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11-18-2009, 06:46 PM   #1
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So the Algore says the core temperature of the earth is several million degrees. Interesting to say the least. If it were a few (4) million degrees they would call it a Star.
And people actually believed him on global warming?

Al Gore: Earth's Interior 'Extremely Hot, Several Million Degrees' | NewsBusters.org


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For several years as uneducated sycophants in the media gushed and fawned over every utterance from former Vice President Al Gore, NewsBusters has informed readers of just how absurd the junk science he's peddling really is.

Last Thursday, NBC "Tonight Show" viewers got a perfect example of how the Nobel Laureate basically makes things up, and that his poor grades in college were quite an indicator of just how little he understands about science.
Can this guy get anything right?

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Al Gore has never been one to let facts and reality get in the way of his agenda. Sad part is that some poeple actually believe what he says.
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QuoteOriginally posted by graphicgr8s Quote
So the Algore says the core temperature of the earth is several million degrees. Interesting to say the least. If it were a few (4) million degrees they would call it a Star.
And people actually believed him on global warming?

Al Gore: Earth's Interior 'Extremely Hot, Several Million Degrees' | NewsBusters.org



Can this guy get anything right?

Er, don't try to do physics, Graphics.


The core temperature of the Earth *is* in fact similar to surface temperatures of many main sequence stars. This doesn't actually facto into global warming much.
It's not millions, though.


Ooooh. You thought he was speaking *literally.* *laugh.* No.


'sevral million' is just 'a lot' in the slang of those who know what a million degrees is. ' as in like, 'None milliopn' meaning 'quite a few. Really. Al Gore knows that the scale doesn't go that high. That's not a 'gotcha, ' that's just ....showing you don't know people *know* that.

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If I remember right the core is solid iron ---- which would be impossible if it were several million degrees. It's also how we knew when and where the Ruskies were testing nukes (kindof complicated line of sight thing).

11-18-2009, 07:37 PM   #5
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QuoteOriginally posted by Ratmagiclady Quote
Er, don't try to do physics, Graphics.


The core temperature of the Earth *is* in fact similar to surface temperatures of many main sequence stars. This doesn't actually facto into global warming much.
It's not millions, though.
Temperature of the Earth's core

Question:
How hot is the Earth's core, approximately, and how can it be measured?
kathleen n mecham

Answer:
There is no way to measure the temperature at the Earth's core
directly. We know from mines and drill holes that, near
the surface of the Earth, the temperature increases by about
1 degree Fahrenheit for every 60 feet in depth. If this
temperature increase continued to the center of the Earth, the
Earth's core would be 100,000 degrees Celsius!

But nobody believes the Earth is that hot; the temperature increase
must slow down with depth and the core is probably
about 3000 to 5000 degrees Celsius.

This estimate of the temperature is derived from theoretical
modeling and laboratory experiments. This work is very
difficult (and speculative) since nobody can reproduce
in a laboratory the high temperatures and pressures that
exist in the core. Also it is not known exactly what
the core is made of.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Das Boot Quote
If I remember right the core is solid iron ---- which would be impossible if it were several million degrees. It's also how we knew when and where the Ruskies were testing nukes (kindof complicated line of sight thing).

*facepalm* Al Gore didn't mean he actually thought that the Earth's mantle was measured in millions of degrees.


It's just a turn of phrase people who know better would recognize. When my sister says 'It's nine million degrees out' she doesn't mean she took a measurement.


Yeesh.
11-18-2009, 07:46 PM   #7
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The physics and astronomy website Physlink also contests Gore's absurd claim:

It is approximately 4000C at the centre of the Earth. To put this in context:

1. The centre of the Sun is approximately 15 millionC
2. The surface of the Sun is 5500C
3. Iron melts at 1535C (when at atmospheric pressure)
4. Water boils at 100C (when at atmospheric pressure)
5. Human skin is comfortable with temperatures up to about 60C
6. The highest temperature recorded on the Earth's surface is 58C (Libya 1922)

It is not possible to directly measure the temperature at the centre of the Earth and four thousand degrees is nothing more than our most well-established piece of guesswork to date. Most modern calculations rely on the fact that we believe the inner core to be made up of iron and nickel that is just about at melting point. It is under a lot of pressure, which prevents it from melting, even at such high temperatures. There is also a lot of evidence regarding how the outer core of the Earth convects and that helps to establish the temperature. However, recently British scientists have suggested that the temperature of the Earth's core may in fact be as high as the surface of the Sun, so the question is still open.

As such, whether it's 4,000 or 6,000 degrees, Gore's claim of "several million" is absurdly preposterous and not based on ANY scientific fact.

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I can't even believe we're supposed to be teaching Creationism in schools, on very thin 'gaps' and you think someone saying 'million' is sufficient grounds to discredit all science.


It just means *a lot.* Really.

I mean. Listen.


Listen.

Nothing Al Gore *ever said* was ever premised on the core temperature of the Earth being within three orders of magnitude of millions of degrees.

Nothing.


He was just saying 'wicked hot' On Conan.

OK?


Gods.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Ratmagiclady Quote
*facepalm* Al Gore didn't mean he actually thought that the Earth's mantle was measured in millions of degrees.


It's just a turn of phrase people who know better would recognize. When my sister says 'It's nine million degrees out' she doesn't mean she took a measurement.


Yeesh.
Yeah "Yeesh" Algore meant what he said. Most normal people would say " It's a few thousand degrees" Not several million. And geothermal isn't "new"
11-18-2009, 07:50 PM   #10
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QuoteOriginally posted by Ratmagiclady Quote
I can't even believe we're supposed to be teaching Creationism in schools, on very thin 'gaps' and you think someone saying 'million' is sufficient grounds to discredit all science.


It just means *a lot.* Really.
No just algore trying to act like he has a brain. Everyone with a modicum of intelligence knows he's not very intelligent at all. In fact most intelligent people think he's an idiot. Shoot he didn't even know who is in the hall of presidents.
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Nothing Al Gore ever said was ever premised on the measurement you claim.


Get. Over it.


He just meant 'wicked hot.'

That's all.

Ok? All non-Exxon-paid scientists in the world are not telling Al Gore the Earth's mantle is millions of degrees anything. The Sun's photosphere hits makey 40K Kelvin at most, most of the time, and that's about as hot as it gets unless you don't particularly care for hydrogen shells.


It just means *hot.*


Also, this link *accuses* him of being some kind of heretic about 'worshipping Mammagaia.'


No, not him. You wanna give someone a hard time about that, look at me. (Like that should disqualify someone from public discourse, anyway.)


He's not there. Ain't what he's saying, ain't what scientific consensus is saying. You wanna give someone a hard time for pantheism, ...

Over here.


Eedjit.


(This may be difficult for you to understand, but he's not a 'prophet.' Or a scientist. He's just tryin to do the right thing. Really. )

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11-18-2009, 07:56 PM   #12
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QuoteOriginally posted by Ratmagiclady Quote
Nothing Al Gore ever said was ever premised on the measurement you claim.


Get. Over it.


He just meant 'wicked hot.'

That's all.
If a lib says something as stupid as the algore you'll defend him whether he's right or not. Usually he gets it wrong. Actually he always gets it wrong and you defend him. He's a lib after all. A Conservative says things correctly you deny it. Which may or may not leave your level of intelligence in question.
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Nothing Al Gore ever said was ever premised on the measurement you claim.


Get. Over it.
I'm not so sure. Al has had a history of embellishment. Invent the internet? Common... When his "Inconvient Truth" was attempted to be taught in UK schools, the courts intervened and declared nine of the truths to actually be UNTRUTHS. They were actually embellishments. It was deemed inappropriate for the classroom.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Das Boot Quote
I'm not so sure. Al has had a history of embellishment. Invent the internet? Common... When his "Inconvient Truth" was attempted to be taught in UK schools, the courts intervened and declared nine of the truths to actually be UNTRUTHS. It was deemed inappropriate for the classroom.
Wonder how come AP never fact checked that? Actually he never said he invented the internet.
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Actually he never said he invented the internet.
It was an embellishment.
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