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35mmfilmfan · 05-14-2021, 06:20 AM

Originally posted by carlb

What's a gallon??????

One Gallon is 0.00454609 cubic metres - thought everybody knew that

timb64 · 05-14-2021, 09:47 AM

Originally posted by Michael Piziak

I skimmed over, I admit, most of your comments.

So is the milk skimmed or semi-skimmed?.........Sorry!

Parallax · 05-14-2021, 09:58 AM

You could measure the container and do a bit of math, A gallon is defined by the FDA as 231 cubic inches.
CFR - Code of Federal Regulations Title 21

**aslyfox** · 05-14-2021, 10:07 AM

Originally posted by Michael Piziak

I skimmed over, . . .

Originally posted by timb64

So is the milk skimmed or semi-skimmed?.........Sorry!

1 % or 2 %

**boriscleto** · 05-14-2021, 10:18 AM

This discussion had better be lactose free...

reeftool · 05-14-2021, 10:21 AM

As long as the actual contents of the package are labeled, the size of the container is meaningless. Ice cream is another one. A lot of brands are now less than 1/2 gallon but the container is still pretty close to the same size as a normal 1/2 gallon. Expect to see a lot more of this as prices continue to rise. Put 96 ounces of milk in the gallon jug and sell it for the same price. Most people won't notice and as long as it's marked as 96 oz, no fraud has occurred. Snacks and cereal have been doing this forever, selling big bags or boxes that are half full.

stevebrot · 05-14-2021, 10:21 AM

Originally posted by Michael Piziak

I skimmed over, I admit, most of your comments.

Glad I am late to this thread...

Originally posted by Michael Piziak

The issue is we've grabbed what looks like a gallon of milk, got home, and it's actually a bit smaller and is less ounces.

Ummm...yes...did it say 1 gal on the shelf or on the receipt? FWIW, similar is done with soft drinks, chips, and candy. The containers in my fridge say 1 U.S. Gallon. The price label on the shelf said Gallon as did the promotional on-sale sign above the cooler. Ditto for the receipt.

The deceit you encountered is a sad thing and you did get caught by the ruse. You can complain, but the store manager is well-aware they don't sell milk by the gallon. Best to avoid doing business there.

Steve

stevebrot · 05-14-2021, 10:22 AM

Originally posted by reeftool

Ice cream is another one. A lot of brands are now less than 1/2 gallon but the container is still pretty close to the same size as a normal 1/2 gallon.

My pet peeve...

Steve

**MrNPhoto** · 05-14-2021, 11:36 AM

I've noticed that some of the 'specialty' milks are being sold in non-standard sizes here in the US.
Fairlife brand sells plastic jugs that are only 52oz in size, but are put on the same shelves as the 64oz half-gallons of other brands.
Lactaid sells plastic jugs with handles that are 96oz in size, but are put on the same shelves as the 128oz full-gallons.

I've also seen OJ moving to 96oz containers.

steephill · 05-14-2021, 12:02 PM

Our local supermarket (UK) sells the same milk in 2 pint and 1 litre (1.76 pints) containers which look very similar. They often put them on the same shelf next to each other so you need to be very careful that you have actually picked up the one you want.
I am sure they would claim to be offering the customer choice and won't admit to annoying them instead.

**luftfluss** · 05-14-2021, 12:20 PM

Perhaps we should ask a milkman...

You Tube

**StiffLegged** · 05-14-2021, 12:42 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by carlb

What's a gallon??????

Rather a lot of milk to drink in a single sitting.

And if it's an Imperial gallon it's 160 fl.oz. instead of that cheapskate 128 in a US gallon – even more of a challenge...

**boriscleto** · 05-14-2021, 12:46 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by luftfluss

Perhaps we should ask a milkman...

Monty Python: Seduced Milkmen - YouTube

Youtu.be

**richard0170** · 05-14-2021, 01:26 PM

What is the origin of the parsimonious US gallon? Why does the US even use the old imperial system, albeit distorted. I would have thought in the revolutionary fervour of the post War of Independence, the metric system would have been adopted.

**luftfluss** · 05-14-2021, 01:44 PM - **2 Likes**

Originally posted by richard0170

What is the origin of the parsimonious US gallon? Why does the US even use the old imperial system, albeit distorted. I would have thought in the revolutionary fervour of the post War of Independence, the metric system would have been adopted.

Here's an answer:

Quote:

Way back - at the time we all lived together - we had used the Queen Anne's gallon of 3.785l to measure wine. We also had different volumes and names to measure both beer and grain. When we realised that this was silly, in 1824, the UK chose a single imperial term and lumped together all three measurements, picking a roughly-average volume and calling it a gallon. American colonists, though, stuck to tradition and kept just the Queen Anne's volume for their own gallon definition.

US Gallons And Imperial Gallons - Why Are They Different?

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05-14-2021, 06:20 AM	#16
35mmfilmfan Pentaxian Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: Norfolk, UK Posts: 4,342	Originally posted by carlb What's a gallon?????? One Gallon is 0.00454609 cubic metres - thought everybody knew that

05-14-2021, 09:47 AM	#17
timb64 Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: /Situation : Doing my best to avoid idiots! Photos: Gallery Posts: 9,514	Originally posted by Michael Piziak I skimmed over, I admit, most of your comments. So is the milk skimmed or semi-skimmed?.........Sorry!

05-14-2021, 09:58 AM	#18
Parallax Senior Moderator Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: South Dakota Photos: Gallery Posts: 19,333	You could measure the container and do a bit of math, A gallon is defined by the FDA as 231 cubic inches. CFR - Code of Federal Regulations Title 21

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aslyfox Seeker of Knowledge Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Topeka, Kansas Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 24,583	Originally posted by Michael Piziak I skimmed over, . . . Originally posted by timb64 So is the milk skimmed or semi-skimmed?.........Sorry! 1 % or 2 %

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boriscleto Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: North Syracuse, NY Photos: Gallery Posts: 16,477	This discussion had better be lactose free...

05-14-2021, 10:21 AM	#21
reeftool Pentaxian Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Upstate New York Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 9,555	As long as the actual contents of the package are labeled, the size of the container is meaningless. Ice cream is another one. A lot of brands are now less than 1/2 gallon but the container is still pretty close to the same size as a normal 1/2 gallon. Expect to see a lot more of this as prices continue to rise. Put 96 ounces of milk in the gallon jug and sell it for the same price. Most people won't notice and as long as it's marked as 96 oz, no fraud has occurred. Snacks and cereal have been doing this forever, selling big bags or boxes that are half full.

05-14-2021, 10:21 AM	#22
stevebrot Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Vancouver (USA) Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 42,007	Originally posted by Michael Piziak I skimmed over, I admit, most of your comments. Glad I am late to this thread... Originally posted by Michael Piziak The issue is we've grabbed what looks like a gallon of milk, got home, and it's actually a bit smaller and is less ounces. Ummm...yes...did it say 1 gal on the shelf or on the receipt? FWIW, similar is done with soft drinks, chips, and candy. The containers in my fridge say 1 U.S. Gallon. The price label on the shelf said Gallon as did the promotional on-sale sign above the cooler. Ditto for the receipt. The deceit you encountered is a sad thing and you did get caught by the ruse. You can complain, but the store manager is well-aware they don't sell milk by the gallon. Best to avoid doing business there. Steve

05-14-2021, 10:22 AM	#23
stevebrot Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Vancouver (USA) Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 42,007	Originally posted by reeftool Ice cream is another one. A lot of brands are now less than 1/2 gallon but the container is still pretty close to the same size as a normal 1/2 gallon. My pet peeve... Steve

05-14-2021, 11:36 AM	#24
MrNPhoto Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Boston Photos: Gallery Posts: 276	I've noticed that some of the 'specialty' milks are being sold in non-standard sizes here in the US. Fairlife brand sells plastic jugs that are only 52oz in size, but are put on the same shelves as the 64oz half-gallons of other brands. Lactaid sells plastic jugs with handles that are 96oz in size, but are put on the same shelves as the 128oz full-gallons. I've also seen OJ moving to 96oz containers.

05-14-2021, 12:02 PM	#25
steephill Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2018 Photos: Albums Posts: 592	Our local supermarket (UK) sells the same milk in 2 pint and 1 litre (1.76 pints) containers which look very similar. They often put them on the same shelf next to each other so you need to be very careful that you have actually picked up the one you want. I am sure they would claim to be offering the customer choice and won't admit to annoying them instead.

05-14-2021, 12:42 PM - 1 Like	#27
StiffLegged Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2018 Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,640	Originally posted by carlb What's a gallon?????? Rather a lot of milk to drink in a single sitting. And if it's an Imperial gallon it's 160 fl.oz. instead of that cheapskate 128 in a US gallon – even more of a challenge...

05-14-2021, 01:26 PM	#29
richard0170 Site Supporter Join Date: Feb 2017 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,034	What is the origin of the parsimonious US gallon? Why does the US even use the old imperial system, albeit distorted. I would have thought in the revolutionary fervour of the post War of Independence, the metric system would have been adopted.

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luftfluss Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: NJ Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 11,629	Originally posted by richard0170 What is the origin of the parsimonious US gallon? Why does the US even use the old imperial system, albeit distorted. I would have thought in the revolutionary fervour of the post War of Independence, the metric system would have been adopted. Here's an answer: Quote: Way back - at the time we all lived together - we had used the Queen Anne's gallon of 3.785l to measure wine. We also had different volumes and names to measure both beer and grain. When we realised that this was silly, in 1824, the UK chose a single imperial term and lumped together all three measurements, picking a roughly-average volume and calling it a gallon. American colonists, though, stuck to tradition and kept just the Queen Anne's volume for their own gallon definition. US Gallons And Imperial Gallons - Why Are They Different?

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