[Leaf Fan]

Come on now, every tax ultimately gets paid by the consumer, if it wasn't that way corporations would not make a profit. Even in the service professional industry, taxes, like rent, are a cost of doing business. All the costs are built into the final price, even if it's regulated by an industry or government. The bottom line is, that if taking into account all the costs, including taxes, the corporation can still make a profit, then the business goes on and the consumer of the service/product pays the taxes, the rent, the salaries, the cost of materials, and the profit of the corporation.

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Payroll taxes are paid by the employee in reality. 1/2 of SS is borne by the company and 1/2 by the employee. Your corp taxes are based upon income. No income no taxes. So it's paid by the end user at any rate since if you had no business you wouldn't pay tax. In any way shape or form it's always the end user paying the bill. It's part of the cost of goods/services any way you look at it.

You really pay no taxes. Government confiscates your money and calls it a tax.

Let's face it. It's all a matter of semantics. I am just having a little fun with you and at your expense.

I know you are. But can you imagine if anyone really believes that allcorporations pass their taxes onto the consumer. Especially since many corporations are service industries that cater to other corporations and never sell one product to a consumer at all.

I know you are. But can you imagine if anyone really believes that all corporations pass their taxes onto the consumer. Especially since many corporations are service industries that cater to other corporations and never sell one product to a consumer at all.

You are selling something. No money can be made until something is sold. That's an indisputable fact. Corporations don't pay taxes. Period. The end user always pays the tax.

If money changes hands you are selling something

Gary, wasn't the World Bank started by governments? And basically they are a socialist organization. So basically you are saying socialism don't work.
But I already knew that.

It was started by the American government primarily and at the behest of a few large corporations. It is definitely not a socialist organisation.

I don't know about that, the last time I looked, my corporation/small business is paying a lot of taxes that don't get passed onto the consumer. Please let me know where your loophole is, I would be very interested in exploiting this.

If you're a small business, I wouldn't consider you a corporation or part of the corporatocracy, small businesses are the good guys, small businesses are the only ones creating jobs at the moment.
Keep up the good work.

[Lowell Goudge]

I don't know about that, the last time I looked, my corporation/small business is paying a lot of taxes that don't get passed onto the consumer. Please let me know where your loophole is, I would be very interested in exploiting this.

does your coproration make money. If so, then the taxes you are paying somewhere get put into your price, because you would charge less if you were taxed less and you would be paying no tax if you made no money.

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If you're a small business, I wouldn't consider you a corporation or part of the corporatocracy, small businesses are the good guys, small businesses are the only ones creating jobs at the moment.
Keep up the good work.

DB,

Thanks, unfortunately it feels like we're the only guys (small businesses) paying taxes & not getting any help from the Government. The big corporations are getting all the assistance nowadays.

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does your corporation make money. If so, then the taxes you are paying somewhere get put into your price, because you would charge less if you were taxed less and you would be paying no tax if you made no money.

No, the taxes cannot be put into the price because the price is driven by my competitors that are all trying to undercut each other to stay in business. Taxes have nothing to do with what you charge in a competitive service industry.

It may apply in a retail environment, but even that is a delusion. Just look at all the on-line companies that sell merchandise. If they are local, they usually offer free shipping to off-set the tax in order to stay competitive with out of state sellers.

Just ask yourself, do they really charge more because of a tax?, the answer is no.

No, the taxes cannot be put into the price because the price is driven by my competitors that are all trying to undercut each other to stay in business. Taxes have nothing to do with what you charge in a competitive service industry.

It may apply in a retail environment, but even that is a delusion. Just look at all the on-line companies that sell merchandise. If they are local, they usually offer free shipping to off-set the tax in order to stay competitive with out of state sellers.

Just ask yourself, do they really charge more because of a tax?, the answer is no.

At the nursery where I work, they've used the same formulas for setting prices for years.
My boss doesn't really pay much attention to competitors prices as we try and provide a high level of service (deliveries, advice etc.). In the past couple of years though, he has had to start swallowing a lot of the increases he has had to pay, partly to keep the clientele but also because he has a good sense of the value of things as opposed to actual cost.

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At the nursery where I work, they've used the same formulas for setting prices for years.
My boss doesn't really pay much attention to competitors prices as we try and provide a high level of service (deliveries, advice etc.). In the past couple of years though, he has had to start swallowing a lot of the increases he has had to pay, partly to keep the clientele but also because he has a good sense of the value of things as opposed to actual cost.

I can understand where he's at on this. This economy has driven so many businesses to the brink that the businesses remaining are all trying to outbid each other. It's worse in a consulting service business since there always someone willing to take a job for almost nothing since it's only labor versus putting an employee on the street. At least with a commodity you have minimum cost to cover where there is always a minimum price that no-one can go below.

Good luck to your boss & you also. Keep your job, there's a little mouth that needs you to do just that.

It was started by the American government primarily and at the behest of a few large corporations. It is definitely not a socialist organisation.

The World Bank is helping Third World governments cripple their economies, maul their environments, and oppress their people. Although the bank started with the highest ideals some 40 years ago, it now consistently does more harm than good for the world's poorest.

The World Bank's raison d'etre in its early years was to encourage development. Now, the bank exists largely to maximize the transfer of resources to Third World governments. And by so doing, the bank has greatly promoted the nationalization of Third World economies and has increased political and bureaucratic control over the lives of the poorest of the poor.

Bank officials are now leading a rhetorical crusade in favor of the private sector. Yet every time the bank loudly praises the private sector, it silently damns its own record. More than any other international institution, the bank is responsible for the rush to socialism in the Third World--the rise of political power over the private sector--and the economic collapse of Africa.

Gary this is from that link. If it looks like socialism, smells like socialism, it must be socialism.

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