[Blue]

Yes, graphic's brand of conservatism goes strictly for Holy Water.


By the way, here's another interesting link - Scott Roeder, the murderer of Dr. Tiller, had a license plate on his car that is common among members of the "Sovereign Citizen" movement, basically a bunch of militia wackos who think they can unilaterally declare themselves outside of the US government's jurisdiction and oppose the 14th amendment. Guess what politician draws a lot of support among "Sovereign Citizens"? Yup.

Your leftist wackos think this crap is ok though.

Jihad Watch: Arkansas jihadist says his murder of soldier was "for the sake of God, for the sake of Allah, the Lord of all the world"

By your logic, we should be blaming all of the hate spewing from Puffington for this. Political parties can be very dangerous things and lists can become things that are out of control rather quickly whether they are kept by nuts like McCarthy, Hoover, Nixon, Bushes, or Obama.

[slomojoe]

Your leftist wackos think this crap is ok though.

Jihad Watch: Arkansas jihadist says his murder of soldier was "for the sake of God, for the sake of Allah, the Lord of all the world"

By your logic, we should be blaming all of the hate spewing from Puffington for this. Political parties can be very dangerous things and lists can become things that are out of control rather quickly whether they are kept by nuts like McCarthy, Hoover, Nixon, Bushes, or Obama.

I don't remember Huffington claiming anything at all should be done for the glory of any God. It is pretty obvious that the rhetoric of Muslim fundamentalists has more in common with our own home-grown brand of religious fundamentalism than with "godless liberals".

But that's besides the point, since as I have said before and you are studiously misrepresenting, I am not blaming these acts of domestic terrorism on Ron Paul, Rush or whoever else other than the perpetrators. However, the evidence on these latest events suggests that when the law enforcement officers who wrote that infamous report pointed out that there is a certain affinity of certain potentially violent groups for the Ron Paul movement (which is not the same as say there there is an affinity of Ron Paul or most of his supporters for terrorism), they apparently had some good reasons.

[Blue]

I don't remember Huffington claiming anything at all should be done for the glory of any God. It is pretty obvious that the rhetoric of Muslim fundamentalists has more in common with our own home-grown brand of religious fundamentalism than with "godless liberals".

But that's besides the point, since as I have said before and you are studiously misrepresenting, I am not blaming these acts of domestic terrorism on Ron Paul, Rush or whoever else other than the perpetrators. However, the evidence on these latest events suggests that when the law enforcement officers who wrote that infamous report pointed out that there is a certain affinity of certain potentially violent groups for the Ron Paul movement (which is not the same as say there there is an affinity of Ron Paul or most of his supporters for terrorism), they apparently had some good reasons.

The liberals are no longer godless. Didn't you here the editor of NewsWeak?

[Jodokast96]

I love now how every crime is an act of terrorism. 10 years ago, this was a hate crime. 10 years before that, it was just plain murder.

I hate to say it, but we need J Edger Hoover back.

Dyson is better.

[Blue]

Dyson is better.

What was in his closet?

What was in his closet?

A Wankel engine.

[asdf]

I understand the twisted sob was very active on the web. I sure hope he didn't own a Pentax and wasn't a PentaxForums member (or NAM member, or Club202 member, etc...) who I interacted with. Often wonder about the 'who' behind the anonymity of everyone I interchange with on the web.

I've interacted with at least two murderers on the internet (SubSpecies23 and Tony48219). I do seek out weirdos purposely, however.

[cardinal43]

I've interacted with at least two murderers on the internet (SubSpecies23 and Tony48219). I do seek out weirdos purposely, however.

How do you know they are who they said they are? It's all annoymous.

[slomojoe]

I love now how every crime is an act of terrorism. 10 years ago, this was a hate crime. 10 years before that, it was just plain murder.

Mmm... I think any premeditated, politicallly-motivated act of violence with the purpose of intimidation and/or destabilization has always been called terrorism, hasn't it?

[slomojoe]

How do you know they are who they said they are? It's all annoymous.

Try googling those names.

[Jodokast96]

No, it hasn't.

[deadwolfbones]

No, it hasn't.

Want to give us a comparable example that wasn't?

[Mike Cash]

What else does Beck routinely say about Obama? Ah, that he is a Marxist, something that von Brunn also wrote about, together with the fact that allegedly Obama is an illegitimate president because he was not born in the US. Both topics that Limbaugh likes to frequently rant about too.

I have subscribed to Limbaugh's program for years, listen to all three hours, and have several years of the program archived.

Mark Levin goes on and on about Obama being a Marxist; Limbaugh has rarely used the term. And I can't recall him ever having taken up time on the illegitimacy angle. Since he does it so frequently....which is something you must know from actually personally listening to the show, rather than irresponsibly spreading specious and damnable lies....it shouldn't be hard for you to provide us with a few dates that he did so. I'd like to go back and hear it for myself.

Thanks.

(God forbid liberals should ever actually listen to Limbaugh rather than just tell each other a bunch of crap that they think he would say and call it a day.)

[slomojoe]

I have subscribed to Limbaugh's program for years, listen to all three hours, and have several years of the program archived.

Mark Levin goes on and on about Obama being a Marxist; Limbaugh has rarely used the term. And I can't recall him ever having taken up time on the illegitimacy angle. Since he does it so frequently....which is something you must know from actually personally listening to the show, rather than irresponsibly spreading specious and damnable lies....it shouldn't be hard for you to provide us with a few dates that he did so. I'd like to go back and hear it for myself.

Thanks.

(God forbid liberals should ever actually listen to Limbaugh rather than just tell each other a bunch of crap that they think he would say and call it a day.)

You weren't paying attention. Just in the last month:
YouTube - Limbaugh: "God Does Not Have A Birth Certificate And Neither Does Obama"
and

Public Enemy #1: The Achievers
May 13, 2009
...
RUSH: Well, there are a lot of words being tossed out out there. Marxist, statist, fascist, incompetent, conniver. The problem is when you use these words, the objective is to persuade people who don't yet see this. And if you start calling him a dictator, they're just going to tune you out. They don't think a dictator is possible in the United States. They're going to have to see evidence of it. You start calling him a communist, a Marxist, a fascist... Call them a Marxist, depending on their education level, and they'd be happy about that. I mean, they've been taught by Marxists --

CALLER: Right.

RUSH: -- in universities, and they may think it's a good thing.

CALLER: But --

RUSH: So it's a very, very, very, very, very delicate thing to go about persuading the cult-like here who are totally in the tank.

CALLER: I understand that, Rush, but if they would look at what Hugo Chavez has done, for an example, and now look at what our president is attempting to do, do they not see the parallels?

RUSH: You are asking irrational people to look at something rationally.

CALLER: Okay.

RUSH: You're asking the insane, as an analogy here, to snap out of it and be sane. You know with a (snap) snap your fingers.

CALLER: Well, I wish there was a way we could snap our fingers and make these people snap out of it and see what's happening.

RUSH: Well, Obama wishes he could push a button and socialize the country, and he's got a lot of buttons he can push.

Plus:

Obama "Rushes" to Grandmother's Bedside (After Just a Few Days)
October 23, 2008

This birth certificate business, this lawsuit that a guy named Philip Berg filed in Philadelphia in August for Obama to produce his genuine birth certificate and he still hasn't replied. You've got a deathly ill grandmother, you are going to rush to her side a few days from now, when you first announced this, you're going to rush, you're going to hurry, you're going to make tracks, you're going to get over there because you don't want your grandmother to die before you got there like your mother did, but somehow you keep campaigning, you take three days to get over there, if he's left yet, and this birth certificate business, I'm just wondering if something's up. I have no clue, and folks, I'm telling you, this has not reached the threshold until now, and it's popping up all over the place. There are a lot of people now that are starting to speculate and be curious about this.

Obama Seeks to Rebuild America on a "Rock" of Generational Debt
April 15, 2009

Obama proposed building a new foundation for our economy, one built on a rock. What rock? Marxism? What rock? Socialism? Hard to say.

Stack of Stuff Quick Hits Page
March 12, 2008

Look, I'm just reading this stuff to you to point out that what Steve King said is true. There are people around the world who are hoping for Obama to win and they are Marxists and they are communists and they are terrorists.

The Cult of Barack Obama
February 20, 2008

Dictators manage economies. Presidents do not. He wants to manage upper-end wages, CEO wages. He wants socialized medicine, to expand unions, empower teachers unions. All of this stuff is Marxism when you boil it all down.

Sotomayor Nomination is a Chance to Highlight Obama's Radical Views
May 27, 2009

But what this means to Obama is, when he says that the Constitution doesn't say what the federal government can do on your behalf, means it doesn't say that it can tax the rich at a higher rate and give the money to the poor. It doesn't say that he can redistribute -- in fact, the Constitution does not have Marxism in it. The Constitution doesn't have socialism in it. And as such, Obama is constrained.

There's more stuff I can't access online. So, Limbaugh has expressed doubts about Obama's birth certificate (and hence, his legitimacy as President) since before the election and as recently as this week. And he has associated Obama and his policies with Marxism on innumerable occasions. If you don't think that the endorsement of public mainstream characters like Limbaugh, Beck etc provides support for the doomsday scenarios of all sorts of conspiracy theorists and nutjobs, you are just deluding yourself. Of course these talking heads do not endorse violence, but their overheated rhetoric contributes to an environment in which would-be violent terrorists find their own legitimacy.

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