You know the roads are icy when....

ve2vfd · 01-15-2009, 01:03 PM

Votre Météo: Vidéos Sélectionnées - MétéoMédia

Thats winter in the province of Quebec...

It's filmed in Vaudreuil, a western suburb of Montreal.

Pat

graphicgr8s · 01-15-2009, 02:43 PM

Interesting. As I stand here in Florida getting ready to build my pvc hoop house to protect my 'maters and eggplant from tonight's hard freeze all I can say is Global Warming my A$$

**NaClH2O** · 01-17-2009, 04:37 PM

Originally posted by graphicgr8s

Interesting. As I stand here in Florida getting ready to build my pvc hoop house to protect my 'maters and eggplant from tonight's hard freeze all I can say is Global Warming my A$$

If you take a system and put more energy into it than has been the "norm" you will get all kinds of strange effects. Design a very complicated electronic circuit and then add another few milliamps. See what happens. Weather is "generally" getting warmer. But all over it's getting stranger!

NaCl(and it will get even weirder if the Gulf current shuts down)H2O

**NaClH2O** · 01-17-2009, 04:40 PM

Nice! When I lived in Syracuse NY we would have frequent ice storms in early winter. I would sometimes put on my speed skates and go out as it was the only way to get around! But I was nowhere as good as the skater in that video.

NaCl(I was happy if I could get from point A to point B)H2O

**dadipentak** · 01-17-2009, 04:48 PM

I tried to play that video but it's in french ! ;~) All we've got here is frozen mud.

reeftool · 01-17-2009, 05:11 PM

It looked like that here after the december ice storm. At least it wasn't as bad as 98.

Blue · 01-17-2009, 05:24 PM

Originally posted by graphicgr8s

Interesting. As I stand here in Florida getting ready to build my pvc hoop house to protect my 'maters and eggplant from tonight's hard freeze all I can say is Global Warming my A$$

Its "climate change" . . . get it right!

We need to get Al Gore on this thing before all the palm trees freeze to death.

Hey Elwood · 01-18-2009, 06:44 PM

Originally posted by graphicgr8s

Interesting. As I stand here in Florida getting ready to build my pvc hoop house to protect my 'maters and eggplant from tonight's hard freeze all I can say is Global Warming my A$$

I agree with you Graphic 150% on this. It been snowing here in the Detroit area for over 3 months now...and it's only January. Plus we have been having record low temperatures (we were actually colder then the North Pole at 1 point). I find it funny we haven't heard a thing from Al Gore recently. My opinion...he's an idiot. Maybe the temperature is warming but I don't think we as humans have much of an effect on it.

All I have to say it take a look at how much CO2 was pumped into the atmosphere when Mt. St. Helens blew (more CO2 in 1 eruption then we pumped out in 100 years). And after it happened it got extremely cold...weird huh. Also, you have to look at all the solar flares that have been happening in the last few years. I think our temperature shifting has more to do with that then how much I drive my car.

If you really want to get an interesting perspective on things read a book called "State of Fear" by Michael Crichton. Look who is give us the information we are getting, check out who they are getting paid by, and see where their interests lie. In other words...follow the money trail. Fear makes for big profits.

graphicgr8s · 01-18-2009, 07:17 PM

Originally posted by Hey Elwood

I agree with you Graphic 150% on this. It been snowing here in the Detroit area for over 3 months now...and it's only January. Plus we have been having record low temperatures (we were actually colder then the North Pole at 1 point). I find it funny we haven't heard a thing from Al Gore recently. My opinion...he's an idiot. Maybe the temperature is warming but I don't think we as humans have much of an effect on it.

All I have to say it take a look at how much CO2 was pumped into the atmosphere when Mt. St. Helens blew (more CO2 in 1 eruption then we pumped out in 100 years). And after it happened it got extremely cold...weird huh. Also, you have to look at all the solar flares that have been happening in the last few years. I think our temperature shifting has more to do with that then how much I drive my car.

If you really want to get an interesting perspective on things read a book called "State of Fear" by Michael Crichton. Look who is give us the information we are getting, check out who they are getting paid by, and see where their interests lie. In other words...follow the money trail. Fear makes for big profits.

Elwood, it was meant as tongue-in-cheek. I do resent however your insult to idiots. They get mighty offended when you put AlGore in the same class as them.
I remember back in the 70's global cooling, the next ice age. Yea right. They can't predict the weather for tomorrow let alone ten years from now. I've seen the reports of borings done where Greenland or Iceland or the Antartic I don't remember which but it was tropical.

I read all the stuff on this (hundreds of different reports and almost as many scientists) and more likely than not it is a cyclical deal. Just a longer cycle than these "scientists" are accustomed to.

Hey Blue. You're wrong it's not climate change it's a bunch of crapola

For Damn Brit:

:ugh:

Hey Elwood · 01-18-2009, 07:43 PM

[QUOTE=graphicgr8s;456125]Elwood, it was meant as tongue-in-cheek. I do resent however your insult to idiots. They get mighty offended when you put AlGore in the same class as them.
I remember back in the 70's global cooling, the next ice age. Yea right. They can't predict the weather for tomorrow let alone ten years from now. I've seen the reports of borings done where Greenland or Iceland or the Antartic I don't remember which but it was tropical.

I read all the stuff on this (hundreds of different reports and almost as many scientists) and more likely than not it is a cyclical deal. Just a longer cycle than these "scientists" are accustomed to.

Hey Blue. You're wrong it's not climate change it's a bunch of crapola

For Damn Brit:

You make a great point,

I can see where idots would be offend by me putting Al Gore in the same class. I only brought him up to that level because he was the one who invented the internet and all

Blue · 01-18-2009, 08:51 PM

Originally posted by graphicgr8s

Hey Blue. . . it's a bunch of crapola

I need some horse crapola for my banana. It damn near froze to death night before last.

Aaron1971 · 01-19-2009, 12:49 AM

The difference between the talk in the 70's and now is that major governmental decisions today are going to be based on this baloney!

Blue · 01-19-2009, 12:08 PM

Originally posted by Aaron1971

The difference between the talk in the 70's and now is that major governmental decisions today are going to be based on this baloney!

There was a couple of people interviewed on the NPR show "Splendid Table" last night. One was a young woman and the other was a independent film maker making a movie called King Corn. They are wanting to change our entire agriculture system to a sustainable small family farm organic system and for all the cities to get there food from these local farms. I am not talking about classic 640 acre working family farms either. Many of the farms they are referring to are anywhere from 5 acres to 40 acres. There are larger ones but they are the exception and not the rule. The film maker went on to point out that a kiwi produced in New Zealand had a smaller carbon print than a tomato grown in New Jersey. He didn't take into account the fuel to get the kiwi to NY. Nor did he take into account that the tomato is more important in the grand scheme of FOOD than the kiwi. Anyway, they want B. H. Obama to pick a Sec of the Dept of Agriculture (USDA) than can transition us a painlessly as possible. I never new they taught things like agronomy, plant pathology, entomology, botany, etc. in film school.

Alfisti · 01-19-2009, 12:26 PM

Originally posted by Hey Elwood

Maybe the temperature is warming but I don't think we as humans have much of an effect on it.

Good grief. Forget the politics, you honestly think we can pump billions of tonnes of crap into the atmosphere and it will not affect the planet?

At some point, you reap what you sow.

Hey Elwood · 01-19-2009, 01:22 PM

Originally posted by Alfisti

Good grief. Forget the politics, you honestly think we can pump billions of tonnes of crap into the atmosphere and it will not affect the planet?

At some point, you reap what you sow.

Why not, nature does it all the time to itself and the earth is still here.

01-15-2009, 01:03 PM	#1
ve2vfd Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Montreal, Canada Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,433	You know the roads are icy when.... Votre Météo: Vidéos Sélectionnées - MétéoMédia Thats winter in the province of Quebec... It's filmed in Vaudreuil, a western suburb of Montreal. Pat

01-17-2009, 04:37 PM	#3
NaClH2O Site Supporter Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Bronx NY Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 5,631	"Global Weirding" would be a better title. Originally posted by graphicgr8s Interesting. As I stand here in Florida getting ready to build my pvc hoop house to protect my 'maters and eggplant from tonight's hard freeze all I can say is Global Warming my A$$ If you take a system and put more energy into it than has been the "norm" you will get all kinds of strange effects. Design a very complicated electronic circuit and then add another few milliamps. See what happens. Weather is "generally" getting warmer. But all over it's getting stranger! NaCl(and it will get even weirder if the Gulf current shuts down)H2O

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01-15-2009, 02:43 PM	#2
graphicgr8s Guest	Interesting. As I stand here in Florida getting ready to build my pvc hoop house to protect my 'maters and eggplant from tonight's hard freeze all I can say is Global Warming my A$$

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NaClH2O Site Supporter Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Bronx NY Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 5,631	Nice! When I lived in Syracuse NY we would have frequent ice storms in early winter. I would sometimes put on my speed skates and go out as it was the only way to get around! But I was nowhere as good as the skater in that video. NaCl(I was happy if I could get from point A to point B)H2O

01-17-2009, 04:48 PM	#5
dadipentak Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Baltimore, Maryland Photos: Gallery Posts: 11,590	I tried to play that video but it's in french ! ;~) All we've got here is frozen mud.

01-17-2009, 05:11 PM	#6
reeftool Pentaxian Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Upstate New York Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 9,555	It looked like that here after the december ice storm. At least it wasn't as bad as 98.

01-17-2009, 05:24 PM	#7
Blue Moderator Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Florida Hill Country Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 17,377	Originally posted by graphicgr8s Interesting. As I stand here in Florida getting ready to build my pvc hoop house to protect my 'maters and eggplant from tonight's hard freeze all I can say is Global Warming my A$$ Its "climate change" . . . get it right! We need to get Al Gore on this thing before all the palm trees freeze to death.

01-18-2009, 06:44 PM	#8
Hey Elwood Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Highland, MI Posts: 336	Originally posted by graphicgr8s Interesting. As I stand here in Florida getting ready to build my pvc hoop house to protect my 'maters and eggplant from tonight's hard freeze all I can say is Global Warming my A$$ I agree with you Graphic 150% on this. It been snowing here in the Detroit area for over 3 months now...and it's only January. Plus we have been having record low temperatures (we were actually colder then the North Pole at 1 point). I find it funny we haven't heard a thing from Al Gore recently. My opinion...he's an idiot. Maybe the temperature is warming but I don't think we as humans have much of an effect on it. All I have to say it take a look at how much CO2 was pumped into the atmosphere when Mt. St. Helens blew (more CO2 in 1 eruption then we pumped out in 100 years). And after it happened it got extremely cold...weird huh. Also, you have to look at all the solar flares that have been happening in the last few years. I think our temperature shifting has more to do with that then how much I drive my car. If you really want to get an interesting perspective on things read a book called "State of Fear" by Michael Crichton. Look who is give us the information we are getting, check out who they are getting paid by, and see where their interests lie. In other words...follow the money trail. Fear makes for big profits.

01-18-2009, 07:17 PM	#9
graphicgr8s Guest	Originally posted by Hey Elwood I agree with you Graphic 150% on this. It been snowing here in the Detroit area for over 3 months now...and it's only January. Plus we have been having record low temperatures (we were actually colder then the North Pole at 1 point). I find it funny we haven't heard a thing from Al Gore recently. My opinion...he's an idiot. Maybe the temperature is warming but I don't think we as humans have much of an effect on it. All I have to say it take a look at how much CO2 was pumped into the atmosphere when Mt. St. Helens blew (more CO2 in 1 eruption then we pumped out in 100 years). And after it happened it got extremely cold...weird huh. Also, you have to look at all the solar flares that have been happening in the last few years. I think our temperature shifting has more to do with that then how much I drive my car. If you really want to get an interesting perspective on things read a book called "State of Fear" by Michael Crichton. Look who is give us the information we are getting, check out who they are getting paid by, and see where their interests lie. In other words...follow the money trail. Fear makes for big profits. Elwood, it was meant as tongue-in-cheek. I do resent however your insult to idiots. They get mighty offended when you put AlGore in the same class as them. I remember back in the 70's global cooling, the next ice age. Yea right. They can't predict the weather for tomorrow let alone ten years from now. I've seen the reports of borings done where Greenland or Iceland or the Antartic I don't remember which but it was tropical. I read all the stuff on this (hundreds of different reports and almost as many scientists) and more likely than not it is a cyclical deal. Just a longer cycle than these "scientists" are accustomed to. Hey Blue. You're wrong it's not climate change it's a bunch of crapola For Damn Brit: :ugh:

01-18-2009, 07:43 PM	#10
Hey Elwood Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Highland, MI Posts: 336	[QUOTE=graphicgr8s;456125]Elwood, it was meant as tongue-in-cheek. I do resent however your insult to idiots. They get mighty offended when you put AlGore in the same class as them. I remember back in the 70's global cooling, the next ice age. Yea right. They can't predict the weather for tomorrow let alone ten years from now. I've seen the reports of borings done where Greenland or Iceland or the Antartic I don't remember which but it was tropical. I read all the stuff on this (hundreds of different reports and almost as many scientists) and more likely than not it is a cyclical deal. Just a longer cycle than these "scientists" are accustomed to. Hey Blue. You're wrong it's not climate change it's a bunch of crapola For Damn Brit: You make a great point, I can see where idots would be offend by me putting Al Gore in the same class. I only brought him up to that level because he was the one who invented the internet and all

01-18-2009, 08:51 PM	#11
Blue Moderator Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Florida Hill Country Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 17,377	Originally posted by graphicgr8s Hey Blue. . . it's a bunch of crapola I need some horse crapola for my banana. It damn near froze to death night before last.

01-19-2009, 12:49 AM	#12
Aaron1971 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Yokosuka, Japan Photos: Gallery Posts: 162	The difference between the talk in the 70's and now is that major governmental decisions today are going to be based on this baloney!

01-19-2009, 12:08 PM	#13
Blue Moderator Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Florida Hill Country Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 17,377	Originally posted by Aaron1971 The difference between the talk in the 70's and now is that major governmental decisions today are going to be based on this baloney! There was a couple of people interviewed on the NPR show "Splendid Table" last night. One was a young woman and the other was a independent film maker making a movie called King Corn. They are wanting to change our entire agriculture system to a sustainable small family farm organic system and for all the cities to get there food from these local farms. I am not talking about classic 640 acre working family farms either. Many of the farms they are referring to are anywhere from 5 acres to 40 acres. There are larger ones but they are the exception and not the rule. The film maker went on to point out that a kiwi produced in New Zealand had a smaller carbon print than a tomato grown in New Jersey. He didn't take into account the fuel to get the kiwi to NY. Nor did he take into account that the tomato is more important in the grand scheme of FOOD than the kiwi. Anyway, they want B. H. Obama to pick a Sec of the Dept of Agriculture (USDA) than can transition us a painlessly as possible. I never new they taught things like agronomy, plant pathology, entomology, botany, etc. in film school.

01-19-2009, 12:26 PM	#14
Alfisti Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Toronto (for now) Posts: 1,748	Originally posted by Hey Elwood Maybe the temperature is warming but I don't think we as humans have much of an effect on it. Good grief. Forget the politics, you honestly think we can pump billions of tonnes of crap into the atmosphere and it will not affect the planet? At some point, you reap what you sow.

01-19-2009, 01:22 PM	#15
Hey Elwood Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Highland, MI Posts: 336	Originally posted by Alfisti Good grief. Forget the politics, you honestly think we can pump billions of tonnes of crap into the atmosphere and it will not affect the planet? At some point, you reap what you sow. Why not, nature does it all the time to itself and the earth is still here.