Apple is still apple.

normhead · 01-09-2021, 02:17 PM - **2 Likes**

Now 10 years away from seeing many published reports on the durability of Apple product, I found this surprise on the CBC yesterday. Turns out Apple is still the most reliable.

Which smartphone, laptop and tablet brands break down the most? We asked over 3,000 Canadians to find out | CBC News

**Just1MoreDave** · 01-09-2021, 03:04 PM

My Apple stock is extremely durable.

surfar · 01-09-2021, 04:10 PM

My MacMini is FAST!

**Michail_P** · 01-09-2021, 04:43 PM - **1 Like**

The iPhone 5s holds strong for years. And it’s just the right size. They have forgotten about the importance of that lately. You almost can’t tell if you have bought a phone or a tablet nowadays. Apple stuff is durable. Built nicely. The best thing after Nokia. I still use the kit charger.. so well made.

bobmaxja · 01-09-2021, 04:45 PM

Ipad are thought , I have an early one , still working and we have 2 newer one working flawlessy. My Samsung tablet was garbage after 1 year...

timb64 · 01-09-2021, 05:00 PM

Most of my posts on PF are from a ten year old iPad,still going strong.

**carlb** · 01-09-2021, 05:15 PM - **1 Like**

They might be reliable but i wouldn't buy an apple product if they were the last company on Earth

normhead · 01-09-2021, 06:15 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by carlb

They might be reliable but i wouldn't buy an apple product if they were the last company on Earth

Well aren't you just all in our faces.

reeftool · 01-09-2021, 07:08 PM

Every Apple product I have owned has lasted well past the point where it has become obsolete. I'm using a 5 year old Mac mini. I have an 8 year old iPad that still works fine. I upgraded to an IPad Pro last year because some of the apps I needed would no longer run (like my car insurance app and a couple of banks). I still have a perfectly usable but obsolete iPhone 5s in a drawer somewhere. It got used for a while last year when my wifes Android phone died until we could get another phone. Down in the basement is an Apple lle we used decades ago back in the 80's. I played with it a couple of years ago. It would start up fine but the floppy drive wouldn't read anything. I have an Apple Watch also. It's a series 3 and still current. It's an excellent smartwatch but sucks as a serious exercise tracker so I rarely wear it anymore in favor of a Garmin Fenix 6.

**carlb** · 01-09-2021, 07:16 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by normhead

Well aren't you just all in our faces.

Don't worry Norm, I feel exactly the same way about Dell

**boriscleto** · 01-09-2021, 07:23 PM

Originally posted by reeftool

I'm using a 5 year old Mac mini. .

Mine is almost 12, but it's mostly a media server now.

**Rondec** · 01-10-2021, 04:11 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by carlb

Don't worry Norm, I feel exactly the same way about Dell

My wife got a Dell Laptop and it has had issues three different times. Fortunately (I guess) she bought a extended warranty on it, but it is still aggravating to have to box it up every four months and send it away to be repaired. I don't think I would buy another of their products based on this experience.

**carlb** · 01-10-2021, 03:07 PM

Originally posted by Rondec

My wife got a Dell Laptop and it has had issues three different times. Fortunately (I guess) she bought a extended warranty on it, but it is still aggravating to have to box it up every four months and send it away to be repaired. I don't think I would buy another of their products based on this experience.

Nor would I. They left me (and my business) swinging in the breeze for a month while they refused to fix a problem until they finally relented and got a technician to come and fix it. They cost me countless lost hours. If they had simply replaced it with another laptop straight away then I'd have been back up and running and I'd be a customer for life. It would have cost them maybe a couple of hundred dollars (loose change for a company that size), but instead they faffed about and I'll never buy another Dell as long as I live.

ZombieArmy · 01-22-2021, 09:57 PM

My most reliable devices have been audio gear and video game consoles. Plus my vintage Wyse WY-60 terminal I picked up from a company a few years ago changing out their main frame which somehow still works despite 24 hour operation for over 20 years.

I think the article is a bit flawed though. They're comparing devices like the LG thin q which was a 250 dollar feature phone to apple which literally doesn't sell a phone under 400.

Apple just doesn't make cheap commodity products. I'd be more interested in a more scientific comparison between what their products actually compete against.

SpecialK · 01-23-2021, 12:48 AM - **2 Likes**

My cheap ($139, incl set up) Samsung phone is 6 years old. Works fine. Drag-and-drop files. iTunes? No thanks.

01-09-2021, 02:17 PM - 2 Likes	#1
normhead Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Near Algonquin Park Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 40,451	Apple is still apple. Now 10 years away from seeing many published reports on the durability of Apple product, I found this surprise on the CBC yesterday. Turns out Apple is still the most reliable. Which smartphone, laptop and tablet brands break down the most? We asked over 3,000 Canadians to find out \| CBC News

01-22-2021, 09:57 PM	#14
ZombieArmy Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Florida Posts: 3,210	My most reliable devices have been audio gear and video game consoles. Plus my vintage Wyse WY-60 terminal I picked up from a company a few years ago changing out their main frame which somehow still works despite 24 hour operation for over 20 years. I think the article is a bit flawed though. They're comparing devices like the LG thin q which was a 250 dollar feature phone to apple which literally doesn't sell a phone under 400. Apple just doesn't make cheap commodity products. I'd be more interested in a more scientific comparison between what their products actually compete against. Last edited by ZombieArmy; 01-22-2021 at 10:04 PM.

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carlb Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Perth, Western Australia Posts: 1,164	They might be reliable but i wouldn't buy an apple product if they were the last company on Earth

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normhead Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Near Algonquin Park Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 40,451 Original Poster	Originally posted by carlb They might be reliable but i wouldn't buy an apple product if they were the last company on Earth Well aren't you just all in our faces.

01-09-2021, 07:08 PM	#9
reeftool Pentaxian Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Upstate New York Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 9,555	Every Apple product I have owned has lasted well past the point where it has become obsolete. I'm using a 5 year old Mac mini. I have an 8 year old iPad that still works fine. I upgraded to an IPad Pro last year because some of the apps I needed would no longer run (like my car insurance app and a couple of banks). I still have a perfectly usable but obsolete iPhone 5s in a drawer somewhere. It got used for a while last year when my wifes Android phone died until we could get another phone. Down in the basement is an Apple lle we used decades ago back in the 80's. I played with it a couple of years ago. It would start up fine but the floppy drive wouldn't read anything. I have an Apple Watch also. It's a series 3 and still current. It's an excellent smartwatch but sucks as a serious exercise tracker so I rarely wear it anymore in favor of a Garmin Fenix 6.

01-09-2021, 07:16 PM - 1 Like	#10
carlb Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Perth, Western Australia Posts: 1,164	Originally posted by normhead Well aren't you just all in our faces. Don't worry Norm, I feel exactly the same way about Dell

01-09-2021, 07:23 PM	#11
boriscleto Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: North Syracuse, NY Photos: Gallery Posts: 16,477	Originally posted by reeftool I'm using a 5 year old Mac mini. . Mine is almost 12, but it's mostly a media server now.

01-10-2021, 04:11 AM - 1 Like	#12
Rondec Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Gladys, Virginia Photos: Gallery Posts: 27,663	Originally posted by carlb Don't worry Norm, I feel exactly the same way about Dell My wife got a Dell Laptop and it has had issues three different times. Fortunately (I guess) she bought a extended warranty on it, but it is still aggravating to have to box it up every four months and send it away to be repaired. I don't think I would buy another of their products based on this experience.

01-10-2021, 03:07 PM	#13
carlb Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Perth, Western Australia Posts: 1,164	Originally posted by Rondec My wife got a Dell Laptop and it has had issues three different times. Fortunately (I guess) she bought a extended warranty on it, but it is still aggravating to have to box it up every four months and send it away to be repaired. I don't think I would buy another of their products based on this experience. Nor would I. They left me (and my business) swinging in the breeze for a month while they refused to fix a problem until they finally relented and got a technician to come and fix it. They cost me countless lost hours. If they had simply replaced it with another laptop straight away then I'd have been back up and running and I'd be a customer for life. It would have cost them maybe a couple of hundred dollars (loose change for a company that size), but instead they faffed about and I'll never buy another Dell as long as I live.

01-23-2021, 12:48 AM - 2 Likes	#15
SpecialK Pentaxian Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: So California Photos: Gallery Posts: 16,482	My cheap ($139, incl set up) Samsung phone is 6 years old. Works fine. Drag-and-drop files. iTunes? No thanks.