Perfect score

tokyoso · 03-15-2010, 04:00 PM

Originally posted by GoremanX

Medical. It costs a lot to become a doctor. It costs even more when the loans were made in Canada to pay a US tuition back when the exchange rate was at $1.55/$1 (US/CAD), and now we're using US income to pay those Canadian loans after the exchange rate has swung back completely the other way. (currently practically $1/$1). It's like we took 33% of the Canadian loan and flushed it down the toilet, and now we have to pay it back anyways.

sorry to hear that...

couldn't she have gotten free med education in Canada?

icywarm · 03-15-2010, 04:03 PM

A true sign of intelligence would have been to score the perfect 2400 and then spell his name wrong... make a statement!

GoremanX · 03-15-2010, 04:06 PM

Originally posted by tokyoso

sorry to hear that...

couldn't she have gotten free med education in Canada?

Doesn't work that way. He have free health care, not free university education.

There are only 2 optometry schools in all of Canada, one English and one French. Going to optometry school in Canada meant she couldn't be licensed to work in the US without jumping through tons of hoops, and we planned on her working in the US since optometrists there tend to make lots more money. So she went to IU instead, and now she can work anywhere in the US and Canada (by taking the Cannadian board exams).

But it was at one hell of a cost...

tokyoso · 03-15-2010, 04:08 PM

Originally posted by GoremanX

Doesn't work that way. He have free health care, not free university education.

There are only 2 optometry schools in all of Canada, one English and one French. Going to optometry school in Canada meant she couldn't be licensed to work in the US without jumping through tons of hoops, and we planned on her working in the US since optometrists there tend to make lots more money. So she went to IU instead, and now she can work anywhere in the US and Canada (by taking the Cannadian board exams).

But it was at one hell of a cost...

well that sucks. i had thought everything is free up there.

GoremanX · 03-15-2010, 04:16 PM

Originally posted by tokyoso

well that sucks. i had thought everything is free up there.

Sure! Most of our health care is free, as long as you don't mind waiting for hours when you have an emergency, or driving ridiculous distances just to find a doctor who's allowed to accept new patients. Of course, depending on the province, this may not include dentists, optometrists, podiatrists and a slew of other specialists.

School is free right up to grade 12/13 (11/12 + Cegep in Quebec). But anything beyond that costs pretty much the same here as it does in he US. My wife did 4 years at IU in Bloomington, IN, but she also did 4 years (undergrad) at the University of Waterloo in Waterloo, Ontario prior to that.

As for the rest of the free stuff, we're getting into political stuff that is now forbidden in this sub-forum

Das Boot · 03-15-2010, 07:45 PM

I had a friend in HS score a perfect 1600 on the SAT. His father was a first generation US citizen. Matthew got accepted to Princeton and even with his scholarship, his father and mother had to take on extra jobs to put him through finacially. I respected that a lot. Whenever I had the chance to help them out, I did.

reeftool · 03-16-2010, 09:03 AM

Unfortunately, a student is more likely to get a full scholarship from sports than academics and much of that will depend on the school. My daughter was a top notch student and nationally ranked rower in high school. She's getting a little over half the expensives covered so it's loans for the rest. Hockey players get a free ride at her school.

Parallax · 03-16-2010, 10:36 AM

Originally posted by GoremanX

What does it mean when someone scores perfect on an abstract, meaningless test? That he's perfectly meaningless?

Well, it means in this case that he or she is either exceptionally intelligent or was educated outside of the U.S. public school system, or both.

user440 · 03-16-2010, 10:42 AM

Originally posted by Parallax

Well, it means in this case that he or she is either exceptionally intelligent or was educated outside of the U.S. public school system, or both.

I'll take wild unfounded assumptions for $200 Alex....

Mike Cash · 03-16-2010, 10:55 AM

Originally posted by Parallax

Well, it means in this case that he or she is either exceptionally intelligent or was educated outside of the U.S. public school system, or both.

The young man is Vikash Sinha, a student at Vanguard High School. The school is part of the Marion County public school system.

Parallax · 03-16-2010, 11:38 AM

Originally posted by user440

I'll take wild unfounded assumptions for $200 Alex....

Originally posted by Mike Cash

The young man is Vikash Sinha, a student at Vanguard High School. The school is part of the Marion County public school system.

O.K., so he is indeed exceptionally intelligent; or at least extremely well self-motivated.

user440 · 03-16-2010, 11:50 AM

I'm not going to take this OT, but that is truly spoken like someone that is a bit ignorant technically on public vs. private schools curriculum and education. I am hardly saying that all public schools are better than all private schools, but one needs to understand the intricacies of the curriculum and the quality and qualifications of the teaching staff as well as how these schools work locally before one can say that a school of this type is better than the next.

GoremanX · 03-16-2010, 12:20 PM

Originally posted by user440

I'm not going to take this OT, but that is truly spoken like someone that is a bit ignorant technically on public vs. private schools curriculum and education. I am hardly saying that all public schools are better than all private schools, but one needs to understand the intricacies of the curriculum and the quality and qualifications of the teaching staff as well as how these schools work locally before one can say that a school of this type is better than the next.

blablabla

I don't know about US schools, but I went to private school from grades 1 to 3. When my mom could no longer afford it, I was switched to public school for grades 4-6. It took 3 years for the public school curriculum to catch up to where I had been in grade 3. In the meantime, I got so horribly bored with school (because I was just repeating crap I'd learned already), I ended up setting a school record for number of absences in a school year... all of it skipping. And I still finished at the top of my class every year.

The public school curriculum was miserable and pathetic. Years later, I learned that the school commission for my region was regarded as one of the best in the province... that scares me.

user440 · 03-16-2010, 12:27 PM

Originally posted by GoremanX

blablabla

I don't know about US schools, but I went to private school from grades 1 to 3. When my mom could no longer afford it, I was switched to public school for grades 4-6. It took 3 years for the public school curriculum to catch up to where I had been in grade 3. In the meantime, I got so horribly bored with school (because I was just repeating crap I'd learned already), I ended up setting a school record for number of absences in a school year... all of it skipping. And I still finished at the top of my class every year.

The public school curriculum was miserable and pathetic. Years later, I learned that the school commission for my region was regarded as one of the best in the province... that scares me.

Your single local data point is duly noted.

GoremanX · 03-16-2010, 12:41 PM

Originally posted by user440

Your single local data point is duly noted.

it better be, because it's the only one that matters.

Also, I actually went to TWO public schools (one in grades 4-5, one in grade 6). The first was French-language, the other was English. Both sucked equally.

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03-15-2010, 04:00 PM	#16
tokyoso Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Tokyo Photos: Albums Posts: 723	Originally posted by GoremanX Medical. It costs a lot to become a doctor. It costs even more when the loans were made in Canada to pay a US tuition back when the exchange rate was at $1.55/$1 (US/CAD), and now we're using US income to pay those Canadian loans after the exchange rate has swung back completely the other way. (currently practically $1/$1). It's like we took 33% of the Canadian loan and flushed it down the toilet, and now we have to pay it back anyways. sorry to hear that... couldn't she have gotten free med education in Canada?

03-15-2010, 04:03 PM	#17
icywarm Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Saskatchewan Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,278	A true sign of intelligence would have been to score the perfect 2400 and then spell his name wrong... make a statement!

03-15-2010, 04:06 PM	#18
GoremanX Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Georgia, VT Photos: Albums Posts: 1,657	Originally posted by tokyoso sorry to hear that... couldn't she have gotten free med education in Canada? Doesn't work that way. He have free health care, not free university education. There are only 2 optometry schools in all of Canada, one English and one French. Going to optometry school in Canada meant she couldn't be licensed to work in the US without jumping through tons of hoops, and we planned on her working in the US since optometrists there tend to make lots more money. So she went to IU instead, and now she can work anywhere in the US and Canada (by taking the Cannadian board exams). But it was at one hell of a cost...

03-15-2010, 04:08 PM	#19
tokyoso Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Tokyo Photos: Albums Posts: 723	Originally posted by GoremanX Doesn't work that way. He have free health care, not free university education. There are only 2 optometry schools in all of Canada, one English and one French. Going to optometry school in Canada meant she couldn't be licensed to work in the US without jumping through tons of hoops, and we planned on her working in the US since optometrists there tend to make lots more money. So she went to IU instead, and now she can work anywhere in the US and Canada (by taking the Cannadian board exams). But it was at one hell of a cost... well that sucks. i had thought everything is free up there.

03-15-2010, 04:16 PM	#20
GoremanX Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Georgia, VT Photos: Albums Posts: 1,657	Originally posted by tokyoso well that sucks. i had thought everything is free up there. Sure! Most of our health care is free, as long as you don't mind waiting for hours when you have an emergency, or driving ridiculous distances just to find a doctor who's allowed to accept new patients. Of course, depending on the province, this may not include dentists, optometrists, podiatrists and a slew of other specialists. School is free right up to grade 12/13 (11/12 + Cegep in Quebec). But anything beyond that costs pretty much the same here as it does in he US. My wife did 4 years at IU in Bloomington, IN, but she also did 4 years (undergrad) at the University of Waterloo in Waterloo, Ontario prior to that. As for the rest of the free stuff, we're getting into political stuff that is now forbidden in this sub-forum

03-15-2010, 07:45 PM	#21
Das Boot Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Sparkle City, South Cackalacky Photos: Gallery Posts: 689	I had a friend in HS score a perfect 1600 on the SAT. His father was a first generation US citizen. Matthew got accepted to Princeton and even with his scholarship, his father and mother had to take on extra jobs to put him through finacially. I respected that a lot. Whenever I had the chance to help them out, I did.

03-16-2010, 09:03 AM	#22
reeftool Pentaxian Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Upstate New York Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 9,552	Unfortunately, a student is more likely to get a full scholarship from sports than academics and much of that will depend on the school. My daughter was a top notch student and nationally ranked rower in high school. She's getting a little over half the expensives covered so it's loans for the rest. Hockey players get a free ride at her school.

03-16-2010, 10:36 AM	#23
Parallax Senior Moderator Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: South Dakota Photos: Gallery Posts: 19,332	Originally posted by GoremanX What does it mean when someone scores perfect on an abstract, meaningless test? That he's perfectly meaningless? Well, it means in this case that he or she is either exceptionally intelligent or was educated outside of the U.S. public school system, or both.

03-16-2010, 10:42 AM	#24
user440 Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: St. Louis, MO Photos: Gallery Posts: 349	Originally posted by Parallax Well, it means in this case that he or she is either exceptionally intelligent or was educated outside of the U.S. public school system, or both. I'll take wild unfounded assumptions for $200 Alex....

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Mike Cash Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Japan Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,950	Originally posted by Parallax Well, it means in this case that he or she is either exceptionally intelligent or was educated outside of the U.S. public school system, or both. The young man is Vikash Sinha, a student at Vanguard High School. The school is part of the Marion County public school system.

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03-16-2010, 11:38 AM	#26
Parallax Senior Moderator Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: South Dakota Photos: Gallery Posts: 19,332	Originally posted by user440 I'll take wild unfounded assumptions for $200 Alex.... Originally posted by Mike Cash The young man is Vikash Sinha, a student at Vanguard High School. The school is part of the Marion County public school system. O.K., so he is indeed exceptionally intelligent; or at least extremely well self-motivated.

03-16-2010, 11:50 AM	#27
user440 Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: St. Louis, MO Photos: Gallery Posts: 349	I'm not going to take this OT, but that is truly spoken like someone that is a bit ignorant technically on public vs. private schools curriculum and education. I am hardly saying that all public schools are better than all private schools, but one needs to understand the intricacies of the curriculum and the quality and qualifications of the teaching staff as well as how these schools work locally before one can say that a school of this type is better than the next.

03-16-2010, 12:20 PM	#28
GoremanX Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Georgia, VT Photos: Albums Posts: 1,657	Originally posted by user440 I'm not going to take this OT, but that is truly spoken like someone that is a bit ignorant technically on public vs. private schools curriculum and education. I am hardly saying that all public schools are better than all private schools, but one needs to understand the intricacies of the curriculum and the quality and qualifications of the teaching staff as well as how these schools work locally before one can say that a school of this type is better than the next. blablabla I don't know about US schools, but I went to private school from grades 1 to 3. When my mom could no longer afford it, I was switched to public school for grades 4-6. It took 3 years for the public school curriculum to catch up to where I had been in grade 3. In the meantime, I got so horribly bored with school (because I was just repeating crap I'd learned already), I ended up setting a school record for number of absences in a school year... all of it skipping. And I still finished at the top of my class every year. The public school curriculum was miserable and pathetic. Years later, I learned that the school commission for my region was regarded as one of the best in the province... that scares me.

03-16-2010, 12:27 PM	#29
user440 Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: St. Louis, MO Photos: Gallery Posts: 349	Originally posted by GoremanX blablabla I don't know about US schools, but I went to private school from grades 1 to 3. When my mom could no longer afford it, I was switched to public school for grades 4-6. It took 3 years for the public school curriculum to catch up to where I had been in grade 3. In the meantime, I got so horribly bored with school (because I was just repeating crap I'd learned already), I ended up setting a school record for number of absences in a school year... all of it skipping. And I still finished at the top of my class every year. The public school curriculum was miserable and pathetic. Years later, I learned that the school commission for my region was regarded as one of the best in the province... that scares me. Your single local data point is duly noted.

03-16-2010, 12:41 PM	#30
GoremanX Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Georgia, VT Photos: Albums Posts: 1,657	Originally posted by user440 Your single local data point is duly noted. it better be, because it's the only one that matters. Also, I actually went to TWO public schools (one in grades 4-5, one in grade 6). The first was French-language, the other was English. Both sucked equally.