[luftfluss]

That's great news

I spoke to my oldest friend a few days ago... like me (and your missus) he had the Moderna Spikevax booster... and, like me, he had some joint pain. But he also had a fever, and his injection site was swollen and angrily-red for several days. Plus, he felt quite fluey. He said he wouldn't claim to have been ill, exactly, but definitely unwell. He recovered and feels great now, but clearly folks have different reactions to this vaccine. I still think it's a small price to pay, in most cases...

Hmm. I mentioned to my wife that you and your friend experienced joint pain, and she said, "Now that you mention it..."

It's not bad, though, and as you said it's a small price to pay. I feel very fortunate that everyone in my immediate family is fully vaxxed.

[photogem]

.... I spoke to my oldest friend a few days ago... like me (and your missus) he had the Moderna Spikevax booster... and, like me, he had some joint pain. But he also had a fever, and his injection site was swollen and angrily-red for several days. Plus, he felt quite fluey. He said he wouldn't claim to have been ill, exactly, but definitely unwell. He recovered and feels great now, but clearly folks have different reactions to this vaccine. I still think it's a small price to pay, in most cases...

My booster was Cominatry/Biontech-Pfizer (as the 2 previous shots) since August.
This time for 2 days quite some pain on the left arm, strong enough so I wasn't able lying on that side. Also some joint-aches, strangly the worst on the right foot, so that part of the body being the furthest away. Now 2nd day and already better. I agree, a small price to pay.

Regarding covid and vaccination in general:
I am not a specialist on that field but I have a customer, he lives, works and teaches in Wuhan, China.
It was sheer accident, he had ordered something few years ago and then again this summer.
When I wrote the adress I got it that I actually sold something to one of the best virologists from China.

So I asked him about Covid, knowing that everything he writes will be filtered, i.e. controlled by the government.
Nevertheless he answered and with one advice he stuck his head quite out of the window:
He sees mRNA vaccination as the very best, particular Pfizer/Biontech. He recommends wearing masks (only good quality N95, no surgical masks) as soon as more people are in a room and particular in public buildings and in trains/busses + Hygiene. I didn't ask more questions because I knew his mails will be filtered, his answer corresponded with what I knew anyway (my sister and my brother are doctors of medicine as are the two sons of my brother)

Regarding antibodies:
It could well be that antibodies which react to internal virusproteins can only act, when the virus already entered the cell, i.e. has multiplied and destroyed the cell.
I don't know if the body when attacked naturally through covid can produce spike-proteins. But possibly less likely than through a vaccination with mRNA!

But the immune-system is very complex and antibodies or lack of those doesn't say much about how well one is protected. Antibody-tests will not tell you how well you are protected against covid.

A sensible article is this one:

COVID Natural Immunity: What You Need to Know | Johns Hopkins Medicine

[turbo_bird]

I was at the optometrist yesterday for a routine checkup, and they asked about covid vaccine status, so curious me asked what that has to do with my vision. I was told that there's been reports of light sensitivity as a side effect, and they were keeping track of that. First I've heard of it, and the girl in the lab who told me that said it usually doesn't last long.
Kristian

[timb64]

Just received result of PCR test that I have the virus.I only took a test as a precaution as my wife who works in healthcare has had a persistent cough/cold.She is clear,I am completely asymptomatic and triple vaccinated so hoping the effects won’t be too bad.

[aslyfox]

Just received result of PCR test that I have the virus.I only took a test as a precaution as my wife who works in healthcare has had a persistent cough/cold.She is clear,I am completely asymptomatic and triple vaccinated so hoping the effects won’t be too bad.

Thinking good thoughts for you and yours

[Serkevan]

,I am completely asymptomatic and triple vaccinated so hoping the effects won’t be too bad.

Hopefully it stays that way!
All the best and keep us posted

[aslyfox]

it's time to look at possibly changing your masks [ I have been using KN 95 masks from Amazon since the spring of 2020 ]

Health officials and experts are increasingly saying it's time to upgrade your face masks, especially in light of the Omicron surge.

California's public health director and health officer, Dr. Tomás Aragón, wrote recently that with the increasing airborne spread of the coronavirus, it's important to improve the fit of masks and their filtration — making enhancements that go beyond old, loose, cloth face coverings that became popular in 2020. Dr. Robert Wachter, chair of UC San Francisco's Department of Medicine, agreed. Since Omicron is twice as infectious, Wachter wrote, "an encounter that you could have tolerated for Delta may well infect you [with] Omicron. Knowing this, it’s worth upgrading the protection you get from your mask."

Here's the latest advice from the California Department of Public Health ranking the protectiveness of certain kinds of masks:

Best masks
The best masks are N95, KN95 and KF94 masks. Don't wear an additional face covering on top of these masks.

Better masks
Less effective, but still better than loose cloth masks alone, are surgical masks — commonly called blue masks because there's usually a blue-tinted color on the outside of the masks.

They can be made more effective by placing a cloth mask over the surgical mask, which make the fit of the face covering more snug. (Officials don't recommend wearing two surgical masks.) "Throw the mask away if it is wet/or dirty or after a day of use, whichever comes first," the L.A. County Department of Public Health says. Gaps around the sides of a surgical mask make them less protective than a tighter-fitting mask. "With gaps, air that has virus particles can easily leak in or out around the sides of the mask. Good fit forces the air that you breathe out and breathe in to go through the mask and be filtered," the state Department of Public Health says.

Good masks
"Cloth masks can work well if they are tight-fitting and made of materials that filter out small particles," the state's website says.

The California Department of Public Health says that good masks have the following properties: Two layers of tightly woven cotton with a third layer of non-woven fabric. The third layer could be a mask filter insert or a synthetic fabric such as polypropylene. Nose wires to reduce gaps from the nose. Adjustable ear loops or straps that go around the head to reduce gaps from the face . . . .

Omicron surge means it's time to upgrade your mask. Here's how

---

Last edited by aslyfox; 12-30-2021 at 08:36 AM.

[luftfluss]

Just received result of PCR test that I have the virus.I only took a test as a precaution as my wife who works in healthcare has had a persistent cough/cold.She is clear,I am completely asymptomatic and triple vaccinated so hoping the effects won’t be too bad.

Fingers crossed!

[aslyfox]

latest from Kansas

Kansas Dec 29 Covic 19 report
omicron variant cases have been found in the State including in my county

yesterday
7,337 new cases
7 day trend rising
38 new deaths

total cases 520,316
total deaths 7,006

[ estimated population in Kansas' largest city - Wichita - 397,532 according to 2020 census ]

7 day trend:
34 counties rising
35 counties falling
36 counties flat

Shawnee County [ where I live ]
486 new cases
7 day trend rising
0 new deaths

total cases 31,041
total deaths 478

[Wheatfield]

Where did I say about protection for life? Natural immunity trigger memory against the whole virus, not only to one protein, but it does not guarantee re-infection. Neither vaccines.

Vaccines have been proven to give a better immune response than so called natural immunity. Perhaps you need to get off Facebook for your medical information.

[dstar]

it's time to look at possibly changing your masks [ I have been using KN 95 masks from Amazon since the spring of 2020 ]



Omicron surge means it's time to upgrade your mask. Here's how

I have better suggestions to you and for
I use from beginning this madness mask call
AIR Solo from Oracle lighting
With UV light at hospital everyday
Not expensive and reusable

[Parallax]

If natural immunity is so wonderful, and better than vaccines why do we need any vaccines at all? Measles, mumps, rubella, tetanus, smallpox, polio, influenza, etc., etc., etc. If natural immunity is better wouldn't it be better to go catch all of those than to try to prevent them with vaccines?

Perhaps you need to get off Facebook for your medical information.

Is it just me or does anyone else get the urge to punch the TV when you see a picture of Mark Zuckerberg?

[aslyfox]

I have better suggestions to you and for
I use from beginning this madness mask call
AIR Solo from Oracle lighting
With UV light at hospital everyday
Not expensive and reusable

this ???

. . .A.I.R. Solo is worn under any common face mask and utilizes a patent-pending system to sanitize the air while simultaneously neutralizing contaminants trapped in the cloth face mask by means of short-wave ultraviolet light exposure. The ultraviolet light source is produced via UV LEDs which are integrated into the device. The spectrum of ultraviolet light is separated into various ranges, with shortest-wavelength referred to as UV-C which is considered “germicidal UV”.

“A.I.R. Solo is composed of a small cover made of an anti-microbial silicone which is worn on the face and attached with straps similar to a traditional face mask,” Hartenstein continued. “The user wears a traditional face mask (cloth mask, surgical mask, N95, etc.) over the device. A small rechargeable battery pack powers the device and can be manually turned on and off by the user. In addition to the anti-germicidal LEDs, the device also contains UV-A LEDs which provide a wider light spectrum and visible light. The visible UV-A LED functions as an indicator that the device is on and working but provides minimal anti-microbial benefits.”. . .

https://www.oraclelights.com/blogs/news/the-latest-weapon-in-the-covid-19-ba...able-for-order

. . . Not expensive and reusable. . .

not sure of the pricing, the two I found were more than $100

[Serkevan]

Is it just me or does anyone else get the urge to punch the TV when you see a picture of Mark Zuckerberg?

Just you.





I get the urge to punch Zuckerberg directly; the poor TV did nuthing and I paid for it.

---------- Post added 12-30-21 at 11:28 AM ----------

I have better suggestions to you and for
I use from beginning this madness mask call
AIR Solo from Oracle lighting
With UV light at hospital everyday
Not expensive and reusable

I am not entirely sure about the health implications of emitting UV-C radiation towards other nearby people.


Also, can it make you shoot lasers out of your mouth? I want to shoot lasers out of my mouth.

[tranq78]

Just you.





I get the urge to punch Zuckerberg directly; the poor TV did nuthing and I paid for it.

---------- Post added 12-30-21 at 11:28 AM ----------



I am not entirely sure about the health implications of emitting UV-C radiation towards other nearby people.


Also, can it make you shoot lasers out of your mouth? I want to shoot lasers out of my mouth.

No lazers if you use Pentax gear. Sony forced Pentax to cut a deal when the Sony sensor was used. You get LED xmas lights out of your mouth.

For lazers you need to go Nikon.

Go Canon and you get 30 megawatt blasters.

Switch to Oly and there's a mail in coupon for a slightly used get out of jail free card.