FYI Firefox 3.5.1 still has the oversaturated colours bug

gawan · 07-18-2009, 11:24 AM

I used till yesterday Firefox 3.0.11 and all was fine, I had not upgraded to 3.5 as I heard it has some colour management problems, which was supposed to be corrected in version 3.5.1

Well I yesterday upgraded to 3.5.1 and now all images have very over saturated colours, when seen through that browser! I use Windows XP.

Does anyone else have this problem? It effectively makes this browser unusable to photographers!

gawan · 07-18-2009, 12:17 PM

Looking around with the help of Google, it seems that this bug only affects certain monitors colour profiles, so some have problems, some do not.

FF does not seem to be capable to manage colours defined with version 4 colour profiles, yet!

séamuis · 07-18-2009, 12:58 PM

I am having no problems with colours on FF 3.5.1, I don't recall seeing a difference in 3.5.

pop4 · 07-18-2009, 02:41 PM

Have you enabled support for colour profiles in Firefox? By default colour management is disabled.

gawan · 07-18-2009, 02:57 PM

Originally posted by pop4

Have you enabled support for colour profiles in Firefox? By default colour management is disabled.

Yes, color management is enabled. Switching it on or off does not change anything, still bad colours!

gawan · 07-18-2009, 03:02 PM

Okay, I have found a cure!

I simply had to find a new profile to my specific monitor - I found an older version profile from here and after the switch, my good colours are back again!

Shame that the new FF does not handle all version of colour profiles! I am sure they will fix this soon enough!

If you are interested, read more in here too! That is where I found the crucial tip!

Arpe · 07-19-2009, 07:04 PM

How do you turn it on or off in FF,? I can't find it.

gawan · 07-20-2009, 02:57 AM

Originally posted by Arpe

How do you turn it on or off in FF,? I can't find it.

Write to your address bar about:config and find the entry gfx.color_management.mode and set it either to 1 or 0.

Setting to 1 = enabled will improve the colours in any monitor.

This tip I learned my self here in the forum, can't remember from whom, though, but thanks belong to that person!

Arpe · 07-20-2009, 06:40 PM

Originally posted by gawan

Write to your address bar about:config and find the entry gfx.color_management.mode and set it either to 1 or 0.

Setting to 1 = enabled will improve the colours in any monitor.

This tip I learned my self here in the forum, can't remember from whom, though, but thanks belong to that person!

Ta. Don't know why I couldn't find that setting!

Arpe · 07-20-2009, 06:42 PM

Mine says "2", not "1" nor "0"!!!!

(And you didn't warn me about the dragons!)

gawan · 07-28-2009, 01:34 AM

Originally posted by Arpe

Mine says "2", not "1" nor "0"!!!!

(And you didn't warn me about the dragons!)

Anything non zero means enabled

Sorry about the dragons! ?

BTW, on the contrary of previous versions of FF the new 3.5.x has colour management enabled by default.

lunelson · 08-03-2009, 12:48 PM

Firefox 3.5.2 (now in beta) claims to have fixed rendering for images with ICC profiles. You may want to try it out if you haven't already.

SteveB · 08-04-2009, 11:25 AM

I still only get ver.2 compatibilty in 3.5.2 on Is your system ICC Version 4 ready?

gawan · 08-04-2009, 11:52 AM

Originally posted by SteveB

I still only get ver.2 compatibilty in 3.5.2 on Is your system ICC Version 4 ready?

I don't quite get that test page, but my previous profile, which did not work on 3.5.1 works again in 3.5.2 so there is definitely an improvement done.

gawan · 08-04-2009, 11:58 AM

Originally posted by SteveB

I still only get ver.2 compatibilty in 3.5.2 on Is your system ICC Version 4 ready?

In that page the test image seems to suggest I had only v2 compatibility, but when I uploaded the associated PDF version of the test, that gives another result, suggesting that my browser's pdf plugin is in fact v4 compatible. Go figure! The device matters!

For me it is enough that my monitor now shows best colours with my original profile, I had experienced as best (Kodak made). So I can through the downloaded spyder profiles away now.

07-18-2009, 11:24 AM	#1
gawan Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Helsinki Photos: Gallery Posts: 5,400	FYI Firefox 3.5.1 still has the oversaturated colours bug I used till yesterday Firefox 3.0.11 and all was fine, I had not upgraded to 3.5 as I heard it has some colour management problems, which was supposed to be corrected in version 3.5.1 Well I yesterday upgraded to 3.5.1 and now all images have very over saturated colours, when seen through that browser! I use Windows XP. Does anyone else have this problem? It effectively makes this browser unusable to photographers!

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07-18-2009, 12:17 PM	#2
gawan Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Helsinki Photos: Gallery Posts: 5,400 Original Poster	Looking around with the help of Google, it seems that this bug only affects certain monitors colour profiles, so some have problems, some do not. FF does not seem to be capable to manage colours defined with version 4 colour profiles, yet!

07-18-2009, 12:58 PM	#3
séamuis Banned Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Savannah, U.S./Baguio City, P.H. Posts: 5,979	I am having no problems with colours on FF 3.5.1, I don't recall seeing a difference in 3.5.

07-18-2009, 02:41 PM	#4
pop4 Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: YMML Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,879	Have you enabled support for colour profiles in Firefox? By default colour management is disabled.

07-18-2009, 02:57 PM	#5
gawan Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Helsinki Photos: Gallery Posts: 5,400 Original Poster	Originally posted by pop4 Have you enabled support for colour profiles in Firefox? By default colour management is disabled. Yes, color management is enabled. Switching it on or off does not change anything, still bad colours!

07-18-2009, 03:02 PM	#6
gawan Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Helsinki Photos: Gallery Posts: 5,400 Original Poster	Okay, I have found a cure! I simply had to find a new profile to my specific monitor - I found an older version profile from here and after the switch, my good colours are back again! Shame that the new FF does not handle all version of colour profiles! I am sure they will fix this soon enough! If you are interested, read more in here too! That is where I found the crucial tip!

07-19-2009, 07:04 PM	#7
Arpe Pentaxian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: New Zealand Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 4,452	How do you turn it on or off in FF,? I can't find it.

07-20-2009, 02:57 AM	#8
gawan Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Helsinki Photos: Gallery Posts: 5,400 Original Poster	Originally posted by Arpe How do you turn it on or off in FF,? I can't find it. Write to your address bar about:config and find the entry gfx.color_management.mode and set it either to 1 or 0. Setting to 1 = enabled will improve the colours in any monitor. This tip I learned my self here in the forum, can't remember from whom, though, but thanks belong to that person!

07-20-2009, 06:40 PM	#9
Arpe Pentaxian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: New Zealand Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 4,452	Originally posted by gawan Write to your address bar about:config and find the entry gfx.color_management.mode and set it either to 1 or 0. Setting to 1 = enabled will improve the colours in any monitor. This tip I learned my self here in the forum, can't remember from whom, though, but thanks belong to that person! Ta. Don't know why I couldn't find that setting!

07-20-2009, 06:42 PM	#10
Arpe Pentaxian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: New Zealand Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 4,452	Mine says "2", not "1" nor "0"!!!! (And you didn't warn me about the dragons!)

07-28-2009, 01:34 AM	#11
gawan Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Helsinki Photos: Gallery Posts: 5,400 Original Poster	Originally posted by Arpe Mine says "2", not "1" nor "0"!!!! (And you didn't warn me about the dragons!) Anything non zero means enabled Sorry about the dragons! ? BTW, on the contrary of previous versions of FF the new 3.5.x has colour management enabled by default.

08-03-2009, 12:48 PM	#12
lunelson Forum Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Missouri Posts: 80	Firefox 3.5.2 (now in beta) claims to have fixed rendering for images with ICC profiles. You may want to try it out if you haven't already.

08-04-2009, 11:25 AM	#13
SteveB Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: U.K. Posts: 685	I still only get ver.2 compatibilty in 3.5.2 on Is your system ICC Version 4 ready?

08-04-2009, 11:52 AM	#14
gawan Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Helsinki Photos: Gallery Posts: 5,400 Original Poster	Originally posted by SteveB I still only get ver.2 compatibilty in 3.5.2 on Is your system ICC Version 4 ready? I don't quite get that test page, but my previous profile, which did not work on 3.5.1 works again in 3.5.2 so there is definitely an improvement done.

08-04-2009, 11:58 AM	#15
gawan Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Helsinki Photos: Gallery Posts: 5,400 Original Poster	Originally posted by SteveB I still only get ver.2 compatibilty in 3.5.2 on Is your system ICC Version 4 ready? In that page the test image seems to suggest I had only v2 compatibility, but when I uploaded the associated PDF version of the test, that gives another result, suggesting that my browser's pdf plugin is in fact v4 compatible. Go figure! The device matters! For me it is enough that my monitor now shows best colours with my original profile, I had experienced as best (Kodak made). So I can through the downloaded spyder profiles away now.