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pingflood · 09-30-2009, 08:35 PM

Originally posted by graphicgr8s

Well "on average" means that 1/2 the time the aren't as accurate. 1/2 the time they are. So how do you know if you got the right half?

Oh hey Sean Hannity.

You could also mince the words into 1/2 the time Wikipedia gets it right and the encyclopedia wrong, and 1/2 the time the other way around.

But that wouldn't sound quite the same would it?

I am sure you get what I was saying and just deliberately had to "misunderstand".

graphicgr8s · 09-30-2009, 08:37 PM

Originally posted by pingflood

Oh hey Sean Hannity.

You could also mince the words into 1/2 the time Wikipedia gets it right and the encyclopedia wrong, and 1/2 the time the other way around.

But that wouldn't sound quite the same would it?

I am sure you get what I was saying and just deliberately had to "misunderstand".

If I wanted to "misunderstand" would have stopped after "get it wrong"

Ratmagiclady · 09-30-2009, 08:45 PM

Originally posted by graphicgr8s

Why does the internet give you hope?

Well, some of these stupid arguments have been a long time coming.

What happens next is kind of up to us.

The hopeful bit is it's now much harder to convince people they're alone in the world than it was not too long ago. People were babbling about how horrible and evil people are back then, too.

The hope, there, is that now we can find out different.

All we have to do is want it.

graphicgr8s · 09-30-2009, 08:49 PM

Originally posted by Ratmagiclady

Well, some of these stupid arguments have been a long time coming.

What happens next is kind of up to us.

The hopeful bit is it's now much harder to convince people they're alone in the world than it was not too long ago. People were babbling about how horrible and evil people are back then, too.

The hope, there, is that now we can find out different.

All we have to do is want it.

Hmm.Babbling. Kind of like this post you just made? That pretty much makes no sense. Again.

shooz · 09-30-2009, 08:55 PM

Originally posted by graphicgr8s

Hmm.Babbling. Kind of like this post you just made? That pretty much makes no sense. Again.

See what I mean...that was antisocial.

When are you moving?

graphicgr8s · 09-30-2009, 09:00 PM

Originally posted by shooz

See what I mean...that was antisocial.

When are you moving?

It wasn't anti-social. Just a statement of fact.

shooz · 09-30-2009, 09:07 PM

You just couldn't figure it out.

graphicgr8s · 09-30-2009, 09:22 PM

Originally posted by shooz

You just couldn't figure it out.

Most normal people can't figure her ramblings out. So I am not alone.

Wheatfield · 09-30-2009, 09:38 PM

Originally posted by Ash

But a lot of reliable information can be found on the internet too, if one knows where to look for it...

Therein lies the problem. What happens when one has access to vat amounts of "free" information is that they will tend to seek out that which reinforces what they already believe.

**Ash** · 09-30-2009, 09:42 PM

Originally posted by Wheatfield

Therein lies the problem. What happens when one has access to vat amounts of "free" information is that they will tend to seek out that which reinforces what they already believe.

Yes, I realise ignorance breeds ignorance, but this is not new to the current information age...
One can choose to at least try to be impartial, and with that attitude, the internet can be a very informative tool...

SteveM · 09-30-2009, 10:41 PM

I think Adam should remove the "Friendly" quote off the forum.....it's getting more nasty and personal all the time...

**Ash** · 09-30-2009, 10:44 PM

Originally posted by smc

I think Adam should remove the "Friendly" quote off the forum.....it's getting more nasty and personal all the time...

No, the Friendly part should stay. It's the enmity that should go - and that's up to us to do!

er1kksen · 10-01-2009, 03:58 AM

Yes, RML's post made perfect sense, and between her statement and the deal about the vast amount of info available on the net, that's what I was talking about as far as "hope for the future." That doesn't mean it'll pan out, of course. Just that it provides some hope.

Yes, there's a lot of bad info out there, but you CAN sift it out pretty reliably if you learn to. I know it took me a learning period of several years to be able to sort the facts from the crap. There are other people who are better at it than I am. Clearly, it's doable. We just need a whole generation to learn how to do it instead of spending all their time watching videos of people falling over on youtube.

Keep in mind that even without the internet, the world we live in is FULL of false info, and a ridiculous amount of people believe it.

The internet also has potential to bring people who otherwise may have felt powerless and marginalized together, and provide them a means of communication and a way into the public awareness. This can be good or bad. "Hope" is for the good aspect.

Obviously, it's not like the internet is going to fix everything. But it's easy to see its potential as a very powerful tool for the achievement of change... positive or otherwise.

graphicgr8s · 10-01-2009, 07:40 AM

Originally posted by smc

I think Adam should remove the "Friendly" quote off the forum.....it's getting more nasty and personal all the time...

You should read the thread about knees RML started.

shooz · 10-01-2009, 07:53 AM

They tend to own the teams dont ya know.
Gotta start somewhere.
The bottoms about as low as it can go.

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09-30-2009, 08:35 PM	#31
pingflood Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Borås, Sweden Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,169	Originally posted by graphicgr8s Well "on average" means that 1/2 the time the aren't as accurate. 1/2 the time they are. So how do you know if you got the right half? Oh hey Sean Hannity. You could also mince the words into 1/2 the time Wikipedia gets it right and the encyclopedia wrong, and 1/2 the time the other way around. But that wouldn't sound quite the same would it? I am sure you get what I was saying and just deliberately had to "misunderstand".

09-30-2009, 08:37 PM	#32
graphicgr8s Guest	Originally posted by pingflood Oh hey Sean Hannity. You could also mince the words into 1/2 the time Wikipedia gets it right and the encyclopedia wrong, and 1/2 the time the other way around. But that wouldn't sound quite the same would it? I am sure you get what I was saying and just deliberately had to "misunderstand". If I wanted to "misunderstand" would have stopped after "get it wrong"

09-30-2009, 08:45 PM	#33
Ratmagiclady Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: GA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 13,563	Originally posted by graphicgr8s Why does the internet give you hope? Well, some of these stupid arguments have been a long time coming. What happens next is kind of up to us. The hopeful bit is it's now much harder to convince people they're alone in the world than it was not too long ago. People were babbling about how horrible and evil people are back then, too. The hope, there, is that now we can find out different. All we have to do is want it.

09-30-2009, 08:49 PM	#34
graphicgr8s Guest	Originally posted by Ratmagiclady Well, some of these stupid arguments have been a long time coming. What happens next is kind of up to us. The hopeful bit is it's now much harder to convince people they're alone in the world than it was not too long ago. People were babbling about how horrible and evil people are back then, too. The hope, there, is that now we can find out different. All we have to do is want it. Hmm.Babbling. Kind of like this post you just made? That pretty much makes no sense. Again.

09-30-2009, 08:55 PM	#35
shooz Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Detroit Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,491	Originally posted by graphicgr8s Hmm.Babbling. Kind of like this post you just made? That pretty much makes no sense. Again. See what I mean...that was antisocial. When are you moving?

09-30-2009, 09:00 PM	#36
graphicgr8s Guest	Originally posted by shooz See what I mean...that was antisocial. When are you moving? It wasn't anti-social. Just a statement of fact.

09-30-2009, 09:07 PM	#37
shooz Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Detroit Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,491	You just couldn't figure it out.

09-30-2009, 09:22 PM	#38
graphicgr8s Guest	Originally posted by shooz You just couldn't figure it out. Most normal people can't figure her ramblings out. So I am not alone.

09-30-2009, 09:38 PM	#39
Wheatfield Moderator Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: The wheatfields of Canada Posts: 15,991	Originally posted by Ash But a lot of reliable information can be found on the internet too, if one knows where to look for it... Therein lies the problem. What happens when one has access to vat amounts of "free" information is that they will tend to seek out that which reinforces what they already believe.

09-30-2009, 09:42 PM	#40
Ash Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Toowoomba, Queensland Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 23,920	Originally posted by Wheatfield Therein lies the problem. What happens when one has access to vat amounts of "free" information is that they will tend to seek out that which reinforces what they already believe. Yes, I realise ignorance breeds ignorance, but this is not new to the current information age... One can choose to at least try to be impartial, and with that attitude, the internet can be a very informative tool...

09-30-2009, 10:41 PM	#41
SteveM Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Vancouver Island, BC, Canada Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,294	I think Adam should remove the "Friendly" quote off the forum.....it's getting more nasty and personal all the time...

09-30-2009, 10:44 PM	#42
Ash Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Toowoomba, Queensland Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 23,920	Originally posted by smc I think Adam should remove the "Friendly" quote off the forum.....it's getting more nasty and personal all the time... No, the Friendly part should stay. It's the enmity that should go - and that's up to us to do!

10-01-2009, 03:58 AM	#43
er1kksen Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Forestville, NY Photos: Albums Posts: 1,801	Yes, RML's post made perfect sense, and between her statement and the deal about the vast amount of info available on the net, that's what I was talking about as far as "hope for the future." That doesn't mean it'll pan out, of course. Just that it provides some hope. Yes, there's a lot of bad info out there, but you CAN sift it out pretty reliably if you learn to. I know it took me a learning period of several years to be able to sort the facts from the crap. There are other people who are better at it than I am. Clearly, it's doable. We just need a whole generation to learn how to do it instead of spending all their time watching videos of people falling over on youtube. Keep in mind that even without the internet, the world we live in is FULL of false info, and a ridiculous amount of people believe it. The internet also has potential to bring people who otherwise may have felt powerless and marginalized together, and provide them a means of communication and a way into the public awareness. This can be good or bad. "Hope" is for the good aspect. Obviously, it's not like the internet is going to fix everything. But it's easy to see its potential as a very powerful tool for the achievement of change... positive or otherwise.

10-01-2009, 07:40 AM	#44
graphicgr8s Guest	Originally posted by smc I think Adam should remove the "Friendly" quote off the forum.....it's getting more nasty and personal all the time... You should read the thread about knees RML started.

10-01-2009, 07:53 AM	#45
shooz Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Detroit Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,491	They tend to own the teams dont ya know. Gotta start somewhere. The bottoms about as low as it can go.

Why so socialist?

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