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Parallax · 12-16-2009, 10:25 AM

Originally posted by Peter Zack

We need peace keeping more than ever.

You're right, we do. And the first major step to that would be to abolish the U.N.

deadwolfbones · 12-16-2009, 10:36 AM

Brilliant plan. I assume you'd want the U.S. Army to step in and take its place?

Parallax · 12-16-2009, 10:38 AM

Originally posted by deadwolfbones

Brilliant plan. I assume you'd want the U.S. Army to step in and take its place?

Actually, no. What I'm kind of hoping for is EVERYBODY will just stay home.

deadwolfbones · 12-16-2009, 10:40 AM

Sorry, isolationism is completely retarded in today's global marketplace.

Parallax · 12-16-2009, 10:42 AM

Originally posted by deadwolfbones

Sorry, isolationism is completely retarded in today's global marketplace.

Long term isolationism is. You are right, but I can't help think that a year or two might not smooth everything out a bit.

Peter Zack · 12-16-2009, 10:45 AM

Sure they want to move the office to Halifax. I'd support that.

I'm not going to get drawn in to a debate on the wastfulness. I think it needs a serious reformation myself. Far too much $$ is wasted just pushing pencils. Plus they really need a leader with guts and a high energy profile. Someone who isn't scared to be turfed out by pushing forward.

But let me tell you, when you're sitting in a hotel, stuck on an island, the bomb explosions can be heard in the distance and there are jets overhead and tanks in the streets, you'd have a different view of Blue Berets. I was and am grateful. You quickly realize how powerless you are as a civilian.

cardinal43 · 12-16-2009, 10:48 AM

Originally posted by graphicgr8s

So I see this post from RML. Before I read it I just took a wild guess that it would have some Bush bashing, some Right bashing some corporate bashing, and some more of how we should give money to the "poor". Then I read it. Sure enough, as usual I was Right.

That's no different from seeing one of your posts and know that you will be bashing Obama, et al. Why is it Ok for you, but not for someone else? Pot, meet Mr. Kettle.

graphicgr8s · 12-16-2009, 10:51 AM

Originally posted by Peter Zack

Sure they want to move the office to Halifax. I'd support that.

I'm not going to get drawn in to a debate on the wastfulness. I think it needs a serious reformation myself. Far too much $$ is wasted just pushing pencils. Plus they really need a leader with guts and a high energy profile. Someone who isn't scared to be turfed out by pushing forward.

But let me tell you, when you're sitting in a hotel, stuck on an island, the bomb explosions can be heard in the distance and there are jets overhead and tanks in the streets, you'd have a different view of Blue Berets. I was and am grateful. You quickly realize how powerless you are as a civilian.

You mean like the people in the WTC? On an island?

graphicgr8s · 12-16-2009, 10:52 AM

Originally posted by cardinal43

That's no different from seeing one of your posts and know that you will be bashing Obama, et al. Why is it Ok for you, but not for someone else? Pot, meet Mr. Kettle.

Actually I have said nice things about the Obama.

deadwolfbones · 12-16-2009, 10:56 AM

Originally posted by graphicgr8s

You mean like the people in the WTC? On an island?

Mind filling in your halfassed connection re: what the utility of the UN has to do with the WTC attacks?

graphicgr8s · 12-16-2009, 11:21 AM

Originally posted by deadwolfbones

Mind filling in your halfassed connection re: what the utility of the UN has to do with the WTC attacks?

Was just connecting Peter in a hotel on an island.

Stuck in a building on an island? WTC on Manhattan Island? Explosions?

Peter Zack · 12-16-2009, 11:33 AM

George that's almost offensive. The UN couldn't possibly stop what happened on 911. The 2 events (Cyprus in 1974 and the WTC) are in no way connected and happened for entirely different reasons. One is historical and what we would call conventional warfare. The other was the US training a terrorist to defeat the Russians and then stupidly thinking he would go back to knitting after the job was done. The UN had nothing to do with it and no way to prevent it.

graphicgr8s · 12-16-2009, 11:35 AM

Originally posted by Peter Zack

George that's almost offensive. The UN couldn't possibly stop what happened on 911. The 2 events (Cyprus in 1974 and the WTC) are in no way connected and happened for entirely different reasons. One is historical and what we would call conventional warfare. The other was the US training a terrorist to defeat the Russians and then stupidly thinking he would go back to knitting after the job was done. The UN had nothing to do with it and no way to prevent it.

Peter wasn't referring to UN at all really. Just you, the island, the hotel, the explosions. Wasn't meant to be offensive at all. Sorry.

The UN couldn't have stopped it. But Slick Willy could have prevented it.

Parallax · 12-16-2009, 11:37 AM

Peter, he wasn't making any connection between the U.N. and the WTC. The analogy was merely you being helpless on an island, and those in the WTC being in the same predicament.

deadwolfbones · 12-16-2009, 11:38 AM

Originally posted by Parallax

Peter, he wasn't making any connection between the U.N. and the WTC. The analogy was merely you being helpless on an island, and those in the WTC being in the same predicament.

But how is that in any way germane to the thread?

A: It's not, and he's said as much. Let's move on.

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12-16-2009, 10:25 AM	#16
Parallax Senior Moderator Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: South Dakota Photos: Gallery Posts: 19,333	Originally posted by Peter Zack We need peace keeping more than ever. You're right, we do. And the first major step to that would be to abolish the U.N.

12-16-2009, 10:36 AM	#17
deadwolfbones Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Santa Fe, NM Posts: 7,451	Brilliant plan. I assume you'd want the U.S. Army to step in and take its place?

12-16-2009, 10:38 AM	#18
Parallax Senior Moderator Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: South Dakota Photos: Gallery Posts: 19,333	Originally posted by deadwolfbones Brilliant plan. I assume you'd want the U.S. Army to step in and take its place? Actually, no. What I'm kind of hoping for is EVERYBODY will just stay home.

12-16-2009, 10:40 AM	#19
deadwolfbones Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Santa Fe, NM Posts: 7,451	Sorry, isolationism is completely retarded in today's global marketplace.

12-16-2009, 10:42 AM	#20
Parallax Senior Moderator Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: South Dakota Photos: Gallery Posts: 19,333	Originally posted by deadwolfbones Sorry, isolationism is completely retarded in today's global marketplace. Long term isolationism is. You are right, but I can't help think that a year or two might not smooth everything out a bit.

12-16-2009, 10:45 AM	#21
Peter Zack Pentaxian Moderator Emeritus Join Date: May 2007 Location: Edmonton Alberta, Canada Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 10,643	Sure they want to move the office to Halifax. I'd support that. I'm not going to get drawn in to a debate on the wastfulness. I think it needs a serious reformation myself. Far too much $$ is wasted just pushing pencils. Plus they really need a leader with guts and a high energy profile. Someone who isn't scared to be turfed out by pushing forward. But let me tell you, when you're sitting in a hotel, stuck on an island, the bomb explosions can be heard in the distance and there are jets overhead and tanks in the streets, you'd have a different view of Blue Berets. I was and am grateful. You quickly realize how powerless you are as a civilian.

12-16-2009, 10:48 AM	#22
cardinal43 Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Virginia Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,412	Originally posted by graphicgr8s So I see this post from RML. Before I read it I just took a wild guess that it would have some Bush bashing, some Right bashing some corporate bashing, and some more of how we should give money to the "poor". Then I read it. Sure enough, as usual I was Right. That's no different from seeing one of your posts and know that you will be bashing Obama, et al. Why is it Ok for you, but not for someone else? Pot, meet Mr. Kettle.

12-16-2009, 10:51 AM	#23
graphicgr8s Guest	Originally posted by Peter Zack Sure they want to move the office to Halifax. I'd support that. I'm not going to get drawn in to a debate on the wastfulness. I think it needs a serious reformation myself. Far too much $$ is wasted just pushing pencils. Plus they really need a leader with guts and a high energy profile. Someone who isn't scared to be turfed out by pushing forward. But let me tell you, when you're sitting in a hotel, stuck on an island, the bomb explosions can be heard in the distance and there are jets overhead and tanks in the streets, you'd have a different view of Blue Berets. I was and am grateful. You quickly realize how powerless you are as a civilian. You mean like the people in the WTC? On an island?

12-16-2009, 10:52 AM	#24
graphicgr8s Guest	Originally posted by cardinal43 That's no different from seeing one of your posts and know that you will be bashing Obama, et al. Why is it Ok for you, but not for someone else? Pot, meet Mr. Kettle. Actually I have said nice things about the Obama.

12-16-2009, 10:56 AM	#25
deadwolfbones Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Santa Fe, NM Posts: 7,451	Originally posted by graphicgr8s You mean like the people in the WTC? On an island? Mind filling in your halfassed connection re: what the utility of the UN has to do with the WTC attacks?

12-16-2009, 11:21 AM	#26
graphicgr8s Guest	Originally posted by deadwolfbones Mind filling in your halfassed connection re: what the utility of the UN has to do with the WTC attacks? Was just connecting Peter in a hotel on an island. Stuck in a building on an island? WTC on Manhattan Island? Explosions?

12-16-2009, 11:33 AM	#27
Peter Zack Pentaxian Moderator Emeritus Join Date: May 2007 Location: Edmonton Alberta, Canada Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 10,643	George that's almost offensive. The UN couldn't possibly stop what happened on 911. The 2 events (Cyprus in 1974 and the WTC) are in no way connected and happened for entirely different reasons. One is historical and what we would call conventional warfare. The other was the US training a terrorist to defeat the Russians and then stupidly thinking he would go back to knitting after the job was done. The UN had nothing to do with it and no way to prevent it.

12-16-2009, 11:35 AM	#28
graphicgr8s Guest	Originally posted by Peter Zack George that's almost offensive. The UN couldn't possibly stop what happened on 911. The 2 events (Cyprus in 1974 and the WTC) are in no way connected and happened for entirely different reasons. One is historical and what we would call conventional warfare. The other was the US training a terrorist to defeat the Russians and then stupidly thinking he would go back to knitting after the job was done. The UN had nothing to do with it and no way to prevent it. Peter wasn't referring to UN at all really. Just you, the island, the hotel, the explosions. Wasn't meant to be offensive at all. Sorry. The UN couldn't have stopped it. But Slick Willy could have prevented it.

12-16-2009, 11:37 AM	#29
Parallax Senior Moderator Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: South Dakota Photos: Gallery Posts: 19,333	Peter, he wasn't making any connection between the U.N. and the WTC. The analogy was merely you being helpless on an island, and those in the WTC being in the same predicament.

12-16-2009, 11:38 AM	#30
deadwolfbones Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Santa Fe, NM Posts: 7,451	Originally posted by Parallax Peter, he wasn't making any connection between the U.N. and the WTC. The analogy was merely you being helpless on an island, and those in the WTC being in the same predicament. But how is that in any way germane to the thread? A: It's not, and he's said as much. Let's move on.

Has the UN had its day?

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