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Russell-Evans · 09-15-2009, 12:23 PM

Originally posted by Ratmagiclady

Well, this is the kind of conversation we *could* be having if all the attention weren't on mad ideology.

Well I'm all ears. how are we going to do it?

Thank you
Russell

Ratmagiclady · 09-15-2009, 12:34 PM

Originally posted by Russell-Evans

Well I'm all ears. how are we going to do it?

Thank you
Russell

New thread, for starters?

This one's mostly about the mania.

graphicgr8s · 09-15-2009, 01:29 PM

Originally posted by deadwolfbones

You can't be serious here.

Posting an image of the first black president as a stereotypical African witch doctor isn't the slightest bit racist?

Don't *see* it as racist at *all*. Would *it* be racist if it was a caucacian president? *So* you can't *have* satire of this president *because* he is *black*? Give me *a* break.

Russell-Evans · 09-15-2009, 01:30 PM

Originally posted by Ratmagiclady

New thread, for starters?

This one's mostly about the mania.

Here is your new thread

https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/general-talk/73540-how-we-going-do-health...tml#post742767

Thank you
Russell

deadwolfbones · 09-15-2009, 01:30 PM

Originally posted by graphicgr8s

Don't see it as racist at all. Would it be racist if it was a caucacian president?

No, obviously not. But it'd still be stupid.

Quote:

So you can't have satire of this president because he is black? Give me a break.

You can't have THAT satire of THIS president.

Are you intentionally dense?

graphicgr8s · 09-15-2009, 01:35 PM

Originally posted by Ratmagiclady

Where's all that money go? Here's a hint: Ask the *rich* people.

The *rich* this, the *rich* that. What do you have against the *rich*? Most of them actually *earned* their money. Came up with an idea and failed many times over the years. Finally find something that works and makes money. What's *wrong* with that? Why don't you come up with *something* someone *wants* to buy and *sell* it and become *rich* yourself?

Without those *rich* you would be stuck *paying for *things* yourself. I mean without the *rich* where would *welfare* and other *entitlements* be?

And where would ACORN be? I mean someone has to tell hookers how to get a house for those illegal children.

graphicgr8s · 09-15-2009, 01:38 PM

Originally posted by deadwolfbones

No, obviously not. But it'd still be stupid.

True, it is stupid no matter what the skin color

You can't have THAT satire of THIS president.
Double standard
Are you intentionally dense?

10chara
10

Parallax · 09-15-2009, 01:40 PM

Originally posted by deadwolfbones

.......You can't have THAT satire of THIS president.

So you are saying that he should be treated differently because of his race. Hmmmmm. There is a term for that. I just can't quite remember what it is. Somebody help me out here. What's the term for treating one person differently than another based solely on his race?

deadwolfbones · 09-15-2009, 01:41 PM

I'm curious as to how it's a double-standard.

Witch doctor imagery is offensive to blacks because of how it's been used to depict modern blacks in modern times. It hasn't been used that way toward white people, so it's not offensive to them (it's generally considered comedic, in the limited instances when it occurs).

This isn't a double-standard, it's a difference in origin and historical application.

deadwolfbones · 09-15-2009, 01:44 PM

Originally posted by Parallax

So you are saying that he should be treated differently because of his race. Hmmmmm. There is a term for that. I just can't quite remember what it is. Somebody help me out here. What's the term for treating one person differently than another based solely on his race?

Exactly, they're treating him differently by creating photoshopped images of him as a witch doctor. There's no doubt as to where the idea for the poster came from. That's racism.

Note that they didn't photoshop Bill Clinton into a witch doctor outfit when he proposed his similar healthcare plan.

graphicgr8s · 09-15-2009, 01:52 PM

Originally posted by deadwolfbones

Exactly, they're treating him differently by creating photoshopped images of him as a witch doctor. There's no doubt as to where the idea for the poster came from. That's racism.

Note that they didn't photoshop Bill Clinton into a witch doctor outfit when he proposed his similar healthcare plan.

Actually it was Hillary's plan. He was on the cover of Time though where the M made him the devil he is.

And all the KKK stuff is okay though?

shooz · 09-15-2009, 02:17 PM

Actually. I think the whole problem with Prez. Obama, is that he has cooties.
It couldn't possibly be because he's sorta.....um black.
Everyone knows there's no bigotry in America. Why, that would be unpatriotic.

"The last refuge of the scoundrel is patiotism."
Samuel Clemens

graphicgr8s · 09-15-2009, 02:30 PM

Shooz I couldn't care if he was green with yellow polka dots.

There are others black politicians, that if they had run, I would have been not only voting for them but also campaigning.

deadwolfbones · 09-15-2009, 02:33 PM

Originally posted by graphicgr8s

Shooz I couldn't care if he was green with yellow polka dots.

There are others black politicians, that if they had run, I would have been not only voting for them but also campaigning.

"Some of my best friends are black!!"

No one's accused YOU of being racist in this debate. We're debating about the racist implications of that poster (and others like it).

graphicgr8s · 09-15-2009, 07:42 PM

Originally posted by deadwolfbones

"Some of my best friends are black!!"

No one's accused YOU of being racist in this debate. We're debating about the racist implications of that poster (and others like it).

Like I said, I don't think the poster is racist. Just stupid. Same as the ones done with Bush.

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09-15-2009, 12:23 PM	#271
Russell-Evans Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 1,553	Originally posted by Ratmagiclady Well, this is the kind of conversation we could be having if all the attention weren't on mad ideology. Well I'm all ears. how are we going to do it? Thank you Russell

09-15-2009, 12:34 PM	#272
Ratmagiclady Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: GA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 13,563	Originally posted by Russell-Evans Well I'm all ears. how are we going to do it? Thank you Russell New thread, for starters? This one's mostly about the mania.

09-15-2009, 01:29 PM	#273
graphicgr8s Guest	Originally posted by deadwolfbones You can't be serious here. Posting an image of the first black president as a stereotypical African witch doctor isn't the slightest bit racist? Don't see it as racist at all. Would it be racist if it was a caucacian president? So you can't have satire of this president because he is black? Give me a break.

09-15-2009, 01:30 PM	#274
Russell-Evans Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 1,553	Originally posted by Ratmagiclady New thread, for starters? This one's mostly about the mania. Here is your new thread https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/general-talk/73540-how-we-going-do-health...tml#post742767 Thank you Russell

09-15-2009, 01:30 PM	#275
deadwolfbones Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Santa Fe, NM Posts: 7,451	Originally posted by graphicgr8s Don't see it as racist at all. Would it be racist if it was a caucacian president? No, obviously not. But it'd still be stupid. Quote: So you can't have satire of this president because he is black? Give me a break. You can't have THAT satire of THIS president. Are you intentionally dense?

09-15-2009, 01:35 PM	#276
graphicgr8s Guest	Originally posted by Ratmagiclady Where's all that money go? Here's a hint: Ask the rich people. The rich this, the rich that. What do you have against the rich? Most of them actually earned their money. Came up with an idea and failed many times over the years. Finally find something that works and makes money. What's wrong with that? Why don't you come up with something someone wants to buy and sell it and become rich yourself? Without those rich you would be stuck paying for things* yourself. I mean without the rich where would welfare and other entitlements be? And where would ACORN be? I mean someone has to tell hookers how to get a house for those illegal children.

09-15-2009, 01:38 PM	#277
graphicgr8s Guest	Originally posted by deadwolfbones No, obviously not. But it'd still be stupid. True, it is stupid no matter what the skin color You can't have THAT satire of THIS president. Double standard Are you intentionally dense? 10chara 10

09-15-2009, 01:40 PM	#278
Parallax Senior Moderator Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: South Dakota Photos: Gallery Posts: 19,333	Originally posted by deadwolfbones .......You can't have THAT satire of THIS president. So you are saying that he should be treated differently because of his race. Hmmmmm. There is a term for that. I just can't quite remember what it is. Somebody help me out here. What's the term for treating one person differently than another based solely on his race?

09-15-2009, 01:41 PM	#279
deadwolfbones Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Santa Fe, NM Posts: 7,451	I'm curious as to how it's a double-standard. Witch doctor imagery is offensive to blacks because of how it's been used to depict modern blacks in modern times. It hasn't been used that way toward white people, so it's not offensive to them (it's generally considered comedic, in the limited instances when it occurs). This isn't a double-standard, it's a difference in origin and historical application.

09-15-2009, 01:44 PM	#280
deadwolfbones Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Santa Fe, NM Posts: 7,451	Originally posted by Parallax So you are saying that he should be treated differently because of his race. Hmmmmm. There is a term for that. I just can't quite remember what it is. Somebody help me out here. What's the term for treating one person differently than another based solely on his race? Exactly, they're treating him differently by creating photoshopped images of him as a witch doctor. There's no doubt as to where the idea for the poster came from. That's racism. Note that they didn't photoshop Bill Clinton into a witch doctor outfit when he proposed his similar healthcare plan.

09-15-2009, 01:52 PM	#281
graphicgr8s Guest	Originally posted by deadwolfbones Exactly, they're treating him differently by creating photoshopped images of him as a witch doctor. There's no doubt as to where the idea for the poster came from. That's racism. Note that they didn't photoshop Bill Clinton into a witch doctor outfit when he proposed his similar healthcare plan. Actually it was Hillary's plan. He was on the cover of Time though where the M made him the devil he is. And all the KKK stuff is okay though?

09-15-2009, 02:17 PM	#282
shooz Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Detroit Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,491	Actually. I think the whole problem with Prez. Obama, is that he has cooties. It couldn't possibly be because he's sorta.....um black. Everyone knows there's no bigotry in America. Why, that would be unpatriotic. "The last refuge of the scoundrel is patiotism." Samuel Clemens

09-15-2009, 02:30 PM	#283
graphicgr8s Guest	Shooz I couldn't care if he was green with yellow polka dots. There are others black politicians, that if they had run, I would have been not only voting for them but also campaigning.

09-15-2009, 02:33 PM	#284
deadwolfbones Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Santa Fe, NM Posts: 7,451	Originally posted by graphicgr8s Shooz I couldn't care if he was green with yellow polka dots. There are others black politicians, that if they had run, I would have been not only voting for them but also campaigning. "Some of my best friends are black!!" No one's accused YOU of being racist in this debate. We're debating about the racist implications of that poster (and others like it).

09-15-2009, 07:42 PM	#285
graphicgr8s Guest	Originally posted by deadwolfbones "Some of my best friends are black!!" No one's accused YOU of being racist in this debate. We're debating about the racist implications of that poster (and others like it). Like I said, I don't think the poster is racist. Just stupid. Same as the ones done with Bush.

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