[Phil1]

Thanks for the credit of a good nose. Maybe this will help:

In order to fold the 'southern states into a Declaration of Independance from England, slavery had to be accepted as legal for the southern states. Jefferson (Virginia) was a slave owner. Jefferson is the shining liberal of the founding fathers. The northern states were generally against slavery.

Civil War 1861/1865 (R) Pres Lincoln declares war against the south.

Emancipation Proclamation 1863 (R) Pres Lincoln
(The Union Army lost approximatly 360,000 men in this conflict)

Civil Rights militarily enforced 1957 by (R) Eisenhower

(R) Martin Luther King, the leading black civil rights leader and later assasinated in the southern state of Tennessee by James Earl Ray a convicted criminal.
(Ray's association with C. Stien, a Geo. Wallace follower i.e Segragationist Party spin-off from the Democrats).

Racist Democratic Governors such as Wallace, Faubus et al eventually fade away.

Civil Rights Act 1964 (D) Kennedy

It's good to review and good to know the Democrats, mostly southern, finally saw the wisdom in equal rights.

Here is some righty propaganda stolen from a site. Read it with caution:

It should come as no surprise that Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. was a Republican. In that era, almost all black Americans were Republicans. Why? From its founding in 1854 as the anti-slavery party until today, the Republican Party has championed freedom and civil rights for blacks. And as one pundit so succinctly stated, the Democrat Party is as it always has been, the party of the four S's: Slavery, Secession, Segregation and now Socialism.

It was the Democrats who fought to keep blacks in slavery and passed the discriminatory Black Codes and Jim Crow laws. The Democrats started the Ku Klux Klan to lynch and terrorize blacks. The Democrats fought to prevent the passage of every civil rights law beginning with the civil rights laws of the 1860's, and continuing with the civil rights laws of the 1950's and 1960's.

[Phil1]

Here is a little more 'first hand stuff' pirated from a site:

Posted on Tuesday, September 29, 2009 5:47:56 AM by Titmouse

I lived in Georgia for most of four decades before moving to the Roaring Fork Valley.

My mother's family was from New Orleans; she was born there, and I attended Tulane University. My children were born in Atlanta, and my grandparents owned a large farm — “plantation,” if you like — outside Thomasville in southwest Georgia.

I know the South pretty well, and I'm familiar with the cultural stereotypes that attach to anybody who has ever lived there.

I guess the “Stars ‘n' Bars” confederate battle flag tops the list. Then there's NASCAR and denim coveralls, banjos, cornbread and grits. Oh, yeah, and those white, Wal-Mart-shopping porkers who drive pickups fitted with gun racks, lust after farm animals (when their sisters are out of town) and hate black folks.

Toss in a jug of moonshine, and we've about picked-clean the stereotypical cotton field.

Then there are those historical “red-state” political associations: Republicans have no use for “people of color.” Pay no attention to the fact that a Republican president emancipated the slaves, and that a greater percentage of Republican legislators supported the Civil Rights Act than their Democrat counterparts.

Democrats founded the Ku Klux Klan, and Democrat governors barred the entrance to schoolhouses to little black girls with pigtails and frilly smocks. The Georgia of my youth featured a Democrat governor and segregationist, Lester Maddox, who waved a pickaxe handle at blacks attempting to enter his restaurant.

Robert Byrd, dean of the Senate — and longest serving senator in history — was a Grand Cyclops in the Ku Klux Klan, and, during WWII, he penned this letter to the segregationist Mississippi senator, Theodore Bilbo: “I shall never fight in the armed forces with a Negro by my side ... Rather I should die a thousand times, and see Old Glory trampled in the dirt never to rise again, than to see this beloved land of ours become degraded by race mongrels, a throwback to the blackest specimen from the wilds.”

Of course Byrd has recanted those philosophies for political expediency, but — unlike his colleague, Arlen Specter — Robert Byrd has never been a Republican, not even when he used the “n” word during a 2001 television interview and shocked everybody but his Senate colleagues and the press corps who humor him.

If that'd been Mississippi Sen. Trent Lott (R), instead of West Virginian Sen. Robert Byrd (D), the nation's dailies would've been inked with retributive blood.

Neither party can legitimately claim the racial tolerance high ground. Has one party whipped its recent history of race-based subsidies to great effect and ridden that horse to political hegemony? You bet it has.

Does that mean political pandering is to be admired, government dependency is good, and Democrats have the best, long-term answers for achieving real racial parity in this country?

History teaches us otherwise.

We have spent trillions on Lyndon Johnson “Great Society” programs — “reparations” by another name — and still face pervasive poverty, soaring illegitimacy rates, and black kids who can't get a decent education in America's inner-city schools.

Obama sends Malia and Sasha to Sidwell Friends School in Washington, D.C., but he buckled to teachers' union demands that killed the district voucher program. Seventeen-hundred black kids lost their places at private schools — including those at Sidwell Friends. In effect, Obama barred the school door after his daughters got seats. Alabama Gov. George Wallace is smiling in hell.

Let me deal you some “racist” reality: When campaign contributions talk, black kids walk.

Republicans have long sponsored school “competition,” via voucher programs that would free inner-city kids trapped in failing government schools. So, which party is advancing the interests of black America, and which party is pandering to “special interests?”

The Department of Education — that Carter-era stillbirth — has been plagued by waste, mismanagement and ineptitude. Spawned by the same party that now champions “competition,” (when pushing its “public option” in health care) the D.O.E. is another example of the failure of federal Mastodons.

Why is “competition” a good thing when Democrats talk about government-run health care for people without insurance options, but a bad thing when Republicans talk about private school vouchers for people without educational options?

My favorite White House, press corps image — captured this past July at the “beer-summit” — features a shirt-sleeved Obama striding manfully down the garden stair to greet the press, while, in the background, Sgt. Crowley extends his arm and helps handicapped Professor Gates down the steps.

We will never bridge the racial and cultural divides in America, until Democrats stop waving “racism!” like Lester Maddox's pickaxe handle.

It takes courage and action — not speeches — to bring about “change.”

[Mike Cash]

Civil War 1861/1865 (R) Pres Lincoln declares war against the south.

Emancipation Proclamation 1863 (R) Pres Lincoln

I don't disagree with the general thrust of what you're driving at, but there is no need to propagate the revisionist myth that the Civil War was fought to end slavery.

[Ratmagiclady]

Claiming the Democratic party is racist based on history is disingenuous at this point: the 'Southern Democrats' opposed civil rights, but most of them went to the Republican party over time as the political winds changed and the party rebranded. The social conservatives shifted parties, particularly when they became 'anti-labor.'

Trying to claim 'The Republicans used to be the party of Lincoln, vote for us in spite of what we're doing now and our present makeup and rhetoric.' That's just dishonest, if you asked me.

[Phil1]

'I don't disagree with the general thrust of what you're driving at, but there is no need to propagate the revisionist myth that the Civil War was fought to end slavery.'

I agree with that partially. The primary reason the North fought the war was to defeat succession. A secondary reason was slavery. There was a large anti slavery movement (abolitionists) in the north at the time. The reasons for succession of the south were also for more than slavery but slavery is what supported the almost 100% agrian south. Slavery was a huge issue for the south. Another primary issue was trade tariffs. Thus the mid-war Emancipation Proclimation. Slavery was one primary reason for succession on the South's side. Succession was the primary reason for war by the North. I am pretty sure there were no black confederate soldiers.

'Claiming the Democratic party is racist based on history is disingenuous at this point....' RML

No one is claiming the "Democratic Party is racist" History shows that is has been heavily racist up until recently. The usual lefty rabid rant is the Repubs are racist whereas history shows otherwise. Please see Jigoba's assinine rants on the KKKonservatives. The KKK was a Southern product, post Civil War.

Wiki:

'The first Klan was founded in 1865 by Tennessee veterans of the Confederate Army. Klan groups spread throughout the South. The Klan's purpose was to restore white supremacy in the aftermath of the American Civil War. The Klan resisted Reconstruction by assaulting, murdering and intimidating freedmen and white Republicans. In 1870 and 1871 the federal government passed the Force Acts, which were used to prosecute Klan crimes. Prosecution of Klan crimes and enforcement of the Force Acts suppressed Klan activity. In 1874 and later, however, newly organized and openly active paramilitary organizations such as the White League and the Red Shirts started a fresh round of violence aimed at suppressing Republican voting and running Republicans out of office. These contributed to white Democrats regaining political power in the......."

Here is a great read on Kennedy's 1964 Civil Rights Act and you will see the objections were Democrats. Not too long ago was it?

Civil Rights Act of 1964 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


History is fun and good to know so you can cut through the BS.

[Rupert]

Let's stop this "My Side"....."Your Side" bucket of Crapola.

The Democrats use people of color for the benefit of their white leaders and left wing aganda. They use them...plain and simple, and those of color are....pardon me, just too damn ignorant of being used to revolt, so they continue on with their support of the Democratic party, thinking it is to their benefit. Do they get any real benefit? Very little, mostly flashy tidbits thrown out for them without real substance that would make lasting improvements in their lives and the lives of their children.

The Republicans use white people, mostly of religious or evangelical backgrounds to the benefit of their old white Fat Cats holding the purse strings in Washington and Wall Street. They use the people of color to scare their Caucasian followers and to convince them they are the "way and the life". They convince the followers, with their own ignorance of being used, that if you give them more tax breaks and make them even richer than they already are, they will defend you against those "scary" people of color that are responsible for "ruining your America". And just like the people of color, accused of being blind to the truth, these white followers of the Republican party suck in all the BS like it is manna from Heaven.

So if you are in a race to declare your party as more dedicated to the rights of Americans...of any color.....spare me the BS. Your Senator or Congressman doesn't give a holy or unholy crap if you live or die, thrive or suffer,....just keep sending in that support, and taxes too. They have Grand Agendas, but almost none of them benefit you.
Regards!

[larryinlc]

Let's stop this "My Side"....."Your Side" bucket of Crapola.

The Democrats use people of color for the benefit of their white leaders and left wing aganda. They use them...plain and simple, and those of color are....pardon me, just too damn ignorant of being used to revolt, so they continue on with their support of the Democratic party, thinking it is to their benefit. Do they get any real benefit? Very little, mostly flashy tidbits thrown out for them without real substance that would make lasting improvements in their lives and the lives of their children.

The Republicans use white people, mostly of religious or evangelical backgrounds to the benefit of their old white Fat Cats holding the purse strings in Washington and Wall Street. They use the people of color to scare their Caucasian followers and to convince them they are the "way and the life". They convince the followers, with their own ignorance of being used, that if you give them more tax breaks and make them even richer than they already are, they will defend you against those "scary" people of color that are responsible for "ruining your America". And just like the people of color, accused of being blind to the truth, these white followers of the Republican party suck in all the BS like it is manna from Heaven.

So if you are in a race to declare your party as more dedicated to the rights of Americans...of any color.....spare me the BS. Your Senator or Congressman doesn't give a holy or unholy crap if you live or die, thrive or suffer,....just keep sending in that support, and taxes too. They have Grand Agendas, but almost none of them benefit you.
Regards!

You mean to tell me that politics is nothing more than a grand illusion? The ultimate graft? Who knew?

[Phil1]

'Your Senator or Congressman doesn't give a holy or unholy crap if you live or die, thrive or suffer,....just keep sending in that support, and taxes too. They have Grand Agendas, but almost none of them benefit you.' Rupert

Well said. An inconvienient truth for many.

I might temper it a bit with 'a few do care', definitly a minority. This speaks loudly for term limits. We are not supposed to be crowning minor political kings in the US. WTF needs brain dead Senators in Depends that have been in slot for 50 years. This is sick.

[Rupert]

I think he discovered the real problem in America......And while I can't agree with everything he said or believed, he got pretty damn close to matching my own visions. Sort of a cross between a left and right handed person, depending more on common sense from experience than on the dogma of some old tired "leaders" that have their own interest in mind above all else....sort of like we are ourselves......which is part of the problem, isn't it?
George Carlin: American Radical

[Ratmagiclady]

As for Rush,himself, I heard about this the other night. Hardly surprising, since the man's a drug-abusing professional apoplectic demagogue whose vision of the world would give a much thinner man a coronary if they really believed it in the first place...


But, really, all I could think is he's not an easy man to have a good thought for.

I understand the tests didn't find anything, though, according to news releases.

Ironic, that.

I wonder... not much,but I wonder... What he may have 'learned'from this.

[larryinlc]

As for Rush,himself, I heard about this the other night. Hardly surprising, since the man's a drug-abusing professional apoplectic demagogue whose vision of the world would give a much thinner man a coronary if they really believed it in the first place...


But, really, all I could think is he's not an easy man to have a good thought for.

I understand the tests didn't find anything, though, according to news releases.

Ironic, that.

I wonder... not much,but I wonder... What he may have 'learned'from this.

It's a good thing he didn't get sick in Canada. We'd all be waiting 6 months to find out if he was okay or not.

[Rupert]

It's a good thing he didn't get sick in Canada. We'd all be waiting 6 months to find out if he was okay or not.

I could live with that! So could most all of America.

[Parallax]

Let's stop this "My Side"....."Your Side" bucket of Crapola.

The Democrats use people of color for the benefit of their white leaders and left wing aganda. They use them...plain and simple, and those of color are....pardon me, just too damn ignorant of being used to revolt, so they continue on with their support of the Democratic party, thinking it is to their benefit. Do they get any real benefit? Very little, mostly flashy tidbits thrown out for them without real substance that would make lasting improvements in their lives and the lives of their children.

The Republicans use white people, mostly of religious or evangelical backgrounds to the benefit of their old white Fat Cats holding the purse strings in Washington and Wall Street. They use the people of color to scare their Caucasian followers and to convince them they are the "way and the life". They convince the followers, with their own ignorance of being used, that if you give them more tax breaks and make them even richer than they already are, they will defend you against those "scary" people of color that are responsible for "ruining your America". And just like the people of color, accused of being blind to the truth, these white followers of the Republican party suck in all the BS like it is manna from Heaven.

So if you are in a race to declare your party as more dedicated to the rights of Americans...of any color.....spare me the BS. Your Senator or Congressman doesn't give a holy or unholy crap if you live or die, thrive or suffer,....just keep sending in that support, and taxes too. They have Grand Agendas, but almost none of them benefit you.
Regards!

Rupert, you're scaring the crap out of me. I'm starting to agree with WAY too much of what you post la
tely!

[res3567]

Maybe they'll sew his mouth shut as part of the treatment.

Lol!!!!

Lol!!!!

Unfortunately he'll still have his arse to talk out of.