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areidjr · 03-11-2010, 10:50 AM

US Department of Education (ED) intends to purchase twenty-seven...

The Department of Education???? Can anyone explain why the Department of Education needs shotguns? Perhaps there's a good reason, but I just can't think of one. Perhaps it's necessary to have one when apprehending a kindergarten boy for sexually assaulting (kissing) a little girl.

SteveM · 03-11-2010, 10:54 AM

To shoot the kids that bring guns to school of course. NRA 101...more guns solves the problem...

areidjr · 03-11-2010, 11:01 AM

Originally posted by smc

To shoot the kids that bring guns to school of course. NRA 101...more guns solves the problem...

Nope! The US Department of Educations does not have employees resident in the schools.

wlank · 03-11-2010, 11:09 AM

Originally posted by areidjr

US Department of Education (ED) intends to purchase twenty-seven...

The Department of Education???? Can anyone explain why the Department of Education needs shotguns?

Perhaps things would have been different at Ohio State the other day if they had had a couple, maybe at Virginia Tech here a while back, oh yeah, there was also Columbine HS. Maybe they are worried about some nut case walking up to the front door with a loaded gun. But I guess you are right, couldn't happen at the Department of Education.

Parallax · 03-11-2010, 11:16 AM

Originally posted by wlank

Perhaps things would have been different at Ohio State the other day if they had had a couple, maybe at Virginia Tech here a while back, oh yeah, there was also Columbine HS. Maybe they are worried about some nut case walking up to the front door with a loaded gun. But I guess you are right, couldn't happen at the Department of Education.

You don't need guns to thwart those attacks, all you need is stricter gun laws.

shooz · 03-11-2010, 11:46 AM

Just plant A bombs in all the schools.
We have no crazy people here.....just criminals.
They break in? Blow the place up!
Kids don't matter.

RoxnDox · 03-11-2010, 11:48 AM

Originally posted by areidjr

US Department of Education (ED) intends to purchase twenty-seven...

The Department of Education???? Can anyone explain why the Department of Education needs shotguns? Perhaps there's a good reason, but I just can't think of one. Perhaps it's necessary to have one when apprehending a kindergarten boy for sexually assaulting (kissing) a little girl.

Since the link points to contracting info only, why not ask the person who's listed as the receiving party? For sure nobody HERE is going to know why these folks think they need 'em.

For the record, I doubt they really need these...

Jim

areidjr · 03-11-2010, 11:52 AM

Originally posted by RoxnDox

Since the link points to contracting info only, why not ask the person who's listed as the receiving party? For sure nobody HERE is going to know why these folks think they need 'em.

For the record, I doubt they really need these...

Jim

I know why they think they need them. I just wondered if anyone here could think of a good reason to arm our educators.

RoxnDox · 03-11-2010, 12:03 PM

Originally posted by areidjr

I know why they think they need them. I just wondered if anyone here could think of a good reason to arm our educators.

You know why? Please tell us then. Or do you have an opinion on why they think they need them?

Jim

Parallax · 03-11-2010, 12:08 PM

Its part of the "No Child Left Behind" program.

areidjr · 03-11-2010, 12:23 PM

Originally posted by RoxnDox

You know why? Please tell us then. Or do you have an opinion on why they think they need them?

Jim

I know why they think they need them. I personally can't imagine that they would actually need a shotgun for that purpose, but I guess local school boards and states cannot be trusted to properly handle the money that they dole out.

The shotguns are going to the Chicago office of the ED Inspector General. The IG is charged with investigating allegations of waste, fraud and abuse and, as such, has statutory law enforcement authority. That gives them the right to arm themselves in the performance of their duties.

But, I still don't understand the need for shotguns in order to investigate the recipients of federal education funding, who, for the most part, are local and state governments.

I still don't know why the really need short-barreled shotguns for this purpose.

Ratmagiclady · 03-11-2010, 12:31 PM

Originally posted by areidjr

I know why they think they need them. I personally can't imagine that they would actually need a shotgun for that purpose, but I guess local school boards and states cannot be trusted to properly handle the money that they dole out.

The shotguns are going to the Chicago office of the ED Inspector General. The IG is charged with investigating allegations of waste, fraud and abuse and, as such, has statutory law enforcement authority. That gives them the right to arm themselves in the performance of their duties.

But, I still don't understand the need for shotguns in order to investigate the recipients of federal education funding, who, for the most part, are local and state governments.

I still don't know why the really need short-barreled shotguns for this purpose.

Room entry? Lockbreaking shells? Nonlethal rounds?

People caught in crimes have a tendency to occasionally do some pretty irrational things, and, frankly, where there's embezzlement, there may be money-laundering, which may mean organized crime.

Parallax · 03-11-2010, 12:38 PM

Originally posted by Ratmagiclady

..........where there's embezzlement, there may be money-laundering, which may mean organized crime.

Organized Crime? In Chicago?

That could never be.

MRRiley · 03-11-2010, 12:38 PM

I thought most of you were ok with the government having all of the weapons.... besides it sounds like they already have an extensive arsenal including "armor"

areidjr · 03-11-2010, 12:48 PM

Originally posted by MRRiley

I thought most of you were ok with the government having all of the weapons.... besides it sounds like they already have an extensive arsenal including "armor"

I think that the Dapartment of Homeland Security will have no worries over a shortage of ammunition.

"Winchester Ammunition was recently awarded a contract by the Immigration, Customs and Enforcement (ICE) division of the Department of Homeland Security to supply a maximum of 200 million, 40 cal. rounds over the next five years."

03-11-2010, 10:50 AM	#1
areidjr Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Pittsburgh, Pa, USA Photos: Gallery Posts: 529	The US Dapartment of Education need 27 new short barrelled shotguns US Department of Education (ED) intends to purchase twenty-seven... The Department of Education???? Can anyone explain why the Department of Education needs shotguns? Perhaps there's a good reason, but I just can't think of one. Perhaps it's necessary to have one when apprehending a kindergarten boy for sexually assaulting (kissing) a little girl.

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03-11-2010, 10:54 AM	#2
SteveM Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Vancouver Island, BC, Canada Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,294	To shoot the kids that bring guns to school of course. NRA 101...more guns solves the problem...

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areidjr Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Pittsburgh, Pa, USA Photos: Gallery Posts: 529 Original Poster	Originally posted by smc To shoot the kids that bring guns to school of course. NRA 101...more guns solves the problem... Nope! The US Department of Educations does not have employees resident in the schools.

03-11-2010, 11:09 AM	#4
wlank Inactive Account Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Santa Teresa, New Mexico Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,130	Originally posted by areidjr US Department of Education (ED) intends to purchase twenty-seven... The Department of Education???? Can anyone explain why the Department of Education needs shotguns? Perhaps things would have been different at Ohio State the other day if they had had a couple, maybe at Virginia Tech here a while back, oh yeah, there was also Columbine HS. Maybe they are worried about some nut case walking up to the front door with a loaded gun. But I guess you are right, couldn't happen at the Department of Education.

03-11-2010, 11:16 AM	#5
Parallax Senior Moderator Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: South Dakota Photos: Gallery Posts: 19,333	Originally posted by wlank Perhaps things would have been different at Ohio State the other day if they had had a couple, maybe at Virginia Tech here a while back, oh yeah, there was also Columbine HS. Maybe they are worried about some nut case walking up to the front door with a loaded gun. But I guess you are right, couldn't happen at the Department of Education. You don't need guns to thwart those attacks, all you need is stricter gun laws.

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shooz Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Detroit Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,491	Just plant A bombs in all the schools. We have no crazy people here.....just criminals. They break in? Blow the place up! Kids don't matter.

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RoxnDox Pentaxian Join Date: May 2007 Location: Gig Harbor, Washington, USA, Terra Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 4,494	Originally posted by areidjr US Department of Education (ED) intends to purchase twenty-seven... The Department of Education???? Can anyone explain why the Department of Education needs shotguns? Perhaps there's a good reason, but I just can't think of one. Perhaps it's necessary to have one when apprehending a kindergarten boy for sexually assaulting (kissing) a little girl. Since the link points to contracting info only, why not ask the person who's listed as the receiving party? For sure nobody HERE is going to know why these folks think they need 'em. For the record, I doubt they really need these... Jim

03-11-2010, 11:52 AM	#8
areidjr Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Pittsburgh, Pa, USA Photos: Gallery Posts: 529 Original Poster	Originally posted by RoxnDox Since the link points to contracting info only, why not ask the person who's listed as the receiving party? For sure nobody HERE is going to know why these folks think they need 'em. For the record, I doubt they really need these... Jim I know why they think they need them. I just wondered if anyone here could think of a good reason to arm our educators.

03-11-2010, 12:03 PM	#9
RoxnDox Pentaxian Join Date: May 2007 Location: Gig Harbor, Washington, USA, Terra Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 4,494	Originally posted by areidjr I know why they think they need them. I just wondered if anyone here could think of a good reason to arm our educators. You know why? Please tell us then. Or do you have an opinion on why they think they need them? Jim

03-11-2010, 12:08 PM	#10
Parallax Senior Moderator Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: South Dakota Photos: Gallery Posts: 19,333	Its part of the "No Child Left Behind" program.

03-11-2010, 12:23 PM	#11
areidjr Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Pittsburgh, Pa, USA Photos: Gallery Posts: 529 Original Poster	Originally posted by RoxnDox You know why? Please tell us then. Or do you have an opinion on why they think they need them? Jim I know why they think they need them. I personally can't imagine that they would actually need a shotgun for that purpose, but I guess local school boards and states cannot be trusted to properly handle the money that they dole out. The shotguns are going to the Chicago office of the ED Inspector General. The IG is charged with investigating allegations of waste, fraud and abuse and, as such, has statutory law enforcement authority. That gives them the right to arm themselves in the performance of their duties. But, I still don't understand the need for shotguns in order to investigate the recipients of federal education funding, who, for the most part, are local and state governments. I still don't know why the really need short-barreled shotguns for this purpose.

03-11-2010, 12:31 PM	#12
Ratmagiclady Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: GA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 13,563	Originally posted by areidjr I know why they think they need them. I personally can't imagine that they would actually need a shotgun for that purpose, but I guess local school boards and states cannot be trusted to properly handle the money that they dole out. The shotguns are going to the Chicago office of the ED Inspector General. The IG is charged with investigating allegations of waste, fraud and abuse and, as such, has statutory law enforcement authority. That gives them the right to arm themselves in the performance of their duties. But, I still don't understand the need for shotguns in order to investigate the recipients of federal education funding, who, for the most part, are local and state governments. I still don't know why the really need short-barreled shotguns for this purpose. Room entry? Lockbreaking shells? Nonlethal rounds? People caught in crimes have a tendency to occasionally do some pretty irrational things, and, frankly, where there's embezzlement, there may be money-laundering, which may mean organized crime.

03-11-2010, 12:38 PM	#13
Parallax Senior Moderator Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: South Dakota Photos: Gallery Posts: 19,333	Originally posted by Ratmagiclady ..........where there's embezzlement, there may be money-laundering, which may mean organized crime. Organized Crime? In Chicago? That could never be.

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MRRiley Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Sterling, VA, USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 6,275	I thought most of you were ok with the government having all of the weapons.... besides it sounds like they already have an extensive arsenal including "armor"

03-11-2010, 12:48 PM	#15
areidjr Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Pittsburgh, Pa, USA Photos: Gallery Posts: 529 Original Poster	Originally posted by MRRiley I thought most of you were ok with the government having all of the weapons.... besides it sounds like they already have an extensive arsenal including "armor" I think that the Dapartment of Homeland Security will have no worries over a shortage of ammunition. "Winchester Ammunition was recently awarded a contract by the Immigration, Customs and Enforcement (ICE) division of the Department of Homeland Security to supply a maximum of 200 million, 40 cal. rounds over the next five years."

The US Dapartment of Education need 27 new short barrelled shotguns

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