Please have a little respect while using the Marketplace !

**UncleVanya** · 12-21-2020, 07:57 AM

Originally posted by steamloco76

I’ve grown weary of sellers who have listings up for months and months, bumping them, but NEVER responding to PM’s with offers. Why bother listing your items? Unless, of course, their significant other says they have to try and sell some gear. Hey, look honey, I keep re-listing it, but nobody is buying.

I have only had this happen with one user who is on my ignore list these days. Otherwise the only sellers that fail to respond are those who don’t frequent the forums and sold gear but didn’t Mark it sold.

**ChrisPlatt** · 12-21-2020, 08:34 AM

Originally posted by steamloco76

I’ve grown weary of sellers who have listings up for months and months, bumping them, but NEVER responding to PM’s with offers. Why bother listing your items? Unless, of course, their significant other says they have to try and sell some gear. Hey, look honey, I keep re-listing it, but nobody is buying.

Some sellers have unreasonable expectations and consider anything less than their price as a lowball offer.
Occasionally I run into this on eBay as well. Sellers like this usually keep their items a good long time.

Back in the days of newspaper classified ads I recall one of my brothers-in-law
once listed his non-collectible well-used car for the price he paid for it brand new...

Chris

stevebrot · 12-21-2020, 10:35 AM

Originally posted by steamloco76

I’ve grown weary of sellers who have listings up for months and months, bumping them, but NEVER responding to PM’s with offers.

Perhaps, the reason why they don't respond is that the item out of the list of dozens on the post was likely sold months ago, but never marked as such.

Steve

(...had a bad experience with that seller and should probably mark to ignore...)

35mmfilmfan · 12-21-2020, 02:26 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by ChrisPlatt

Some sellers have unreasonable expectations and consider anything less than their price as a lowball offer.
Occasionally I run into this on eBay as well. Sellers like this usually keep their items a good long time.

Chris

I am currently watching a book that has sat on Ebay for at least four months, without selling or the price dropping. Out of curiosity, I messaged the seller to ask if they would accept an offer, not even naming a price. This was their response :

'Hello there,

Thank you for your email. Our prices reflect the current demand in the market place, and we are unable to accept offers I'm afraid.'

As it is the only copy currently available, and has not yet sold, I fail to see how the price 'Reflects the current demand'. Maybe I am missing something.

**UncleVanya** · 12-21-2020, 09:45 PM

Originally posted by 35mmfilmfan

I am currently watching a book that has sat on Ebay for at least four months, without selling or the price dropping. Out of curiosity, I messaged the seller to ask if they would accept an offer, not even naming a price. This was their response :

'Hello there,

Thank you for your email. Our prices reflect the current demand in the market place, and we are unable to accept offers I'm afraid.'

As it is the only copy currently available, and has not yet sold, I fail to see how the price 'Reflects the current demand'. Maybe I am missing something.

That represents wishful thinking. Lol.

**Rondec** · 12-22-2020, 03:41 AM

Originally posted by 35mmfilmfan

I am currently watching a book that has sat on Ebay for at least four months, without selling or the price dropping. Out of curiosity, I messaged the seller to ask if they would accept an offer, not even naming a price. This was their response :

'Hello there,

Thank you for your email. Our prices reflect the current demand in the market place, and we are unable to accept offers I'm afraid.'

As it is the only copy currently available, and has not yet sold, I fail to see how the price 'Reflects the current demand'. Maybe I am missing something.

The seller is probably still reading the book himself and is just a slow reader.

Can't sell the book before you are done.

EnglishBob · 12-22-2020, 08:05 AM - **2 Likes**

If more than one person wants anything for the price listed, the item sells itself. I missed a lot of great deals here because it was sold faster than a New York minute.

stevebrot · 12-22-2020, 11:54 AM

Originally posted by 35mmfilmfan

I am currently watching a book that has sat on Ebay for at least four months, without selling or the price dropping. Out of curiosity, I messaged the seller to ask if they would accept an offer, not even naming a price. This was their response :

'Hello there,

Thank you for your email. Our prices reflect the current demand in the market place, and we are unable to accept offers I'm afraid.'

As it is the only copy currently available, and has not yet sold, I fail to see how the price 'Reflects the current demand'. Maybe I am missing something.

The book is probably on the shelf at the seller's brick and mortar store. If eBay were their primary outlet, they would have been open to an offer.

Steve

35mmfilmfan · 12-22-2020, 03:07 PM

Originally posted by stevebrot

The book is probably on the shelf at the seller's brick and mortar store. If eBay were their primary outlet, they would have been open to an offer.

Steve

My thoughts entirely - and in my view it can stay there.

**steamloco76** · 12-23-2020, 05:23 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by stevebrot

Perhaps, the reason why they don't respond is that the item out of the list of dozens on the post was likely sold months ago, but never marked as such.

Steve

(...had a bad experience with that seller and should probably mark to ignore...)

The particular seller had only seven posts and his activity log showed he was on the forum two hours after I posted my first contact. He was then online when I posted my second contact. Finally, I contacted via guestbook asking if the item was still available and if so, why did he ignore my PM’s. A day later I get a reply that he had sold the item that morning- for the price I had offered! Now, I think that last detail was just rubbing it in that he did not wish to deal with me for some reason.

**UncleVanya** · 12-23-2020, 08:21 PM

Originally posted by steamloco76

The particular seller had only seven posts and his activity log showed he was on the forum two hours after I posted my first contact. He was then online when I posted my second contact. Finally, I contacted via guestbook asking if the item was still available and if so, why did he ignore my PM’s. A day later I get a reply that he had sold the item that morning- for the price I had offered! Now, I think that last detail was just rubbing it in that he did not wish to deal with me for some reason.

There is a user here on my ignore list that simply ignored all my attempts to buy an item from him or her. The item sold so it didn't hurt them but it made me angry - I will never remove them from my ignore list as a result of this.

**robgski** · 12-24-2020, 04:54 AM - **2 Likes**

If you think it's a challenge with PF and lenses or cameras, try selling a somewhat collectible car via a forum. Many inquiries, pictures, documents, then nothing.

The majority of my camera gear has been purchased form the Marketplace, I have had almost entirely wonderful and easy transaction and been very satisfied with the purchases. As a PF buyer, I will usually make an offer to the seller, and accept or decline depending on their response.

---------- Post added 12-24-20 at 07:10 ----------

Originally posted by steamloco76

Now, I think that last detail was just rubbing it in that he did not wish to deal with me for some reason.

I never make a business transaction personal.

There are three ways I can think of to sell, hold fast to a value and accept no offers, or start high but take a reasonable offer, or know the value but take whatever you can get.
In the first you know the value of the object and are in no hurry to sell unless your offer is met. This is my mindset with my car, fortunately I can afford to be this way right now.
In the second, you know the range of value, and would like to sell but only if the offer is close to what you are willing to accept. This is my attitude with a certain guitar I am selling.
In the third case, you need the money, and/or want to be rid of the item. The former was my attitude when I was selling my music collection to pay my rent 30 years ago. The latter is how I participated in flea markets. When people asked how much I wanted for stuff, I'd often respond with "How much would you like to pay?" Their reaction was often one of astonishment, but more people walked away with my stuff in their bags, and their money in my pocket. A win for both parties.

**aslyfox** · 12-26-2020, 03:16 PM

Originally posted by robgski

. . . . The majority of my camera gear has been purchased form the Marketplace, I have had almost entirely wonderful and easy transaction and been very satisfied with the purchases. As a PF buyer, I will usually make an offer to the seller, and accept or decline depending on their response.. . . .

that has been my experience, 100 %

ask the seller politely via PM if there is any " wriggle room " on the listed price

if yes, then make offer and discuss

if no, thank the seller politely and wish the seller the best of luck on the sale to someone else

**jpzk** · 03-06-2021, 01:48 PM

Originally posted by aslyfox

that has been my experience, 100 %

ask the seller politely via PM if there is any " wriggle room " on the listed price

if yes, then make offer and discuss

if no, thank the seller politely and wish the seller the best of luck on the sale to someone else

Actually, it (again) happened two days ago about an item of mine on the Marketplace.

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12-21-2020, 07:57 AM	#31
UncleVanya Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2014 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 28,381	Originally posted by steamloco76 I’ve grown weary of sellers who have listings up for months and months, bumping them, but NEVER responding to PM’s with offers. Why bother listing your items? Unless, of course, their significant other says they have to try and sell some gear. Hey, look honey, I keep re-listing it, but nobody is buying. I have only had this happen with one user who is on my ignore list these days. Otherwise the only sellers that fail to respond are those who don’t frequent the forums and sold gear but didn’t Mark it sold.

12-21-2020, 08:34 AM	#32
ChrisPlatt Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Rockaway Beach NYC Posts: 7,692	Originally posted by steamloco76 I’ve grown weary of sellers who have listings up for months and months, bumping them, but NEVER responding to PM’s with offers. Why bother listing your items? Unless, of course, their significant other says they have to try and sell some gear. Hey, look honey, I keep re-listing it, but nobody is buying. Some sellers have unreasonable expectations and consider anything less than their price as a lowball offer. Occasionally I run into this on eBay as well. Sellers like this usually keep their items a good long time. Back in the days of newspaper classified ads I recall one of my brothers-in-law once listed his non-collectible well-used car for the price he paid for it brand new... Chris

12-21-2020, 10:35 AM	#33
stevebrot Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Vancouver (USA) Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 42,007	Originally posted by steamloco76 I’ve grown weary of sellers who have listings up for months and months, bumping them, but NEVER responding to PM’s with offers. Perhaps, the reason why they don't respond is that the item out of the list of dozens on the post was likely sold months ago, but never marked as such. Steve (...had a bad experience with that seller and should probably mark to ignore...)

12-21-2020, 02:26 PM - 1 Like	#34
35mmfilmfan Pentaxian Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: Norfolk, UK Posts: 4,312	Originally posted by ChrisPlatt Some sellers have unreasonable expectations and consider anything less than their price as a lowball offer. Occasionally I run into this on eBay as well. Sellers like this usually keep their items a good long time. Chris I am currently watching a book that has sat on Ebay for at least four months, without selling or the price dropping. Out of curiosity, I messaged the seller to ask if they would accept an offer, not even naming a price. This was their response : 'Hello there, Thank you for your email. Our prices reflect the current demand in the market place, and we are unable to accept offers I'm afraid.' As it is the only copy currently available, and has not yet sold, I fail to see how the price 'Reflects the current demand'. Maybe I am missing something.

12-21-2020, 09:45 PM	#35
UncleVanya Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2014 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 28,381	Originally posted by 35mmfilmfan I am currently watching a book that has sat on Ebay for at least four months, without selling or the price dropping. Out of curiosity, I messaged the seller to ask if they would accept an offer, not even naming a price. This was their response : 'Hello there, Thank you for your email. Our prices reflect the current demand in the market place, and we are unable to accept offers I'm afraid.' As it is the only copy currently available, and has not yet sold, I fail to see how the price 'Reflects the current demand'. Maybe I am missing something. That represents wishful thinking. Lol.

12-22-2020, 03:41 AM	#36
Rondec Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Gladys, Virginia Photos: Gallery Posts: 27,650	Originally posted by 35mmfilmfan I am currently watching a book that has sat on Ebay for at least four months, without selling or the price dropping. Out of curiosity, I messaged the seller to ask if they would accept an offer, not even naming a price. This was their response : 'Hello there, Thank you for your email. Our prices reflect the current demand in the market place, and we are unable to accept offers I'm afraid.' As it is the only copy currently available, and has not yet sold, I fail to see how the price 'Reflects the current demand'. Maybe I am missing something. The seller is probably still reading the book himself and is just a slow reader. Can't sell the book before you are done.

12-22-2020, 08:05 AM - 2 Likes	#37
EnglishBob Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Maryland Posts: 159	If more than one person wants anything for the price listed, the item sells itself. I missed a lot of great deals here because it was sold faster than a New York minute.

12-22-2020, 11:54 AM	#38
stevebrot Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Vancouver (USA) Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 42,007	Originally posted by 35mmfilmfan I am currently watching a book that has sat on Ebay for at least four months, without selling or the price dropping. Out of curiosity, I messaged the seller to ask if they would accept an offer, not even naming a price. This was their response : 'Hello there, Thank you for your email. Our prices reflect the current demand in the market place, and we are unable to accept offers I'm afraid.' As it is the only copy currently available, and has not yet sold, I fail to see how the price 'Reflects the current demand'. Maybe I am missing something. The book is probably on the shelf at the seller's brick and mortar store. If eBay were their primary outlet, they would have been open to an offer. Steve

12-22-2020, 03:07 PM	#39
35mmfilmfan Pentaxian Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: Norfolk, UK Posts: 4,312	Originally posted by stevebrot The book is probably on the shelf at the seller's brick and mortar store. If eBay were their primary outlet, they would have been open to an offer. Steve My thoughts entirely - and in my view it can stay there.

12-23-2020, 05:23 AM - 1 Like	#40
steamloco76 Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Pennsylvania Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,710	Originally posted by stevebrot Perhaps, the reason why they don't respond is that the item out of the list of dozens on the post was likely sold months ago, but never marked as such. Steve (...had a bad experience with that seller and should probably mark to ignore...) The particular seller had only seven posts and his activity log showed he was on the forum two hours after I posted my first contact. He was then online when I posted my second contact. Finally, I contacted via guestbook asking if the item was still available and if so, why did he ignore my PM’s. A day later I get a reply that he had sold the item that morning- for the price I had offered! Now, I think that last detail was just rubbing it in that he did not wish to deal with me for some reason.

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12-23-2020, 08:21 PM	#41
UncleVanya Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2014 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 28,381	Originally posted by steamloco76 The particular seller had only seven posts and his activity log showed he was on the forum two hours after I posted my first contact. He was then online when I posted my second contact. Finally, I contacted via guestbook asking if the item was still available and if so, why did he ignore my PM’s. A day later I get a reply that he had sold the item that morning- for the price I had offered! Now, I think that last detail was just rubbing it in that he did not wish to deal with me for some reason. There is a user here on my ignore list that simply ignored all my attempts to buy an item from him or her. The item sold so it didn't hurt them but it made me angry - I will never remove them from my ignore list as a result of this.

12-24-2020, 04:54 AM - 2 Likes	#42
robgski Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Shenandoah Valley, Virginia Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,793	If you think it's a challenge with PF and lenses or cameras, try selling a somewhat collectible car via a forum. Many inquiries, pictures, documents, then nothing. The majority of my camera gear has been purchased form the Marketplace, I have had almost entirely wonderful and easy transaction and been very satisfied with the purchases. As a PF buyer, I will usually make an offer to the seller, and accept or decline depending on their response. ---------- Post added 12-24-20 at 07:10 ---------- Originally posted by steamloco76 Now, I think that last detail was just rubbing it in that he did not wish to deal with me for some reason. I never make a business transaction personal. There are three ways I can think of to sell, hold fast to a value and accept no offers, or start high but take a reasonable offer, or know the value but take whatever you can get. In the first you know the value of the object and are in no hurry to sell unless your offer is met. This is my mindset with my car, fortunately I can afford to be this way right now. In the second, you know the range of value, and would like to sell but only if the offer is close to what you are willing to accept. This is my attitude with a certain guitar I am selling. In the third case, you need the money, and/or want to be rid of the item. The former was my attitude when I was selling my music collection to pay my rent 30 years ago. The latter is how I participated in flea markets. When people asked how much I wanted for stuff, I'd often respond with "How much would you like to pay?" Their reaction was often one of astonishment, but more people walked away with my stuff in their bags, and their money in my pocket. A win for both parties.

12-26-2020, 03:16 PM	#43
aslyfox Seeker of Knowledge Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Topeka, Kansas Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 24,576	Originally posted by robgski . . . . The majority of my camera gear has been purchased form the Marketplace, I have had almost entirely wonderful and easy transaction and been very satisfied with the purchases. As a PF buyer, I will usually make an offer to the seller, and accept or decline depending on their response.. . . . that has been my experience, 100 % ask the seller politely via PM if there is any " wriggle room " on the listed price if yes, then make offer and discuss if no, thank the seller politely and wish the seller the best of luck on the sale to someone else

03-06-2021, 01:48 PM	#44
jpzk Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Québec Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,251 Original Poster	Originally posted by aslyfox that has been my experience, 100 % ask the seller politely via PM if there is any " wriggle room " on the listed price if yes, then make offer and discuss if no, thank the seller politely and wish the seller the best of luck on the sale to someone else Actually, it (again) happened two days ago about an item of mine on the Marketplace.