Michael Steele just sent me an email, asking for money

Rupert · 12-16-2009, 02:50 PM

Originally posted by deadwolfbones

Wouldn't it be socialist of me to give to the undeserving?

Before you send it, check out some of those "now available" Tiger girls. They are much better looking, a higher grade of tramps, and your chances of catching a deadly disease are much less.
Regards

Phil1 · 12-17-2009, 07:01 AM

'Thing is Peter most just blame Bush. Well at least one does. This financial crap started before all of them. It goes way back to the Carter. And really if you look at it it's mostly the likes of Barney Frank and Dodd and Obama that perpetuated the problem.'

This isn't so much a lefty-righty blame thing but the country had a warning years back in the S&L debauchle. You had a deregulation of sorts and a gov't (read taxpayer) under funded insurance Ponzi scheme. Well suckers, John Q Public paid big time.

The lesson was not heeded by the collective gov't officials of both parties. It is fun to YouTube Barney Frank et al defending Fannie Mae/Mac. Buchco should have pushed harder for tightening controls. We have a bus driver now that would love the banks to start writing crappy paper again. If they do you will eventually pay for it again. Reality is a bitch.

One thing you can be pretty sure of, Hope and Change won't buy you a cup of coffee in the reality of things and the gov't will screw it up 100% of the time.

I just had to watch it one more time:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63siCHvuGFg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_-pxrZdSKQ&NR=1&feature=fvwp

Peter Zack · 12-17-2009, 07:31 AM

We just go around in circles with these discussions. I posted to a similar thread a few months ago that It wasn't Obama or Bush or Clinton or bush or Carter or..... It was all of them. Each one just wanted to get through their terms with the least hassle and controversy. So they ignored the clear signs of impending trouble to grow the economy.

I can hear the discussion behind closed doors at the White house: "OK so we relax this rule or deregulate that sector and we'll see 6-8 years of big growth numbers" "yeah but it's not sustainable, it will crash and plus there's a huge loophole for fraud and scams"... "no problem, we'll all be playing golf, on book tours and out of office when it crashes. All I'm concerned with is how I look right now. Someone else can deal with the fallout"

I mean look at the SEC. They had so many insider warnings that these Ponzi schemes were happening and they completely ignored the warnings. The idea that they could freeze 50 billion and send the markets into a spin was unthinkable. So they crossed their fingers and hoped the markets would sustain it.

Same for the mortgage mess. They all knew it would crash. Everything is fine until there's a correction. "lets just hope it doesn't happen on our watch"

Phil1 · 12-17-2009, 09:13 AM

Peter nailed it.

To me that is why this health care thing is so scarry. The Gov't will screw it up royally. I wish it were otherwise.

Parallax · 12-17-2009, 09:46 AM

Politicians, ALL politicians operate from a bastardized version of
Mazlow's Hierarchy of Needs. I made up a graphic to illustrate.

SOME of them lightly pencil in "Accomplish something" between level 4 and 5.

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12-16-2009, 02:50 PM	#31
Rupert Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Texas Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 25,123	Originally posted by deadwolfbones Wouldn't it be socialist of me to give to the undeserving? Before you send it, check out some of those "now available" Tiger girls. They are much better looking, a higher grade of tramps, and your chances of catching a deadly disease are much less. Regards

12-17-2009, 07:01 AM	#32
Phil1 Inactive Account Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: SoCal Posts: 1,292	'Thing is Peter most just blame Bush. Well at least one does. This financial crap started before all of them. It goes way back to the Carter. And really if you look at it it's mostly the likes of Barney Frank and Dodd and Obama that perpetuated the problem.' This isn't so much a lefty-righty blame thing but the country had a warning years back in the S&L debauchle. You had a deregulation of sorts and a gov't (read taxpayer) under funded insurance Ponzi scheme. Well suckers, John Q Public paid big time. The lesson was not heeded by the collective gov't officials of both parties. It is fun to YouTube Barney Frank et al defending Fannie Mae/Mac. Buchco should have pushed harder for tightening controls. We have a bus driver now that would love the banks to start writing crappy paper again. If they do you will eventually pay for it again. Reality is a bitch. One thing you can be pretty sure of, Hope and Change won't buy you a cup of coffee in the reality of things and the gov't will screw it up 100% of the time. I just had to watch it one more time: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63siCHvuGFg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_-pxrZdSKQ&NR=1&feature=fvwp

12-17-2009, 07:31 AM	#33
Peter Zack Pentaxian Moderator Emeritus Join Date: May 2007 Location: Edmonton Alberta, Canada Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 10,643	We just go around in circles with these discussions. I posted to a similar thread a few months ago that It wasn't Obama or Bush or Clinton or bush or Carter or..... It was all of them. Each one just wanted to get through their terms with the least hassle and controversy. So they ignored the clear signs of impending trouble to grow the economy. I can hear the discussion behind closed doors at the White house: "OK so we relax this rule or deregulate that sector and we'll see 6-8 years of big growth numbers" "yeah but it's not sustainable, it will crash and plus there's a huge loophole for fraud and scams"... "no problem, we'll all be playing golf, on book tours and out of office when it crashes. All I'm concerned with is how I look right now. Someone else can deal with the fallout" I mean look at the SEC. They had so many insider warnings that these Ponzi schemes were happening and they completely ignored the warnings. The idea that they could freeze 50 billion and send the markets into a spin was unthinkable. So they crossed their fingers and hoped the markets would sustain it. Same for the mortgage mess. They all knew it would crash. Everything is fine until there's a correction. "lets just hope it doesn't happen on our watch"

12-17-2009, 09:13 AM	#34
Phil1 Inactive Account Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: SoCal Posts: 1,292	Peter nailed it. To me that is why this health care thing is so scarry. The Gov't will screw it up royally. I wish it were otherwise.

12-17-2009, 09:46 AM	#35
Parallax Senior Moderator Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: South Dakota Photos: Gallery Posts: 19,332	Politicians, ALL politicians operate from a bastardized version of Mazlow's Hierarchy of Needs. I made up a graphic to illustrate. SOME of them lightly pencil in "Accomplish something" between level 4 and 5.

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