i found most parents are clueless past basic geometry and some elementary physics

Me too but aren't most people?

Home schooling is a serious thing and not to be taken lightly. It is something that would also need to be reevaluated frequently. There's always the option for paying for tuition to cover certain subjects as and when necessary.
I don't consider the social aspect such an issue. A lot depends on where you live, if a child has the opportunity to socialise outside the school environment for example.
We're not the only family who is concerned about the standards in schools these days. Birds of a feather flock together, the internet makes it easy for like minded people in the same area to find each other. I predict that some groups will start forming their own 'private schools', collectively work together in educating their children and hire tutors to fill in the gaps.

[Das Boot]

We're not the only family who is concerned about the standards in schools these days. Birds of a feather flock together, the internet makes it easy for like minded people in the same area to find each other. I predict that some groups will start forming their own 'private schools', collectively work together in educating their children and hire tutors to fill in the gaps.

I know families that do something like that. The group goes to a different houses each day of the week and they study the subject that that one particular parent knows well. It really works out well.

[Ratmagiclady]

Me too but aren't most people?

Home schooling is a serious thing and not to be taken lightly. It is something that would also need to be reevaluated frequently. There's always the option for paying for tuition to cover certain subjects as and when necessary.
I don't consider the social aspect such an issue. A lot depends on where you live, if a child has the opportunity to socialise outside the school environment for example.
We're not the only family who is concerned about the standards in schools these days. Birds of a feather flock together, the internet makes it easy for like minded people in the same area to find each other. I predict that some groups will start forming their own 'private schools', collectively work together in educating their children and hire tutors to fill in the gaps.

That's pretty much it, more or less, Brit. Most of the time 'home schooling' is heard about in the context of people who both want their view of religion and politics (exclusively) imposed in schools, but also want state money to raise their kids in isolation from any other point of view.

Fact is, public schools are hit or miss, and no one wants to support them, even if they're just about *the* prime factor as regards the values of all that real estate that some don't want to pay taxes on real estate to support said values about.... even while speculating on real estate values and not wanting to pay taxes on education to put some kind of substance behind the real estate bubbles....

I know a *lot* of people who home-school, just because, to be quite frank, they can do better at education than the third-string of the corporate world trying to deal with some people trying to turn public schools political and religious for other people's kids while demanding 'vouchers' for their own...

It doesn't represent a goodness about what is being done to the public school system, but if enough people can cooperate, it's almost customary to go to public schools to learn about actually getting along with other people while getting education about what used to be the basics at home.

Fact is, too many Americans just don't care about the schools unless they're either trying to gut the funds or turn them into 'missionary fields,' ...by crippling things like science education. Or telling teachers they aren't allowed to say to kids their own Moms are people. Meanwhile, teachers are underpaid, overburdened, constrained by people who want religious views taught exclusively... dealing with an underfunded system, and treated like pawns of Jimmy Hoffa if they dare try to do anything about it.

Shouldn't be this way, but...There's been a longstanding assault on public education, by whatever means or excuses some thinks plays this year. It's been on since I was *in* elementary school. Probably long before.

People don't respect education, too often, is what it is. Just more politics to them.

Not you.

Afraid I'd show you up again?
Bless your heart.

Afraid I'd show you up again?
Bless your heart.

I'm open to changing my mind but I want to see that essay from you first.

That's pretty much it, more or less, Brit. Most of the time 'home schooling' is heard about in the context of people who both want their view of religion and politics (exclusively) imposed in schools, but also want state money to raise their kids in isolation from any other point of view.

Fact is, public schools are hit or miss, and no one wants to support them, even if they're just about *the* prime factor as regards the values of all that real estate that some don't want to pay taxes on real estate to support said values about.... even while speculating on real estate values and not wanting to pay taxes on education to put some kind of substance behind the real estate bubbles....

I know a *lot* of people who home-school, just because, to be quite frank, they can do better at education than the third-string of the corporate world trying to deal with some people trying to turn public schools political and religious for other people's kids while demanding 'vouchers' for their own...

It doesn't represent a goodness about what is being done to the public school system, but if enough people can cooperate, it's almost customary to go to public schools to learn about actually getting along with other people while getting education about what used to be the basics at home.

Fact is, too many Americans just don't care about the schools unless they're either trying to gut the funds or turn them into 'missionary fields,' ...by crippling things like science education. Or telling teachers they aren't allowed to say to kids their own Moms are people. Meanwhile, teachers are underpaid, overburdened, constrained by people who want religious views taught exclusively... dealing with an underfunded system, and treated like pawns of Jimmy Hoffa if they dare try to do anything about it.
Well this part I'll agree with you
Shouldn't be this way, but...There's been a longstanding assault on public education, by whatever means or excuses some thinks plays this year. It's been on since I was *in* elementary school. Probably long before.

People don't respect education, too often, is what it is. Just more politics to them.

But it's okay to teach evolution to the exclusion of creation? Fact is it is also the parents fault for not working with the kids. I've seen it myself. I've also seen the results when parents do work with the kids. It's not all the schools fault.

And you're back to bashing again.

I'm open to changing my mind but I want to see that essay from you first.

What essay?


I'm still debating this myself however. Thankfully I still have 11 months to decide. By that time he should be doing Calculus.

What essay?


I'm still debating this myself however. Thankfully I still have 11 months to decide. By that time he should be doing Calculus.

This one - https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/808235-post42.html

There's quite a few of us waiting with baited breath for you to enlighten us.

This one - https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/808235-post42.html

There's quite a few of us waiting with baited breath for you to enlighten us.

Show me the money I'll show you the essay.

[monochrome]

Money is fungible, meaning that lottery money dedicated to education simply replaces the General Revenue money that FORMERLY went to education, which is spent elsewhere.

There is no net increase to education funding, although that is always IMPLIED when the lottery is proposed.

Lotteries tend to be sold on the basis they'll pay for education, then when people don't want to pay taxes, they end up having to get looted to keep the state running.

Same with a lot of 'sin taxes:' these are used to claim they are funding various programs at the levels you'd see if they didn't deter their own revenue source, thus causing those (usually 'librul' ) programs to fall short of the promised budget.

With tobacco, of course, this does have other benefits, since it does seem to reduce smoking, but it does tend to choke its own revenue stream, as well as meaning the poorest people who tend to pay the most of these taxes just have less money to spend in their local economies. It's one of the few taxes a government can 'sell,' though.

Basically, the lottery and such 'sin taxes' are regressive in economic impact, and you bet it affects small business. Last I was through North Carolina, though, tobacco was taxed a whole lot less than anyone else, (Cause they have big tobacco there) so they've been behind the usual, anyway.

As for selling grades, WTF. That's just wrong on so many levels.

How bout funding the schools rather than hitting the kids up for their lunch money?

Money is fungible, meaning that lottery money dedicated to education simply replaces the General Revenue money that FORMERLY went to education, which is spent elsewhere.

There is no net increase to education funding, although that is always IMPLIED when the lottery is proposed.

Lawton Chiles. Florida's Governor at the time touted that the lottery would be used to enhance education. That it would be inn addition to the moneys from the General Fund. I knew that what would happen is whatever money came from lottery proceeds would be deducted dollar for dollar from the GF. My liberal friends said that wouldn't happen. It of course did. And you see the lottery signs touting 20 billion to education since the start of the lottery. Never saying that the money just replaced the GF money. G8 was right again. As usual.

[Gooshin]

Show me the money I'll show you the essay.

dude, you're a stay at home dad at the moment, might as well write something down. (unless that was someoen else i'm thinking of)

dude, you're a stay at home dad at the moment, might as well write something down. (unless that was someoen else i'm thinking of)

How dare you mistake him for me.

Of course, if he doesn't come up with something, he loses all credibility in General Talk.

Every time he spouts something, just ask him where the essay is.


I'm going for a walk (with my head down).

[Das Boot]

In defense of the stay-at-home parent - It's a far tougher job than what people think. I use to think it would be a mini vacation, it's far from it.

[Parallax]

.................How many of you here can still do regression analysis..

I kin cipher right good, and I aint too bad with guzintas. You know, like 4 guzinta 8 twice, 3 guzinta 9 3 times.