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**ChrisPlatt** · 03-26-2010, 04:55 PM

Who else got this email from the PF Webmaster yesterday?:

"Today we are happy to announce the launch of a new forum to complement PentaxForums: CanikonForums.com - Canon and Nikon Forum. (etc)..."

At first I thought it might be an April Fool's Day prank, but then I checked my calendar, and it was only March 26th.

I think this may be the beginning of the end of PentaxForums.

What do you think?

Chris

TOUGEFC · 03-26-2010, 05:06 PM

Well thats a forum for nikon and canon.
As long as people still shoot pentax, this forum will stay strong

PeteyJ · 03-26-2010, 05:23 PM

There are enough people on here who shoot Nikon or Canon that a separate forum is a decent idea. The fact that it's a friendly forum and easy to use will attract Canikon users who aren't members of PF, so it's not a bad idea at all.

Blue · 03-26-2010, 06:43 PM

Originally posted by ChrisPlatt

Who else got this email from the PF Webmaster yesterday?:

"Today we are happy to announce the launch of a new forum to complement PentaxForums: CanikonForums.com - Canon and Nikon Forum. (etc)..."

At first I thought it might be an April Fool's Day prank, but then I checked my calendar, and it was only March 26th.

I think this may be the beginning of the end of PentaxForums.

What do you think?

Chris

I don't think so. There are people that talk about those in the offbrand forum. The majority of the new site will eventually be made of CaNikon users. One of my film macro rigs is Canon platform. That said, I'm not switching over anytime soon, and never 100%.

Adam · 03-26-2010, 06:48 PM

Why would you think that a new site that covers everything that this one does not would be hurtful to us? Maybe to the off-brand section, but that's about it! This forum will continue to remain at the top of my list as far as priorities go.

Not Registered · 03-26-2010, 06:51 PM

Originally posted by Adam

This forum will continue to remain at the top of my list as far as priorities go.

Right next to the research for a good poo cleaner that eliminates any trace of shit and not only wipe it.

little laker · 03-26-2010, 10:09 PM

Although I don't own a Canon or a Nikon, and never have I do shoot both systems from time to time.
So I did sign up.

I don't think that I'll spend much time over there, however it's nice to know that the resource is out there if I need some info.

falconeye · 03-27-2010, 03:44 AM

FWIW, I don't like the new forum.

Looks like a cool idea at first sight. But I fear it really isn't.

No Canon or Nikon would participate in a Canikon forum (would we participate in a PenOly forum -- I mean with such agreat forum like pentaxforums.com already existing?). Esp. as Canikon is a term used by people not liking Canon or Nikon too much.

So, this new forum is one against something, not for something.

A brand-independend forum would be names like luminous landscape, dpreview etc., not canikon.

So, this must be the worst new forum launch of the year. Sorry to say so.

Adam, please focus on a thing you do very well (pentaxforums.com) or create a new forum with a positive interest.

SteveM · 03-27-2010, 05:29 AM

Originally posted by falconeye

FWIW, I don't like the new forum.

Looks like a cool idea at first sight. But I fear it really isn't.

No Canon or Nikon would participate in a Canikon forum (would we participate in a PenOly forum -- I mean with such agreat forum like pentaxforums.com already existing?). Esp. as Canikon is a term used by people not liking Canon or Nikon too much.

So, this new forum is one against something, not for something.

I was wondering about this as well, but setting up one new forum is already a huge undertaking, setting up two?

I gave it some more thought and Canikon should be OK. We have been using it within the Pentax forum as a label for "the other guys". Usually it has been used within a comparison between Pentax cameras and their users and Canon/Nikon. Within the context of a Pentax forum, most of those statements are going to be pro Pentax. When I have used the term, it hasn't been used in a derogatory sense.

Perhaps I am wrong, but I don't believe that Canikon would be used in the same context outside of a pro-Pentax setting. We also have quite a bit of Canon / Nikon traffic within the forum now. I would prefer to see Pentax content on this site and have somewhere else to see the Canon / Nikon content.

There is also another reason I think the new site will do well. I have a DPR account but rarely use it. IMO, the base that DPR uses to drive forum content seems very "1980s". I don't enjoy the flow and I think there are a number of people out there that would move from DRP if there was an alternative.

B Grace · 03-27-2010, 07:25 AM

Well, first, it's a free country so a person can start just about any forum he or she likes. For that, bravo!

As for the term CaNikon, I guess it's okay. I shoot both Pentax and Nikon gear plus I have an old Stylus Epic and several Kodak collectibles so I'd be more interested PeNikOlyDak but that's me.

The one question though is how many Nikon users such as I will be interested in reading about Canon gear. The routine switchers that make the gear world turn may be interested but the rest of us probably won't. Will the Ca-Nikon forum offer information that is more adroit and compelling than Nikon Cafe or will it consist of light tan vs. charcoal as best color for lenses discussions? It's a tough hill to climb.

Blue · 03-27-2010, 08:03 AM

How many Canon or Nikon specific forums are there out there that doesn't charge a membership fee?

falconeye · 03-27-2010, 10:09 AM

Originally posted by B Grace

Well, first, it's a free country so a person can start just about any forum he or she likes. For that, bravo!

In order not to be misunderstood ...

I have no problem with Adam launching his new forum and I wish him good luck.

It's a free country indeed and so I only took the liberty to express my initial emotional feeling.

However, my initial reaction may not have been adequate (still, initial reactions do matter).

E.g., I notice that there already is a similiar forum in my country:

canikon - canikon Redaktion

johnmflores · 03-27-2010, 12:38 PM

I don't get all the resistance to the idea. Why can't Adam try to recreate the success he had here somewhere else? What right do we have to question his other projects?

After all that he's done here, he deserves a "Good Luck" much more than a "Why?"

pingflood · 03-27-2010, 02:48 PM

Originally posted by Blue

How many Canon or Nikon specific forums are there out there that doesn't charge a membership fee?

FM and POTN for one... FM charges if you want to post in buy/sell but it's like $10/year and well worth it. The rest of the forum is free.

Parallax · 03-28-2010, 07:24 AM

I can't think that it could hurt Pentaxforums. The members here that use multiple systems will participate on the other forums. It is likely that there are poor misguided souls out there that use Canon or Nikon as their primary system that also have Pentax. Those folks may be unaware of our form and the crossover from here may draw new members that we would not have otherwise gained.

03-26-2010, 04:55 PM	#1
ChrisPlatt Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Rockaway Beach NYC Posts: 7,697	Questionable move by PentaxForums Who else got this email from the PF Webmaster yesterday?: "Today we are happy to announce the launch of a new forum to complement PentaxForums: CanikonForums.com - Canon and Nikon Forum. (etc)..." At first I thought it might be an April Fool's Day prank, but then I checked my calendar, and it was only March 26th. I think this may be the beginning of the end of PentaxForums. What do you think? Chris

03-26-2010, 06:48 PM	#5
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03-26-2010, 05:06 PM	#2
TOUGEFC Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Brisbane Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,561	Well thats a forum for nikon and canon. As long as people still shoot pentax, this forum will stay strong

03-26-2010, 05:23 PM	#3
PeteyJ Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Chicago/Cleveland Posts: 176	There are enough people on here who shoot Nikon or Canon that a separate forum is a decent idea. The fact that it's a friendly forum and easy to use will attract Canikon users who aren't members of PF, so it's not a bad idea at all.

03-26-2010, 06:43 PM	#4
Blue Moderator Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Florida Hill Country Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 17,377	Originally posted by ChrisPlatt Who else got this email from the PF Webmaster yesterday?: "Today we are happy to announce the launch of a new forum to complement PentaxForums: CanikonForums.com - Canon and Nikon Forum. (etc)..." At first I thought it might be an April Fool's Day prank, but then I checked my calendar, and it was only March 26th. I think this may be the beginning of the end of PentaxForums. What do you think? Chris I don't think so. There are people that talk about those in the offbrand forum. The majority of the new site will eventually be made of CaNikon users. One of my film macro rigs is Canon platform. That said, I'm not switching over anytime soon, and never 100%.

03-26-2010, 06:51 PM	#6
Not Registered Guest	Originally posted by Adam This forum will continue to remain at the top of my list as far as priorities go. Right next to the research for a good poo cleaner that eliminates any trace of shit and not only wipe it.

03-26-2010, 10:09 PM	#7
little laker Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Photos: Gallery Posts: 5,697	Although I don't own a Canon or a Nikon, and never have I do shoot both systems from time to time. So I did sign up. I don't think that I'll spend much time over there, however it's nice to know that the resource is out there if I need some info.

03-27-2010, 03:44 AM	#8
falconeye Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Munich, Alps, Germany Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,871	FWIW, I don't like the new forum. Looks like a cool idea at first sight. But I fear it really isn't. No Canon or Nikon would participate in a Canikon forum (would we participate in a PenOly forum -- I mean with such agreat forum like pentaxforums.com already existing?). Esp. as Canikon is a term used by people not liking Canon or Nikon too much. So, this new forum is one against something, not for something. A brand-independend forum would be names like luminous landscape, dpreview etc., not canikon. So, this must be the worst new forum launch of the year. Sorry to say so. Adam, please focus on a thing you do very well (pentaxforums.com) or create a new forum with a positive interest.

03-27-2010, 05:29 AM	#9
SteveM Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Vancouver Island, BC, Canada Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,294	Originally posted by falconeye FWIW, I don't like the new forum. Looks like a cool idea at first sight. But I fear it really isn't. No Canon or Nikon would participate in a Canikon forum (would we participate in a PenOly forum -- I mean with such agreat forum like pentaxforums.com already existing?). Esp. as Canikon is a term used by people not liking Canon or Nikon too much. So, this new forum is one against something, not for something. I was wondering about this as well, but setting up one new forum is already a huge undertaking, setting up two? I gave it some more thought and Canikon should be OK. We have been using it within the Pentax forum as a label for "the other guys". Usually it has been used within a comparison between Pentax cameras and their users and Canon/Nikon. Within the context of a Pentax forum, most of those statements are going to be pro Pentax. When I have used the term, it hasn't been used in a derogatory sense. Perhaps I am wrong, but I don't believe that Canikon would be used in the same context outside of a pro-Pentax setting. We also have quite a bit of Canon / Nikon traffic within the forum now. I would prefer to see Pentax content on this site and have somewhere else to see the Canon / Nikon content. There is also another reason I think the new site will do well. I have a DPR account but rarely use it. IMO, the base that DPR uses to drive forum content seems very "1980s". I don't enjoy the flow and I think there are a number of people out there that would move from DRP if there was an alternative.

03-27-2010, 07:25 AM	#10
B Grace Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Western Missouri Posts: 429	Well, first, it's a free country so a person can start just about any forum he or she likes. For that, bravo! As for the term CaNikon, I guess it's okay. I shoot both Pentax and Nikon gear plus I have an old Stylus Epic and several Kodak collectibles so I'd be more interested PeNikOlyDak but that's me. The one question though is how many Nikon users such as I will be interested in reading about Canon gear. The routine switchers that make the gear world turn may be interested but the rest of us probably won't. Will the Ca-Nikon forum offer information that is more adroit and compelling than Nikon Cafe or will it consist of light tan vs. charcoal as best color for lenses discussions? It's a tough hill to climb.

03-27-2010, 08:03 AM	#11
Blue Moderator Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Florida Hill Country Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 17,377	How many Canon or Nikon specific forums are there out there that doesn't charge a membership fee?

03-27-2010, 10:09 AM	#12
falconeye Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Munich, Alps, Germany Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,871	Originally posted by B Grace Well, first, it's a free country so a person can start just about any forum he or she likes. For that, bravo! In order not to be misunderstood ... I have no problem with Adam launching his new forum and I wish him good luck. It's a free country indeed and so I only took the liberty to express my initial emotional feeling. However, my initial reaction may not have been adequate (still, initial reactions do matter). E.g., I notice that there already is a similiar forum in my country: canikon - canikon Redaktion

03-27-2010, 12:38 PM	#13
johnmflores Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Somerville, NJ Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 5,361	I don't get all the resistance to the idea. Why can't Adam try to recreate the success he had here somewhere else? What right do we have to question his other projects? After all that he's done here, he deserves a "Good Luck" much more than a "Why?"

03-27-2010, 02:48 PM	#14
pingflood Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Borås, Sweden Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,169	Originally posted by Blue How many Canon or Nikon specific forums are there out there that doesn't charge a membership fee? FM and POTN for one... FM charges if you want to post in buy/sell but it's like $10/year and well worth it. The rest of the forum is free.

03-28-2010, 07:24 AM	#15
Parallax Senior Moderator Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: South Dakota Photos: Gallery Posts: 19,333	I can't think that it could hurt Pentaxforums. The members here that use multiple systems will participate on the other forums. It is likely that there are poor misguided souls out there that use Canon or Nikon as their primary system that also have Pentax. Those folks may be unaware of our form and the crossover from here may draw new members that we would not have otherwise gained.

Questionable move by PentaxForums

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