They used my picture from Flickr on Face Book.

Ratmagiclady · 12-11-2008, 08:49 AM

Ooh, give my regards to the Brass Cat, though.

It's one reason I'm reluctant to post anything I might do trade on on these free accounts, (Hasn't been a big problem so far, since I've only really been playing with a bridge camera, as regards digital) ... the stuff could end up anywhere. Though, I hear you can pay for 'pro' accounts and apparently retain all the rights, period.

vievetrick · 12-11-2008, 08:08 PM

I took it easy on them

Pat B:
Joined, but not sure if I can attend. Really joined because of the great picture of the sign that is the logo. It looks so familiar…. Wait that’s because it is mine

Ahh Flickr / (the internet in general) post your pictures and anyone could use them with out asking. I just wish someone would have asked

. Great list of pubs and hope you all have fun. If I run into you the least someone could do is buy me a drink and we can call it even.

pete_pf · 05-27-2009, 01:53 PM

so .... curious. what happened with the photo? i see it's still up there on the group, did you hear back from them?

Mountain Vision · 06-03-2009, 01:44 AM

Originally posted by lithos

This is exactly why I don't use Flickr, and why I never tag photos in Photobucket.

First of all, read the EULA and find out if you've already agreed to this.

Anyway, if you find people stealing your images annoying, stop using Flickr and find another host. Or at least stop tagging.

Everyone from [urlhttp://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20896643/]Virgin Mobile[/url] to pornographers troll Flickr for free photos.

Actually you can lock your photos down on flickr as tight as you want. You might agree to let flickr partners display them, but only if you don't copyright them, or leave them fully open. You don't want them downloaded, simply lock the permissions down and set them to Family only. Then don't "friend" anyone as family. Voila, no one can get to your photostream, but you can still post them where you want.

I have mine setup to only allow my contacts to view and download, I don't add everyone that contacts me as a contact, mainly people I know, or people who have a legit reason to want/need access to my stream. I have dabbled between making them only avail to friends and family, and might go back to that in the future if my contacts continue to grow. Then I will just add trusted people as "friends" and be done with it.

People don't actually understand how flickr works, or they just don't like it, and thus don't care how it works. I look daily at where my photos are being used since I have a pro account. I've occasionally found some "misuse" I contact the site owner, and ask them to either pull the photos if I don't want them used, or in many cases just credit me. I prefer the exposure which is free advertising on sites I might not get it. For instance I cannot legally sell my hockey shots, too bad, but I don't mind the return hits to my stream, and to my blog. I've sold quite a few alternate prints like that, as well as gotten a few gigs.

Besides, any image you post to the web, I can download in some form or fashion. Even those cute flash sites are defeatable. If you don't want it seen, don't post it. But honestly, I'd find it impossible to make web sales without online advertising (aka, posting them).

Even under copyright law, photos that have been publicly posted, while not public, don't have the same level of protection as a never before posted image. If you image is truly special, and so unique that it is going to be saleable in such a way that you would gain immense profit, leave it off the web till it sells.

alohadave · 06-03-2009, 01:03 PM

Originally posted by Mountain Vision

Even under copyright law, photos that have been publicly posted, while not public, don't have the same level of protection as a never before posted image. If you image is truly special, and so unique that it is going to be saleable in such a way that you would gain immense profit, leave it off the web till it sells.

That is absolutely wrong. Anything that you have created has full copyright protection, whether you never show it to anyone, or if you post it online.

Jasvox · 06-03-2009, 11:36 PM

I don't see what the big deal is with someone using your photograph for something that is a non-revenue generating purpose (Facebook page). If it's an ego thing, just ask them to post a credit for the photo, otherwise watermark your photos. On the other hand, if someone takes your photos and puts in into a book, or any kind of revenue generated publication, then you should feel obligated to ask for payment for the photos. My philosophy is, if you are going to put your photos on an online web hosting site, be aware that people can basically do anything they want with them...ethically or not.

At the end of the day, you just have to ask yourself, is it a big deal or not?

Jason

KrisK10D · 06-04-2009, 06:00 AM

Funny this came up... I was asked by a Flickr group if they could use one of the pics I took for the Travelling Nifty Fifty lens. I am yet to figure out how to contact the guy to tell him he can.

Yeh... I'm a bit blonde when it comes to Flickr

alohadave · 06-04-2009, 06:26 AM

Originally posted by KrisK10D

Funny this came up... I was asked by a Flickr group if they could use one of the pics I took for the Travelling Nifty Fifty lens. I am yet to figure out how to contact the guy to tell him he can.

Yeh... I'm a bit blonde when it comes to Flickr

If they sent you a flickrmail, you can click on Reply on the message. If you can't find the message, click on the envelope icon at the very top of any page.

KrisK10D · 06-04-2009, 06:32 AM

Originally posted by alohadave

If they sent you a flickrmail, you can click on Reply on the message. If you can't find the message, click on the envelope icon at the very top of any page.

They left a comment on the photo. There's a linky to the group but I can't figure out how to send a message to the guy without registering

EDIT: OK... disregard my last. I signed onto the nifty50mm account and was able to send him a Flickr email. Crisis over

Mike Cash · 06-06-2009, 04:42 AM

Originally posted by Jasvox

I don't see what the big deal is with someone using your photograph for something that is a non-revenue generating purpose (Facebook page). If it's an ego thing, just ask them to post a credit for the photo

When I "bust" people who have snagged one of my photos I usually leave a comment on their blog thanking them for liking my photo, granting them retroactive permission to use it, and asking them to at least tell me they plan to use it.

I liken it to having a kindergarten kid chosen to appear in a play or pageant. I have no objection and it is certainly no big deal....but as the "parent" I'd like to know about it so I can go look at it too.

06-04-2009, 06:32 AM	#24
KrisK10D Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Sydney, Australia Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,274	Originally posted by alohadave If they sent you a flickrmail, you can click on Reply on the message. If you can't find the message, click on the envelope icon at the very top of any page. They left a comment on the photo. There's a linky to the group but I can't figure out how to send a message to the guy without registering EDIT: OK... disregard my last. I signed onto the nifty50mm account and was able to send him a Flickr email. Crisis over Last edited by KrisK10D; 06-04-2009 at 06:47 AM.

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12-11-2008, 08:49 AM	#16
Ratmagiclady Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: GA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 13,563	Ooh, give my regards to the Brass Cat, though. It's one reason I'm reluctant to post anything I might do trade on on these free accounts, (Hasn't been a big problem so far, since I've only really been playing with a bridge camera, as regards digital) ... the stuff could end up anywhere. Though, I hear you can pay for 'pro' accounts and apparently retain all the rights, period.

12-11-2008, 08:08 PM	#17
vievetrick Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Easthampton - Massachusetts - USA Photos: Gallery Posts: 5,183 Original Poster	I took it easy on them Pat B: Joined, but not sure if I can attend. Really joined because of the great picture of the sign that is the logo. It looks so familiar…. Wait that’s because it is mine Ahh Flickr / (the internet in general) post your pictures and anyone could use them with out asking. I just wish someone would have asked . Great list of pubs and hope you all have fun. If I run into you the least someone could do is buy me a drink and we can call it even.

05-27-2009, 01:53 PM	#18
pete_pf Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 599	so .... curious. what happened with the photo? i see it's still up there on the group, did you hear back from them?

06-03-2009, 01:44 AM	#19
Mountain Vision Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: America's First Wilderness Posts: 529	Originally posted by lithos This is exactly why I don't use Flickr, and why I never tag photos in Photobucket. First of all, read the EULA and find out if you've already agreed to this. Anyway, if you find people stealing your images annoying, stop using Flickr and find another host. Or at least stop tagging. Everyone from [urlhttp://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20896643/]Virgin Mobile[/url] to pornographers troll Flickr for free photos. Actually you can lock your photos down on flickr as tight as you want. You might agree to let flickr partners display them, but only if you don't copyright them, or leave them fully open. You don't want them downloaded, simply lock the permissions down and set them to Family only. Then don't "friend" anyone as family. Voila, no one can get to your photostream, but you can still post them where you want. I have mine setup to only allow my contacts to view and download, I don't add everyone that contacts me as a contact, mainly people I know, or people who have a legit reason to want/need access to my stream. I have dabbled between making them only avail to friends and family, and might go back to that in the future if my contacts continue to grow. Then I will just add trusted people as "friends" and be done with it. People don't actually understand how flickr works, or they just don't like it, and thus don't care how it works. I look daily at where my photos are being used since I have a pro account. I've occasionally found some "misuse" I contact the site owner, and ask them to either pull the photos if I don't want them used, or in many cases just credit me. I prefer the exposure which is free advertising on sites I might not get it. For instance I cannot legally sell my hockey shots, too bad, but I don't mind the return hits to my stream, and to my blog. I've sold quite a few alternate prints like that, as well as gotten a few gigs. Besides, any image you post to the web, I can download in some form or fashion. Even those cute flash sites are defeatable. If you don't want it seen, don't post it. But honestly, I'd find it impossible to make web sales without online advertising (aka, posting them). Even under copyright law, photos that have been publicly posted, while not public, don't have the same level of protection as a never before posted image. If you image is truly special, and so unique that it is going to be saleable in such a way that you would gain immense profit, leave it off the web till it sells.

06-03-2009, 01:03 PM	#20
alohadave Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Quincy, MA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,024	Originally posted by Mountain Vision Even under copyright law, photos that have been publicly posted, while not public, don't have the same level of protection as a never before posted image. If you image is truly special, and so unique that it is going to be saleable in such a way that you would gain immense profit, leave it off the web till it sells. That is absolutely wrong. Anything that you have created has full copyright protection, whether you never show it to anyone, or if you post it online.

06-03-2009, 11:36 PM	#21
Jasvox Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 3,107	I don't see what the big deal is with someone using your photograph for something that is a non-revenue generating purpose (Facebook page). If it's an ego thing, just ask them to post a credit for the photo, otherwise watermark your photos. On the other hand, if someone takes your photos and puts in into a book, or any kind of revenue generated publication, then you should feel obligated to ask for payment for the photos. My philosophy is, if you are going to put your photos on an online web hosting site, be aware that people can basically do anything they want with them...ethically or not. At the end of the day, you just have to ask yourself, is it a big deal or not? Jason

06-04-2009, 06:00 AM	#22
KrisK10D Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Sydney, Australia Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,274	Funny this came up... I was asked by a Flickr group if they could use one of the pics I took for the Travelling Nifty Fifty lens. I am yet to figure out how to contact the guy to tell him he can. Yeh... I'm a bit blonde when it comes to Flickr

06-04-2009, 06:26 AM	#23
alohadave Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Quincy, MA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,024	Originally posted by KrisK10D Funny this came up... I was asked by a Flickr group if they could use one of the pics I took for the Travelling Nifty Fifty lens. I am yet to figure out how to contact the guy to tell him he can. Yeh... I'm a bit blonde when it comes to Flickr If they sent you a flickrmail, you can click on Reply on the message. If you can't find the message, click on the envelope icon at the very top of any page.

06-06-2009, 04:42 AM	#25
Mike Cash Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Japan Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,950	Originally posted by Jasvox I don't see what the big deal is with someone using your photograph for something that is a non-revenue generating purpose (Facebook page). If it's an ego thing, just ask them to post a credit for the photo When I "bust" people who have snagged one of my photos I usually leave a comment on their blog thanking them for liking my photo, granting them retroactive permission to use it, and asking them to at least tell me they plan to use it. I liken it to having a kindergarten kid chosen to appear in a play or pageant. I have no objection and it is certainly no big deal....but as the "parent" I'd like to know about it so I can go look at it too.

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