My favourite word - "Lense" and possibly other typos

MarkJerling · 07-28-2020, 06:39 PM

Originally posted by RobA_Oz

Fascinating how the meanings of words and phrases become inverted, through misunderstanding or irony mainly, I imagine.

Indeed. The other thing that's odd in South Africa, is "a few". In Afrikaans, "a pair" is "'n paar" but because "'n paar" is also used for "a few" that can mean 2 or 3 or 4, not just 2.

SpecialK · 07-28-2020, 10:39 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by MarkJerling

"a few" that can mean 2 or 3 or 4, not just 2.

I think in the "ark" section of the bible, it is mentioned "a few these are eight".

bxf · 07-29-2020, 12:08 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by MarkJerling

Oh no! In the Saffa way, "just now" is usually employed in the following fashion:
Person at service counter: "When will the manager be available?"
Answer: "Just now".

That could mean you may need to wait a few minutes to see the manager or you may have to wait several hours.

"Just now" basically means "later".

Strangely, if they answered: "He was here just now" then it could mean he was there a short while back. But the usual use as stated above is a decidedly fluid and vague concept!

If the answer was "now now" then it would mean shortly, as in soon, as in a few minutes, or maybe 15 minutes.

Looks to me like it's some new language, using sounds from English

slartibartfast01 · 07-29-2020, 01:10 AM - **5 Likes**

Originally posted by bxf

Looks to me like it's some new language, using sounds from English

A bit like American then

**rogerstg** · 08-05-2020, 04:36 AM - **2 Likes**

In the last few years, I've heard people incorrectly substitute comprised for composed. I suppose they're trying to sound smarter, but they're used differently.

The whole is composed of parts and parts comprise the whole.

maw · 08-07-2020, 03:42 PM - **1 Like**

How many times have you heard "The last will be first, and the first will be last"

But, just once I'd like to be first!

**arnold** · 08-07-2020, 06:26 PM - **2 Likes**

Originally posted by bxf

Looks to me like it's some new language, using sounds from English

With an official two language system in the past, Afrikaans and English were often mixed in a single sentence - especially with the young. Grammar was also mixed up. For example, "I say for you, stand in a straight stripe." (I am telling you, stand in line)
We often used words such as "lekker" from Afrikaans, which meant tasty or terrific. "Durban (was) is a lekker place for a holiday."

swanlefitte · 08-07-2020, 07:32 PM

Originally posted by arnold

With an official two language system in the past,

Isn't it 11 since '94? I was American/Northern Sotho by marrage for many years.
Howzit, dumela.

**RobA_Oz** · 08-09-2020, 03:33 PM - **2 Likes**

Off-topic, but seeing we’ve strayed into inappropriate usage, there’s one here that many (most) people use in our Photo Contests: “I would like to nominate this photo”. Taken literally, it’s an expression of conditional intent, and not an actual nomination (as in “I would like to buy this camera, but my wife won’t let me”).

I’m always tempted to reply: “Well, what’s stopping you?”

photoptimist · 08-09-2020, 06:18 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by RobA_Oz

Off-topic, but seeing we’ve strayed into inappropriate usage, there’s one here that many (most) people use in our Photo Contests: “I would like to nominate this photo”. Taken literally, it’s an expression of conditional intent, and not an actual nomination (as in “I would like to buy this camera, but my wife won’t let me”).

I’m always tempted to reply: “Well, what’s stopping you?”

I would like to ask you "what’s stopping you?"

swanlefitte · 08-09-2020, 08:33 PM

In many cultures you can lead a host to water but you cannot ask them to give it to you. Instead of saying, I am thirsty" or worse, "May I have a glass of water?, you sneak in a "My throat is dry." Hopefully the host will understand that you want water and offer it. However, if they have no refreshment and you ask for it, they will be humiliated or embarrassed if they do not have the means.

**RobA_Oz** · 08-09-2020, 08:35 PM - **2 Likes**

Originally posted by photoptimist

I would like to ask you "what’s stopping you?"

My wife won’t let me.

timb64 · 08-10-2020, 01:17 PM - **2 Likes**

“This bad boy” referring to an item....just not a phrase I could ever bring myself to use.

Racer X 69 · 08-10-2020, 01:35 PM

Originally posted by timb64

“This bad boy” referring to an item....just not a phrase I could ever bring myself to use.

I agree. While prone to hyperbole, I have my standards to uphold.

photoptimist · 08-10-2020, 01:59 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by timb64

“This bad boy” referring to an item....just not a phrase I could ever bring myself to use.

Worse is just "my bad" -- no nouns, no verbs, no complete sentence, no apologies.

It sounds like something a toddler said and the parents never corrected them. But now I hear adults use it, too.

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07-28-2020, 06:39 PM	#406
MarkJerling Moderator Site Supporter Join Date: May 2012 Location: Wairarapa, New Zealand Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 20,423 Original Poster	Originally posted by RobA_Oz Fascinating how the meanings of words and phrases become inverted, through misunderstanding or irony mainly, I imagine. Indeed. The other thing that's odd in South Africa, is "a few". In Afrikaans, "a pair" is "'n paar" but because "'n paar" is also used for "a few" that can mean 2 or 3 or 4, not just 2.

07-28-2020, 10:39 PM - 1 Like	#407
SpecialK Pentaxian Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: So California Photos: Gallery Posts: 16,482	Originally posted by MarkJerling "a few" that can mean 2 or 3 or 4, not just 2. I think in the "ark" section of the bible, it is mentioned "a few these are eight".

07-29-2020, 12:08 AM - 1 Like	#408
bxf Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Lisbon area Posts: 1,660	Originally posted by MarkJerling Oh no! In the Saffa way, "just now" is usually employed in the following fashion: Person at service counter: "When will the manager be available?" Answer: "Just now". That could mean you may need to wait a few minutes to see the manager or you may have to wait several hours. "Just now" basically means "later". Strangely, if they answered: "He was here just now" then it could mean he was there a short while back. But the usual use as stated above is a decidedly fluid and vague concept! If the answer was "now now" then it would mean shortly, as in soon, as in a few minutes, or maybe 15 minutes. Looks to me like it's some new language, using sounds from English

07-29-2020, 01:10 AM - 5 Likes	#409
slartibartfast01 Pentaxian Join Date: May 2015 Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,931	Originally posted by bxf Looks to me like it's some new language, using sounds from English A bit like American then

08-05-2020, 04:36 AM - 2 Likes	#410
rogerstg Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Rhode Island Photos: Albums Posts: 1,168	In the last few years, I've heard people incorrectly substitute comprised for composed. I suppose they're trying to sound smarter, but they're used differently. The whole is composed of parts and parts comprise the whole.

08-07-2020, 03:42 PM - 1 Like	#411
maw Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Sassari (Italy) Posts: 1,118	How many times have you heard "The last will be first, and the first will be last" But, just once I'd like to be first!

08-07-2020, 06:26 PM - 2 Likes	#412
arnold Site Supporter Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Queensland Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 4,299	Originally posted by bxf Looks to me like it's some new language, using sounds from English With an official two language system in the past, Afrikaans and English were often mixed in a single sentence - especially with the young. Grammar was also mixed up. For example, "I say for you, stand in a straight stripe." (I am telling you, stand in line) We often used words such as "lekker" from Afrikaans, which meant tasty or terrific. "Durban (was) is a lekker place for a holiday."

08-07-2020, 07:32 PM	#413
swanlefitte Pentaxian Join Date: May 2015 Location: Minneapolis Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,068	Originally posted by arnold With an official two language system in the past, Isn't it 11 since '94? I was American/Northern Sotho by marrage for many years. Howzit, dumela.

08-09-2020, 03:33 PM - 2 Likes	#414
RobA_Oz Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Tasmania, Australia Photos: Gallery Posts: 8,209	Off-topic, but seeing we’ve strayed into inappropriate usage, there’s one here that many (most) people use in our Photo Contests: “I would like to nominate this photo”. Taken literally, it’s an expression of conditional intent, and not an actual nomination (as in “I would like to buy this camera, but my wife won’t let me”). I’m always tempted to reply: “Well, what’s stopping you?”

08-09-2020, 06:18 PM - 1 Like	#415
photoptimist Pentaxian Join Date: Jul 2016 Photos: Albums Posts: 5,128	Originally posted by RobA_Oz Off-topic, but seeing we’ve strayed into inappropriate usage, there’s one here that many (most) people use in our Photo Contests: “I would like to nominate this photo”. Taken literally, it’s an expression of conditional intent, and not an actual nomination (as in “I would like to buy this camera, but my wife won’t let me”). I’m always tempted to reply: “Well, what’s stopping you?” I would like to ask you "what’s stopping you?"

08-09-2020, 08:33 PM	#416
swanlefitte Pentaxian Join Date: May 2015 Location: Minneapolis Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,068	In many cultures you can lead a host to water but you cannot ask them to give it to you. Instead of saying, I am thirsty" or worse, "May I have a glass of water?, you sneak in a "My throat is dry." Hopefully the host will understand that you want water and offer it. However, if they have no refreshment and you ask for it, they will be humiliated or embarrassed if they do not have the means.

08-09-2020, 08:35 PM - 2 Likes	#417
RobA_Oz Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Tasmania, Australia Photos: Gallery Posts: 8,209	Originally posted by photoptimist I would like to ask you "what’s stopping you?" My wife won’t let me.

08-10-2020, 01:17 PM - 2 Likes	#418
timb64 Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: /Situation : Doing my best to avoid idiots! Photos: Gallery Posts: 9,514	“This bad boy” referring to an item....just not a phrase I could ever bring myself to use.

08-10-2020, 01:35 PM	#419
Racer X 69 Moderator Man With A Camera Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: The Great Pacific Northwet, in the Land Between Canada and Mexico Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 28,073	Originally posted by timb64 “This bad boy” referring to an item....just not a phrase I could ever bring myself to use. I agree. While prone to hyperbole, I have my standards to uphold.

08-10-2020, 01:59 PM - 1 Like	#420
photoptimist Pentaxian Join Date: Jul 2016 Photos: Albums Posts: 5,128	Originally posted by timb64 “This bad boy” referring to an item....just not a phrase I could ever bring myself to use. Worse is just "my bad" -- no nouns, no verbs, no complete sentence, no apologies. It sounds like something a toddler said and the parents never corrected them. But now I hear adults use it, too.