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Rupert · 01-30-2010, 07:44 PM

Well, that seems like an honest answer George, I appreciate that. Neither party has much of a clean record when it comes to immigration. One wants the cheap labor...the other wants the votes. The immigrants, legal or otherwise, just want to eat and support their families...same as we do. I have never worked illegals, but I have worked for plenty of them....plumbing is a total myustery to most of them, and they have never beat me out of a dime or been anything less than 100% courteous and respectful, which I always return in kind. They may be illegal but they are no aliens....
Regards!

graphicgr8s · 01-30-2010, 07:56 PM

Originally posted by Rupert

Well, that seems like an honest answer George, I appreciate that. Neither party has much of a clean record when it comes to immigration. One wants the cheap labor...the other wants the votes. The immigrants, legal or otherwise, just want to eat and support their families...same as we do. I have never worked illegals, but I have worked for plenty of them....plumbing is a total myustery to most of them, and they have never beat me out of a dime or been anything less than 100% courteous and respectful, which I always return in kind. They may be illegal but they are no aliens....
Regards!

They ARE stealing from us. The employer generally lists them as independent contractors. That means that the individual is responsible for all taxes including 15% SS and Medicare. You think the illegals pay it? They are also lowering the standard for the pay rate in the jobs they do. So yes, they are stealing from all of us.

And the "cheap" labor is truly bipartisan.

Blue · 01-30-2010, 10:29 PM

Originally posted by Rupert

Well, that seems like an honest answer George, I appreciate that. Neither party has much of a clean record when it comes to immigration. One wants the cheap labor...the other wants the votes. The immigrants, legal or otherwise, just want to eat and support their families...same as we do. I have never worked illegals, but I have worked for plenty of them....plumbing is a total myustery to most of them, and they have never beat me out of a dime or been anything less than 100% courteous and respectful, which I always return in kind. They may be illegal but they are no aliens....
Regards!

Both sides want the cheap labor. Pelosi's husband uses them to pick grapes for their winery in Napa/Sonoma wine country. I guarantee that migrant farm workers, illegal or not, earn every penny of their pay.

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01-30-2010, 07:44 PM	#76
Rupert Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Texas Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 25,123	Well, that seems like an honest answer George, I appreciate that. Neither party has much of a clean record when it comes to immigration. One wants the cheap labor...the other wants the votes. The immigrants, legal or otherwise, just want to eat and support their families...same as we do. I have never worked illegals, but I have worked for plenty of them....plumbing is a total myustery to most of them, and they have never beat me out of a dime or been anything less than 100% courteous and respectful, which I always return in kind. They may be illegal but they are no aliens.... Regards!

01-30-2010, 07:56 PM	#77
graphicgr8s Guest	Originally posted by Rupert Well, that seems like an honest answer George, I appreciate that. Neither party has much of a clean record when it comes to immigration. One wants the cheap labor...the other wants the votes. The immigrants, legal or otherwise, just want to eat and support their families...same as we do. I have never worked illegals, but I have worked for plenty of them....plumbing is a total myustery to most of them, and they have never beat me out of a dime or been anything less than 100% courteous and respectful, which I always return in kind. They may be illegal but they are no aliens.... Regards! They ARE stealing from us. The employer generally lists them as independent contractors. That means that the individual is responsible for all taxes including 15% SS and Medicare. You think the illegals pay it? They are also lowering the standard for the pay rate in the jobs they do. So yes, they are stealing from all of us. And the "cheap" labor is truly bipartisan.

01-30-2010, 10:29 PM	#78
Blue Moderator Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Florida Hill Country Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 17,377	Originally posted by Rupert Well, that seems like an honest answer George, I appreciate that. Neither party has much of a clean record when it comes to immigration. One wants the cheap labor...the other wants the votes. The immigrants, legal or otherwise, just want to eat and support their families...same as we do. I have never worked illegals, but I have worked for plenty of them....plumbing is a total myustery to most of them, and they have never beat me out of a dime or been anything less than 100% courteous and respectful, which I always return in kind. They may be illegal but they are no aliens.... Regards! Both sides want the cheap labor. Pelosi's husband uses them to pick grapes for their winery in Napa/Sonoma wine country. I guarantee that migrant farm workers, illegal or not, earn every penny of their pay.

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