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12-04-2021, 05:37 PM   #1
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English teenager finds 3000 year old Bronze Age ax/axe

https://www.yahoo.com/news/english-teenager-finds-bronze-age-153055875.html


Story says they did the"Gold Dance"...


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12-05-2021, 07:36 AM   #2
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May I point out that, as it was found in England, it was more correctly an 'Axe', not an 'Ax'.
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Perhaps post it on a Detectorist forum...
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May I point out that, as it was found in England, it was more correctly an 'Axe', not an 'Ax'.

Funny, that's the way I originally typed it; I changed it to match the Yahoo News/New York Times headline which uses the American spelling without the "e" at the end.


Noah Webster said adding the "e" at the end is incorrect:

http://webstersdictionary1828.com/Dictionary/ax


See also:

https://www.merriam-webster.com/words-at-play/ax-vs-axe-difference

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QuoteOriginally posted by ChrisPlatt Quote
Funny, that's the way I originally typed it; I changed it to match the Yahoo News/New York Times headline which uses the American spelling without the "e" at the end.


Noah Webster said adding the "e" at the end is incorrect:

http://webstersdictionary1828.com/Dictionary/ax
I can imagine what an "English Dictionary of the American Language" might say. Noah might have thought that improper in 1828, but that was almost 200 years ago in a land far, far away...
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Noah might have thought that improper in 1828, but that was almost 200 years ago in a land far, far away...

FWIW most of his reforms, rationalizations and simplifications were adopted and are still in use today.
Webster's Dictionary is still the most authoritative in USA.

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QuoteOriginally posted by 35mmfilmfan Quote
May I point out that, as it was found in England, it was more correctly an 'Axe', not an 'Ax'.
Only since the 18th century. "Ax" and "Axe" is interesting in that one would think that "Axe" is the older spelling, but actually "Ax" is the older spelling and prior to the 1700's "Ax" was the preferred spelling, also in England.

The word "Axe" dates to 1670 at the earliest while "Ax" dates from the 1400's or before, maybe as early as the 8th century.

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QuoteOriginally posted by ChrisPlatt Quote
FWIW most of his reforms, rationalizations and simplifications were adopted and are still in use today.
Webster's Dictionary is still the most authoritative in USA.

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Indeed, but elsewhere it’s like Outer Mongolia - its existence is known of, but rarely acknowledged. We’d use the Oxford English Dictionary or OED.
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I've always wanted a set of the OED. 20 volumes, 600,000 words and 2.4 million quotations. £862.50.
Maybe one day.
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Indeed, but elsewhere it’s like Outer Mongolia - its existence is known of, but rarely acknowledged. We’d use the Oxford English Dictionary or OED.
Yup you wouldn't get anywhere complaining your word is in Webster's dictionary on Countdown unless it is also listed as an alternative spelling in the OED.

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I've always wanted a set of the OED. 20 volumes, 600,000 words and 2.4 million quotations. £862.50.
Maybe one day.

What do British students keep at their desks at school?
In USA every kid has a well-worn paperback copy of Webster's.

Not long ago after the sale of their first published work a writer might reward himself or herself with a full set of the OED.
Now I suppose spellcheck, and words (and ideas ) gleaned from The Internet are probably considered sufficient.

This discussion reminds me I've often wondered about the origin of this famous quote:

https://quoteinvestigator.com/2016/04/03/common/

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I've always wanted a set of the OED. 20 volumes, 600,000 words and 2.4 million quotations. £862.50.
I understand it is no longer available in printed form, only electronically. The market must have been very small. I have the Shorter Oxford English Dictionary, two heavy volumes. I will look up "Ax" later, to see what it has to say.
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Boy did this thread go off track in a hurry.

Metal detecting was a hobby of mine back when I was able to bend, or squat, to dig targets.
Thanks OP for the link and a reminder I need to watch the Detectorist series again.
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I understand it is no longer available in printed form, only electronically. The market must have been very small. I have the Shorter Oxford English Dictionary, two heavy volumes. I will look up "Ax" later, to see what it has to say.
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QuoteOriginally posted by ChrisPlatt Quote
What do British students keep at their desks at school?

In USA every kid has a well-worn paperback copy of Webster's.



Not long ago after the sale of their first published work a writer might reward himself or herself with a full set of the OED.

Now I suppose spellcheck, and words (and ideas ) gleaned from The Internet are probably considered sufficient.



This discussion reminds me I've often wondered about the origin of this famous quote:



https://quoteinvestigator.com/2016/04/03/common/



Chris
I have always thought that it was "Stabiliser" not "Stabilizer" in the UK but I just checked in the Shorter OED and the version with the "s" isn't even mentioned as an alternative. Other similar words list both forms.
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And here our most authoritative dictionary (Diccionario de la Lengua Española, 23rd edition, published by the 23 Language Academies for the different Spanish-speaking countries as a joint effort) has only about 93000 words... in a compact 3000 pages .
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