D3X: Did the bar ever just get raised

Wheatfield · 12-01-2008, 09:27 PM

HOLY COW!!!

Nikon Press Center - NIKON UNVEILS A DIGITAL MASTERPIECE: THE D3X DIGITAL SLR

**Marc Langille** · 12-01-2008, 09:50 PM

Dang... that is serious!

I was watching with interest on whether or not Nikon's D3 successor would be something else. If it can toe the line on the noise levels as it did with resounding success in the D3 and D700 at high ISO (instead with that 24.5MP resolution), it's surpassed anything previously thought possible.

Same price point as the MK III DS... very interesting!

stevebrot · 12-01-2008, 10:21 PM

I am still plenty happy with my K10D, but I like the way the wind is blowing. It is only a matter of a few years and this sort of tool will be affordable and available to the masses. With any luck that future camera may even be a Pentax!

Steve

JonPB · 12-01-2008, 11:10 PM

$8,000. Excellence isn't an option at that price point. Did anyone expect something other than a faster, higher-res camera? Or am I missing something?

Sort of like everyone getting excited when Apple releases a new computer. Or, you know, the sun rises in the morning.

Then again, I can be cynical because I can't afford such a beast so I'll never be able to enjoy it. :P

EDIT: On second thought, maybe this is excellent news. If all of those pixels are *good* pixels, this is edging up into medium-format territory. A 35mm sensor will never be as good as a MF sensor, but its about the images, not the method. And if a FX camera from Nikon can compete with medium format, that might mean that Pentax will go for a full-frame camera rather than a medium format. Which would be great because almost all of my glass is from the film days.

stevebrot · 12-01-2008, 11:27 PM

Originally posted by JonPB

...And if a FX camera from Nikon can compete with medium format, that might mean that Pentax will go for a full-frame camera rather than a medium format. Which would be great because almost all of my glass is from the film days.

My thoughts exactly

Steve

(Really like my old K-mount glass...)

lbam · 12-02-2008, 12:41 AM

It's going to be interesting to see if it's high iso performance has actually lowerd compared to the D700 with all those pixels squeezed in there..

Maxington · 12-02-2008, 02:29 AM

Originally posted by JonPB

$8,000. Excellence isn't an option at that price point. Did anyone expect something other than a faster, higher-res camera? Or am I missing something?

Exactly, only Leica can get away with that price level for a crap camera, Nikon can't.

I think the Sony A900 is raising the bar far more than the D3X.

A lot of people feel the same, even Thom Hogan, the Nikon guy himself.

Livewireshock · 12-02-2008, 06:33 AM

138Mb RAW files too, at 5+fps equals full card with one press of the shutter button.

TaoMaas · 12-02-2008, 06:55 AM

Originally posted by JonPB

$8,000. Excellence isn't an option at that price point.

Right! 8 grand and you still haven't put a lens on it. Heck, I'd like to own a Ferrari, too, but at some point I have to get real.

Red · 12-02-2008, 06:58 AM

The D3x is just the response to Canon's 1DSIII.

Rumor is they will launch the Nikon MX (medium format) in February.

creampuff · 12-02-2008, 07:05 AM

Big camera with a big price tag = big hole in the pocket...
Not for me thanks.

pentkon52 · 12-02-2008, 08:53 AM

Originally posted by TaoMaas

Right! 8 grand and you still haven't put a lens on it. Heck, I'd like to own a Ferrari, too, but at some point I have to get real.

The 70-200 F2.8 VR is selling for under $1800 Canadian around here.

Cheap.

Dave

k100d · 12-02-2008, 08:54 AM

nikon does not have any newly available primes worth owning <50mm
but they've got the key zooms 14-24,17-35,24-70,70-200 unfortunately all at $1500+

Isaac314 · 12-02-2008, 11:46 AM

d3x apparently is a bit crap and still beat by the d700 on image quality and overall not enough improvement over the d3.

there is news of a boycott... until the price is slashed at least.

Blue · 12-02-2008, 12:22 PM

I guess Pentax better trot out that 645D asap.

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12-01-2008, 09:50 PM	#2
Marc Langille Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: NW Arkansas, USA Posts: 4,710	Dang... that is serious! I was watching with interest on whether or not Nikon's D3 successor would be something else. If it can toe the line on the noise levels as it did with resounding success in the D3 and D700 at high ISO (instead with that 24.5MP resolution), it's surpassed anything previously thought possible. Same price point as the MK III DS... very interesting!

12-01-2008, 10:21 PM	#3
stevebrot Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Vancouver (USA) Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 42,007	I am still plenty happy with my K10D, but I like the way the wind is blowing. It is only a matter of a few years and this sort of tool will be affordable and available to the masses. With any luck that future camera may even be a Pentax! Steve

12-01-2008, 11:10 PM	#4
JonPB Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Portland, OR, USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 430	$8,000. Excellence isn't an option at that price point. Did anyone expect something other than a faster, higher-res camera? Or am I missing something? Sort of like everyone getting excited when Apple releases a new computer. Or, you know, the sun rises in the morning. Then again, I can be cynical because I can't afford such a beast so I'll never be able to enjoy it. :P EDIT: On second thought, maybe this is excellent news. If all of those pixels are good pixels, this is edging up into medium-format territory. A 35mm sensor will never be as good as a MF sensor, but its about the images, not the method. And if a FX camera from Nikon can compete with medium format, that might mean that Pentax will go for a full-frame camera rather than a medium format. Which would be great because almost all of my glass is from the film days.

12-01-2008, 11:27 PM	#5
stevebrot Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Vancouver (USA) Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 42,007	Originally posted by JonPB ...And if a FX camera from Nikon can compete with medium format, that might mean that Pentax will go for a full-frame camera rather than a medium format. Which would be great because almost all of my glass is from the film days. My thoughts exactly Steve (Really like my old K-mount glass...)

12-02-2008, 12:41 AM	#6
lbam Veteran Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Toronto Photos: Gallery Posts: 442	It's going to be interesting to see if it's high iso performance has actually lowerd compared to the D700 with all those pixels squeezed in there..

12-02-2008, 02:29 AM	#7
Maxington Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Australia Posts: 255	Originally posted by JonPB $8,000. Excellence isn't an option at that price point. Did anyone expect something other than a faster, higher-res camera? Or am I missing something? Exactly, only Leica can get away with that price level for a crap camera, Nikon can't. I think the Sony A900 is raising the bar far more than the D3X. A lot of people feel the same, even Thom Hogan, the Nikon guy himself.

12-02-2008, 06:33 AM	#8
Livewireshock Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Lismore, NSW, Australia Photos: Gallery Posts: 144	138Mb RAW files too, at 5+fps equals full card with one press of the shutter button.

12-02-2008, 06:55 AM	#9
TaoMaas Pentaxian Join Date: May 2007 Location: Oklahoma City Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,574	Originally posted by JonPB $8,000. Excellence isn't an option at that price point. Right! 8 grand and you still haven't put a lens on it. Heck, I'd like to own a Ferrari, too, but at some point I have to get real.

12-02-2008, 06:58 AM	#10
Red Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Suwanee, GA USA Posts: 153	The D3x is just the response to Canon's 1DSIII. Rumor is they will launch the Nikon MX (medium format) in February.

12-02-2008, 07:05 AM	#11
creampuff Veteran Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Singapore Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,953	Big camera with a big price tag = big hole in the pocket... Not for me thanks.

12-02-2008, 08:53 AM	#12
pentkon52 Veteran Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: York Region Canada Posts: 641	Originally posted by TaoMaas Right! 8 grand and you still haven't put a lens on it. Heck, I'd like to own a Ferrari, too, but at some point I have to get real. The 70-200 F2.8 VR is selling for under $1800 Canadian around here. Cheap. Dave

12-02-2008, 08:54 AM	#13
k100d Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Toronto Posts: 3,911	nikon does not have any newly available primes worth owning <50mm but they've got the key zooms 14-24,17-35,24-70,70-200 unfortunately all at $1500+

12-02-2008, 11:46 AM	#14
Isaac314 Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: London Photos: Gallery Posts: 417	d3x apparently is a bit crap and still beat by the d700 on image quality and overall not enough improvement over the d3. there is news of a boycott... until the price is slashed at least.

12-02-2008, 12:22 PM	#15
Blue Moderator Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Florida Hill Country Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 17,377	I guess Pentax better trot out that 645D asap.