammable" used in a medical sense (prone or capable of inflammation).

Steve

I don’t know about other parts of the world, but where I am tanker trucks carrying a non combustible load generally are marked “ininflammable”

---------- Post added Jul 9th, 2020 at 07:10 PM ----------

Originally posted by stevebrot

Might it be because that is how they spell it? (Aluminium everywhere except U.S. and Canada)

Steve

I believe we spell it “aluminium”. It’s you Yankees that like to cut out superfluous letters.

---------- Post added Jul 9th, 2020 at 07:14 PM ----------

Originally posted by Parallax

Ooh, that's a good one.
A battery, in the DC electrical context, is a group of cells. A "lens" (lense

) in the photographic context, is a group of lenses.

I may be mistaken, but it’s several lens elements arranged in groups.

---------- Post added Jul 9th, 2020 at 07:17 PM ----------

Originally posted by SSGGeezer

Just one in ten, eh?

Yup. It is often used in place of annihilate.

noelpolar · 07-09-2020, 06:23 PM

Originally posted by slartibartfast01

Is "deduct" another example of not conforming?

Yes.... but not so much the spelling... more a case of just how much one feels compelled by societies norms to correct typos, auto correct things etc.

dbs · 07-09-2020, 06:28 PM - **3 Likes**

If we were all just given a babel fish then none of this would happen

maw · 07-09-2020, 06:29 PM

Originally posted by Wheatfield

I don’t know about other parts of the world, but where I am tanker trucks carrying a non combustible load generally are marked “ininflammable”

As with most terms, it is Greek and Latin, in Latin it is ignifer, but the difference in translation from English is inflammable (UK) and flammable (US).
Flammable is relative to the material or structure of the object while fireproof is the exact opposite e.g. Asbestos.

Unregistered User 8 · 07-09-2020, 06:29 PM - **3 Likes**

Originally posted by Parallax

The proper pronunciation is tater.

" Spud " in Australia..................

Roast/baked spuds.
Mashed spuds.
Boiled spuds.................................hungry now....

**monochrome** · 07-09-2020, 06:33 PM - **1 Like**

Nucular

Last edited by monochrome; 07-09-2020 at 08:00 PM.

Parallax · 07-09-2020, 06:44 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by pjv

Spud " in Australia.................

That is used here, as well.

maw · 07-09-2020, 07:08 PM

Miss Pell .vs. misspells

goddo31 · 07-09-2020, 09:05 PM

"Lense" annoys me too.

One of my least favourite language trends involves the use of the word "but" to negate the first part of a sentence.
eg.
“I love you, but I can’t be with you.”

Found a nice article which explains this concisely: Using the word ‘but’: a brief guide to sincerity & clarity

bertwert · 07-09-2020, 09:14 PM

Originally posted by goddo31

"Lense" annoys me too.

One of my least favourite language trends involves the use of the word "but" to negate the first part of a sentence.
eg.
“I love you, but I can’t be with you.”

Found a nice article which explains this concisely: Using the word ‘but’: a brief guide to sincerity & clarity

No offence but....

Arjay Bee · 07-09-2020, 09:19 PM

Originally posted by Wheatfield

Originally posted by SSGGeezer*
Just one in ten, eh?
Yup. It is often used in place of annihilate.

Decimate used to get me riled up as well. It means 1 in 10 elimination by ballot. But it now has the usage of annhilate as mentioned above. So I looked it up so I could prove my point to someone I was trying to reform. But, shock, horror, the meaning annhilate is now an accepted meaning of the word. The usage from the original Latin has changed just as most people will accept dexterous and its variations as implying able handed instead of the old right handedness and sinister as meaning shady intentedness instead of the old left handedness.

I no longer get upset.

In some dictionaries the spelling of 'lense' is an accepted variant. As in all life if we all become accepting of outliers and varience then we can all get along a lot better.

slartibartfast01 · 07-09-2020, 10:29 PM

Originally posted by bxf

This is a slight detour from the purpose of this thread, but I'll include it for entertainment, if nothing else.

I learned my English in Canada, where a TV that is not B&W is a "colour TV", and a house with five bedrooms is a five bedroom house. Once in the land of OZ, I got more exposure to UK English, so that the TV is now a "coloured TV", and the house is a "five bedroomed house".

I always find myself asking "did someone colour the TV", and "who bedroomed the house?". Oh well...

I must say I have never heard a colour TV referred to as a coloured TV in the UK and can't remember ever hearing bedroomed either. Which part of the UK where you exposed to?

goddo31 · 07-09-2020, 10:45 PM

Originally posted by bertwert

No offence but....

hahaha good example!

Benz3ne · 07-09-2020, 10:52 PM

Originally posted by maw

As with most terms, it is Greek and Latin, in Latin it is ignifer, but the difference in translation from English is inflammable (UK) and flammable (US).
Flammable is relative to the material or structure of the object while fireproof is the exact opposite e.g. Asbestos.

Non-flammable also presents itself as an option for “something which isn’t flammable”.

07-09-2020, 06:03 PM - 1 Like	#122
Wheatfield Moderator Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: The wheatfields of Canada Posts: 15,981	Originally posted by stevebrot According to Merriam-Webster, "inflammable" is the older word and is derived directly from the Latin "inflammare", a verb meaning "to cause to catch fire". A few hundred years later, in the early 1800's, someone figured out that derivation from "flammare" (also a verb, "to catch fire") was more correct, hence the birth of "flammable" in English. The dictionary folk say they are synonyms. I tend to use "flammable". Your reference to the medical "inflammation" is an interesting extension that I will have to ponder. I have never seen "inflammable" used in a medical sense (prone or capable of inflammation). Steve I don’t know about other parts of the world, but where I am tanker trucks carrying a non combustible load generally are marked “ininflammable” ---------- Post added Jul 9th, 2020 at 07:10 PM ---------- Originally posted by stevebrot Might it be because that is how they spell it? (Aluminium everywhere except U.S. and Canada) Steve I believe we spell it “aluminium”. It’s you Yankees that like to cut out superfluous letters. ---------- Post added Jul 9th, 2020 at 07:14 PM ---------- Originally posted by Parallax Ooh, that's a good one. A battery, in the DC electrical context, is a group of cells. A "lens" (lense ) in the photographic context, is a group of lenses. I may be mistaken, but it’s several lens elements arranged in groups. ---------- Post added Jul 9th, 2020 at 07:17 PM ---------- Originally posted by SSGGeezer Just one in ten, eh? Yup. It is often used in place of annihilate. Last edited by Wheatfield; 07-09-2020 at 06:19 PM.

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07-09-2020, 05:45 PM	#121
dbs Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Clare Valley S A Photos: Albums Posts: 7,564	Originally posted by bxf This is a slight detour from the purpose of this thread, but I'll include it for entertainment, if nothing else. I learned my English in Canada, where a TV that is not B&W is a "colour TV", and a house with five bedrooms is a five bedroom house. Once in the land of OZ, I got more exposure to UK English, so that the TV is now a "coloured TV", and the house is a "five bedroomed house". I always find myself asking "did someone colour the TV", and "who bedroomed the house?". Oh well... I guess all bedrooms are not the same .... i must have been cheated I've only got 4, but there is a tv / monitor in each

07-09-2020, 06:23 PM	#123
noelpolar Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Goolwa, SA Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,310	Originally posted by slartibartfast01 Is "deduct" another example of not conforming? Yes.... but not so much the spelling... more a case of just how much one feels compelled by societies norms to correct typos, auto correct things etc.

07-09-2020, 06:28 PM - 3 Likes	#124
dbs Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Clare Valley S A Photos: Albums Posts: 7,564	If we were all just given a babel fish then none of this would happen

07-09-2020, 06:29 PM	#125
maw Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Sassari (Italy) Posts: 1,118	Originally posted by Wheatfield I don’t know about other parts of the world, but where I am tanker trucks carrying a non combustible load generally are marked “ininflammable” As with most terms, it is Greek and Latin, in Latin it is ignifer, but the difference in translation from English is inflammable (UK) and flammable (US). Flammable is relative to the material or structure of the object while fireproof is the exact opposite e.g. Asbestos.

07-09-2020, 06:29 PM - 3 Likes	#126
Unregistered User 8 Closed Account Join Date: Mar 2015 Photos: Gallery Posts: 8,694	Originally posted by Parallax The proper pronunciation is tater. " Spud " in Australia.................. Roast/baked spuds. Mashed spuds. Boiled spuds.................................hungry now....

07-09-2020, 06:33 PM - 1 Like	#127
monochrome Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Working From Home Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 26,276	Nucular Last edited by monochrome; 07-09-2020 at 08:00 PM.

07-09-2020, 06:44 PM - 1 Like	#128
Parallax Senior Moderator Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: South Dakota Photos: Gallery Posts: 19,332	Originally posted by pjv Spud " in Australia................. That is used here, as well.

07-09-2020, 07:08 PM	#129
maw Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Sassari (Italy) Posts: 1,118	Miss Pell .vs. misspells

07-09-2020, 09:05 PM	#130
goddo31 Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Perth, Western Australia Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,576	"Lense" annoys me too. One of my least favourite language trends involves the use of the word "but" to negate the first part of a sentence. eg. “I love you, but I can’t be with you.” Found a nice article which explains this concisely: Using the word ‘but’: a brief guide to sincerity & clarity

07-09-2020, 09:14 PM	#131
bertwert Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Golden, BC Posts: 15,173	Originally posted by goddo31 "Lense" annoys me too. One of my least favourite language trends involves the use of the word "but" to negate the first part of a sentence. eg. “I love you, but I can’t be with you.” Found a nice article which explains this concisely: Using the word ‘but’: a brief guide to sincerity & clarity No offence but....

07-09-2020, 09:19 PM	#132
Arjay Bee Pentaxian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Horn Island, Torres Straits, Q Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,715	Originally posted by Wheatfield Originally posted by SSGGeezer* Just one in ten, eh? Yup. It is often used in place of annihilate. Decimate used to get me riled up as well. It means 1 in 10 elimination by ballot. But it now has the usage of annhilate as mentioned above. So I looked it up so I could prove my point to someone I was trying to reform. But, shock, horror, the meaning annhilate is now an accepted meaning of the word. The usage from the original Latin has changed just as most people will accept dexterous and its variations as implying able handed instead of the old right handedness and sinister as meaning shady intentedness instead of the old left handedness. I no longer get upset. In some dictionaries the spelling of 'lense' is an accepted variant. As in all life if we all become accepting of outliers and varience then we can all get along a lot better.

07-09-2020, 10:29 PM	#133
slartibartfast01 Pentaxian Join Date: May 2015 Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,931	Originally posted by bxf This is a slight detour from the purpose of this thread, but I'll include it for entertainment, if nothing else. I learned my English in Canada, where a TV that is not B&W is a "colour TV", and a house with five bedrooms is a five bedroom house. Once in the land of OZ, I got more exposure to UK English, so that the TV is now a "coloured TV", and the house is a "five bedroomed house". I always find myself asking "did someone colour the TV", and "who bedroomed the house?". Oh well... I must say I have never heard a colour TV referred to as a coloured TV in the UK and can't remember ever hearing bedroomed either. Which part of the UK where you exposed to?

07-09-2020, 10:45 PM	#134
goddo31 Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Perth, Western Australia Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,576	Originally posted by bertwert No offence but.... hahaha good example!

07-09-2020, 10:52 PM	#135
Benz3ne Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2019 Location: Cymru Posts: 2,356	Originally posted by maw As with most terms, it is Greek and Latin, in Latin it is ignifer, but the difference in translation from English is inflammable (UK) and flammable (US). Flammable is relative to the material or structure of the object while fireproof is the exact opposite e.g. Asbestos. Non-flammable also presents itself as an option for “something which isn’t flammable”.