Nobel Prize

EricT · 10-09-2009, 09:14 AM

Originally posted by Parallax

Exactly. At the time of his nomination he wasn't in the middle of accomplishing anything. All he had done was say what he was going to try to accomplish.

At the time of nomination, yes. However, the actual choice was made later, and Obama has already shown several key issues he wants to address, for instance wrt nuclear disarmament and the middle east.

Hell, even George W. Bush got nominated, in 2002!

graphicgr8s · 10-09-2009, 09:16 AM

Originally posted by deadwolfbones

Also:

Hitler was nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize in 1939 on the basis of the peaceful resolution of the Sudetenland Crisis; but the nomination was rejected by the Nobel Prize Committee.

This all took place before Hitler started the World War II.

deadwolfbones · 10-09-2009, 09:17 AM

Interesting summation of world reactions here:

World Reaction to a Nobel Surprise - The Lede Blog - NYTimes.com

shooz · 10-09-2009, 09:21 AM

Alfred E. Neuman?
Kinda looked like Thebush.........No wait....He could eat pretzels!

Ratmagiclady · 10-09-2009, 09:22 AM

Originally posted by EricT

At the time of nomination, yes. However, the actual choice was made later, and Obama has already shown several key issues he wants to address, for instance wrt nuclear disarmament and the middle east.

Hell, even George W. Bush got nominated, in 2002!

The Bush nomination was kind of a joke as far as anyone I know was concerned, ...it's not like the Right over here waited ten minutes before calling Obama a 'dictator,' though. Apparently, in by their own account, before he'd 'done anything.'

Intriguing.

shooz · 10-09-2009, 09:24 AM

They are just mad that Hollwood Ron didn't get one.

johnmflores · 10-09-2009, 09:29 AM

Here's a fair analysis:

The Daily Dish | By Andrew Sullivan

"I've had some coffee now. Reading through all the reactions, compiled by Chris and Patrick, there are two obvious points: this is premature and this is thoroughly deserved.

Both are right. I don't think Americans fully absorbed the depths to which this country's reputation had sunk under the Cheney era. That's understandable. And so they also haven't fully absorbed the turn-around in the world's view of America that Obama and the American people have accomplished. Of course, this has yet to bear real fruit. But you can begin to see how it could; and I hope more see both the peaceful intentions and the steely resolve of this man to persevere."

Doorknob · 10-09-2009, 09:32 AM

I awoke this morning, heard the news and had to check the calendar, thought it was April 1st.

Ratmagiclady · 10-09-2009, 09:32 AM

Originally posted by johnmflores

Both are right. I don't think Americans fully absorbed the depths to which this country's reputation had sunk under the Cheney era. That's understandable. And so they also haven't fully absorbed the turn-around in the world's view of America that Obama and the American people have accomplished. Of course, this has yet to bear real fruit. But you can begin to see how it could; and I hope more see both the peaceful intentions and the steely resolve of this man to persevere."

Painfully aware. I'm *still* freaked out.

But getting us back on the bright side of the Force and inspiring the planet ain't nothing.

graphicgr8s · 10-09-2009, 09:40 AM

Originally posted by johnmflores

Here's a fair analysis:

The Daily Dish | By Andrew Sullivan

"I've had some coffee now. Reading through all the reactions, compiled by Chris and Patrick, there are two obvious points: this is premature and this is thoroughly deserved.

Both are right. I don't think Americans fully absorbed the depths to which this country's reputation had sunk under the Cheney era. That's understandable. And so they also haven't fully absorbed the turn-around in the world's view of America that Obama and the American people have accomplished. Of course, this has yet to bear real fruit. But you can begin to see how it could; and I hope more see both the peaceful intentions and the steely resolve of this man to persevere."

Fair? So left wing nut stories are fair but not Conservative views?

Steely Resolve? What to drive this country down the toilet like he is doing now? Killing what's left of our economy and our military?

Economically history has shown what he is doing prolongs the recession not ends it.
But who cares about history. Not liberals, that's obvious.

shooz · 10-09-2009, 09:42 AM

View?
Conservative/Repulicans are mostly blind.

graphicgr8s · 10-09-2009, 09:43 AM

Originally posted by shooz

View?
Conservative/Repulicans are mostly blind.

Liberals are brain dead.

shooz · 10-09-2009, 09:47 AM

At least they have one.

shooz · 10-09-2009, 09:48 AM

How long before this one gets shut down?
Bets anyone?

Blue · 10-09-2009, 10:04 AM

Originally posted by graphicgr8s

Liberals are brain dead.

Mushrooms don't have brains. To culture them, they must be kept in the dark and fed manure. However, insects have brains which makes them infinitely more capable of adapting to a changing environment.

10-09-2009, 10:04 AM	#45
Blue Moderator Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Florida Hill Country Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 17,377	Originally posted by graphicgr8s Liberals are brain dead. Mushrooms don't have brains. To culture them, they must be kept in the dark and fed manure. However, insects have brains which makes them infinitely more capable of adapting to a changing environment. Last edited by Blue; 10-09-2009 at 03:38 PM.

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10-09-2009, 09:14 AM	#31
EricT Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 484	Originally posted by Parallax Exactly. At the time of his nomination he wasn't in the middle of accomplishing anything. All he had done was say what he was going to try to accomplish. At the time of nomination, yes. However, the actual choice was made later, and Obama has already shown several key issues he wants to address, for instance wrt nuclear disarmament and the middle east. Hell, even George W. Bush got nominated, in 2002!

10-09-2009, 09:16 AM	#32
graphicgr8s Guest	Originally posted by deadwolfbones Also: Hitler was nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize in 1939 on the basis of the peaceful resolution of the Sudetenland Crisis; but the nomination was rejected by the Nobel Prize Committee. This all took place before Hitler started the World War II.

10-09-2009, 09:17 AM	#33
deadwolfbones Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: La Crescenta, CA Posts: 7,450	Interesting summation of world reactions here: World Reaction to a Nobel Surprise - The Lede Blog - NYTimes.com

10-09-2009, 09:21 AM	#34
shooz Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Detroit Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,491	Alfred E. Neuman? Kinda looked like Thebush.........No wait....He could eat pretzels!

10-09-2009, 09:22 AM	#35
Ratmagiclady Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: GA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 13,563	Originally posted by EricT At the time of nomination, yes. However, the actual choice was made later, and Obama has already shown several key issues he wants to address, for instance wrt nuclear disarmament and the middle east. Hell, even George W. Bush got nominated, in 2002! The Bush nomination was kind of a joke as far as anyone I know was concerned, ...it's not like the Right over here waited ten minutes before calling Obama a 'dictator,' though. Apparently, in by their own account, before he'd 'done anything.' Intriguing.

10-09-2009, 09:24 AM	#36
shooz Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Detroit Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,491	They are just mad that Hollwood Ron didn't get one.

10-09-2009, 09:29 AM	#37
johnmflores Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Somerville, NJ Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 5,361	Here's a fair analysis: The Daily Dish \| By Andrew Sullivan "I've had some coffee now. Reading through all the reactions, compiled by Chris and Patrick, there are two obvious points: this is premature and this is thoroughly deserved. Both are right. I don't think Americans fully absorbed the depths to which this country's reputation had sunk under the Cheney era. That's understandable. And so they also haven't fully absorbed the turn-around in the world's view of America that Obama and the American people have accomplished. Of course, this has yet to bear real fruit. But you can begin to see how it could; and I hope more see both the peaceful intentions and the steely resolve of this man to persevere."

10-09-2009, 09:32 AM	#38
Doorknob Inactive Account Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: West of West Posts: 5	I awoke this morning, heard the news and had to check the calendar, thought it was April 1st.

10-09-2009, 09:32 AM	#39
Ratmagiclady Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: GA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 13,563	Originally posted by johnmflores Both are right. I don't think Americans fully absorbed the depths to which this country's reputation had sunk under the Cheney era. That's understandable. And so they also haven't fully absorbed the turn-around in the world's view of America that Obama and the American people have accomplished. Of course, this has yet to bear real fruit. But you can begin to see how it could; and I hope more see both the peaceful intentions and the steely resolve of this man to persevere." Painfully aware. I'm still freaked out. But getting us back on the bright side of the Force and inspiring the planet ain't nothing.

10-09-2009, 09:40 AM	#40
graphicgr8s Guest	Originally posted by johnmflores Here's a fair analysis: The Daily Dish \| By Andrew Sullivan "I've had some coffee now. Reading through all the reactions, compiled by Chris and Patrick, there are two obvious points: this is premature and this is thoroughly deserved. Both are right. I don't think Americans fully absorbed the depths to which this country's reputation had sunk under the Cheney era. That's understandable. And so they also haven't fully absorbed the turn-around in the world's view of America that Obama and the American people have accomplished. Of course, this has yet to bear real fruit. But you can begin to see how it could; and I hope more see both the peaceful intentions and the steely resolve of this man to persevere." Fair? So left wing nut stories are fair but not Conservative views? Steely Resolve? What to drive this country down the toilet like he is doing now? Killing what's left of our economy and our military? Economically history has shown what he is doing prolongs the recession not ends it. But who cares about history. Not liberals, that's obvious.

10-09-2009, 09:42 AM	#41
shooz Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Detroit Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,491	View? Conservative/Repulicans are mostly blind.

10-09-2009, 09:43 AM	#42
graphicgr8s Guest	Originally posted by shooz View? Conservative/Repulicans are mostly blind. Liberals are brain dead.

10-09-2009, 09:47 AM	#43
shooz Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Detroit Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,491	At least they have one.

10-09-2009, 09:48 AM	#44
shooz Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Detroit Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,491	How long before this one gets shut down? Bets anyone?