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01-05-2010, 09:53 AM   #16
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QuoteOriginally posted by ve2vfd Quote
So we should stop trying to educate them because the are not all dropping their syringes and joining your perfect little world instantly?

Sorry, I don't buy that... attempting to educate people is always worth a try.

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Agreed. It never hurts to try. To me though, there is another issue.
Drug use, like burglary, is illegal. If I knew that someone was going to burglarize the house next door by breaking the kitchen window and I, fearing for his safety, told him to use the basement window because it was always unlocked, I would be guilty of complicity. Why then are not the people who hand out these pamphlets, or the people who give them clean syringes considered accomplices before the fact and prosecuted. Just askin.

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I have an idea to avoid future waste, close (D) Murtha International Airport and give the future cash saved to NYC to educate kids further on avoiding drugs and not inhale while we open up legal pot shops. Actually $35K to NYC's budget is like a plumber loosing a sink faucet washer. It's really nothing. Like some kind soul pointed out, if it saves 2 people it's the right thing to do and well worth it. It's just humorus to me and a bit like proper gun cleaning instructions to serial killers.

Paradoxes and changing paradims are always fun

Proabortion Catholics and anti capital punishment works for me.

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somewhere about 10 years ago I read (I think the source was the UK) that addiction especially heroin was something that people eventually outgrew, providing they did not die from an overdose or other disease in the process.
The UK had established through study that education and controlled addiction was the lowest cost way out of the problem.
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Question. Since drugs are also responsible for a lot of the crime going around shouldn't we also buy the drugs for the addicts? So they wouldn't have to steal the money or kill someone for the money?

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Wouldn't that be smart!!! A drug users card and get your ship from a legal pharmacy!!!

Naw, in LA we are opening a few hundred pot shops under the medical herbs facade. I picked up a glossy surfing magazine on the coast a couple of weeks back and there was four placed ads for 'herb shops'. Certainly the publication is aimed at the elderly with glaucoma, the inferm and cancer patients. What a phoking phraud.

I think the Calif and Mexican drug lords would become worse than Al Quida here.

Lets do it.
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Al Capone is currently in hell telling the devil, "I could of been Secretary of the Treasury."

I think having a book on how to do heroin is not an appropriate education strategy. Why not write an instruction manual own how not to contaminate and apartment or blow it up cooking meth.
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QuoteOriginally posted by graphicgr8s Quote
Question. Since drugs are also responsible for a lot of the crime going around shouldn't we also buy the drugs for the addicts? So they wouldn't have to steal the money or kill someone for the money?
All you need to do is decriminalize drug use.
Take away the risks involved in importation, marketing and being an end user and the price will plummet.
And, at the same time, you'll put the "drug lords" out of business.
Also, by decriminalizing it, you would be keeping the artificial criminals (the suppliers) who get caught out of jail ($$$$$ savings) and would be freeing up resources to get the druggies off the drugs rather than just sweeping them into a corner and hoping they'll stay there.
Interestingly, while the present system doesn't work, the conservative right seems to think that more of what doesn't work will somehow magically start to work.
And you pick on Liberals for being stupid.
Oh, the irony of it all.

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QuoteOriginally posted by Wheatfield Quote
All you need to do is decriminalize drug use.
Take away the risks involved in importation, marketing and being an end user and the price will plummet.
And, at the same time, you'll put the "drug lords" out of business.
Also, by decriminalizing it, you would be keeping the artificial criminals (the suppliers) who get caught out of jail ($$$$$ savings) and would be freeing up resources to get the druggies off the drugs rather than just sweeping them into a corner and hoping they'll stay there.
Interestingly, while the present system doesn't work, the conservative right seems to think that more of what doesn't work will somehow magically start to work.
And you pick on Liberals for being stupid.
Oh, the irony of it all.
We could also decriminalize things like murder, bank robbery, incest, child porn. How's that?
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QuoteOriginally posted by graphicgr8s Quote
We could also decriminalize things like murder, bank robbery, incest, child porn. How's that?
Absolutely. It's the ultimate, lib solution to crime, dontchaknow. If nothing is illegal, there is no crime. Its really quite simple. Then we could turn loose all those prisoners that SMC is so worried about.
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Is Queen Victoria on the throne still?
The throne has been vacant since 1775!
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'While I agree totally that this is pure insanity, you guys are always pointing out left leaning absurdity......like you didn't have any of your own to share? Little things like having 14 Hijackers from Saudi create mass destruction.....'

Hey Rupert, are we a little sensitive this AM or something? Yuh gotta learn to laugh at this ship. I pointed out to you before The Bridge To Nowhere has cost nada. The (D) Murta International Airport has cost us many millions. (Google it) Use that example next time. Further I think the Saudis were the largest contributors to The Clinton Doublewide Liberary.

Here is the skinny on the NY Mayor, you can blame a sorta Repub;

Michael Rubens Bloomberg (born February 14, 1942) is the current Mayor of New York City. He was listed as the eighth-richest American, with a net worth of US $16 billion, in the Forbes 400 on September 17, 2008, making him the richest resident of New York City, ahead of David H. Koch. He is the founder and 88% owner of Bloomberg L.P., a financial software services company.[1][2]

A lifelong Democrat before seeking elective office, Bloomberg switched his registration in 2001 and ran for mayor as a Republican, winning the election that year and a second term in 2005. He was frequently mentioned as a possible independent candidate for the 2008 presidential election ............

Laugh at life dude.

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Perhaps you are right! I look at the cost of the Murtha International and say...what a disgrace to all Americans.......but you look a the invasion of Iraq, the 4500 dead young Americans, and Trillions in overall cost...and say "Well Done George".....as you laugh a little?
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QuoteOriginally posted by Wheatfield Quote
All you need to do is decriminalize drug use.
Take away the risks involved in importation, marketing and being an end user and the price will plummet.
And, at the same time, you'll put the "drug lords" out of business.
unless yoou give it away free, the drug lords will always be able to do it cheaper than the government.

if they can't control it now, what makes you think they will be able to stop the illegal trade afterwards
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We can agree on that Rupert. I don't want my cash spent over there either. Unfortunatly just about the whole of congress said lets go. So did a few foriegn countries. Jesus George couldn't do it alone you know. I can hear Hillary still saying there were WMDs there, so did Bubba. Even Kerry voted for it before he voted against it. Ditto the UN. But you are right GW was driving the bus. Only one problemo now is we can't change history. Well I stand corrected, some people can or at least try if it suits them. We are all in this ship hole together pal.

Obama said we are leaving Iraq soon, that problem will be handled I guess. If GW was still driving, he would be getting ready to pack it in too. So back to today and tomorrow, HTF do we get Murta's Airport to Nowhere closed?
It costs us a fortune for every paying passenger that flys out of that money pit.

Much capitalistic success in 2010.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Phil1 Quote
We can agree on that Rupert. I don't want my cash spent over there either. Unfortunatly just about the whole of congress said lets go. So did a few foriegn countries. Jesus George couldn't do it alone you know. I can hear Hillary still saying there were WMDs there, so did Bubba. Even Kerry voted for it before he voted against it. Ditto the UN. But you are right GW was driving the bus. Only one problemo now is we can't change history. Well I stand corrected, some people can or at least try if it suits them. We are all in this ship hole together pal.

Obama said we are leaving Iraq soon, that problem will be handled I guess. If GW was still driving, he would be getting ready to pack it in too. So back to today and tomorrow, HTF do we get Murta's Airport to Nowhere closed?
It costs us a fortune for every paying passenger that flys out of that money pit.

Much capitalistic success in 2010.
Let's not forget that Russia and France among a couple of others knew there were WMD's. Oh, wait they're the ones who sold it to Saddam.
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