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Ira · 04-10-2010, 07:42 AM

(I didn't know where to put this--Politics or here--so I have a 50% chance of being right.)

I just want to extend my best wishes, condolences, and support after this tragedy, regardless of your political views. Politics is one thing, but the senseless loss of life is another.

I hope that somehow, this horrific event makes the Polish people even stronger, and helps you all come together for the betterment of every Polish citizen.

Last edited by Ira; 04-10-2010 at 07:56 AM.

Ira · 04-10-2010, 07:45 AM

One other thing:

I'll never forget the support and good wishes that so many Americans received after 9/11 from online folks from all over the world.

It really helped, and I hope that some of our posts here do the same thing.

little laker · 04-10-2010, 07:45 AM

Ira,
For those of us that just got up and haven't heard the news yet. What happened?

Ira · 04-10-2010, 07:53 AM

Originally posted by little laker

Ira,
For those of us that just got up and haven't heard the news yet. What happened?

The president, his wife, and the top members of the government were killed in a plane crash.

little laker · 04-10-2010, 07:56 AM

Not fun, I'm sorry to hear that.
My condolences to all those that it effects.

Parallax · 04-10-2010, 07:57 AM

Sad day.

Ira, where did your avatar go?

Ira · 04-10-2010, 08:02 AM

Originally posted by Parallax

Sad day.

Ira, where did your avatar go?

I see it on my computer. You don't?

creampuff · 04-10-2010, 08:44 AM

Such a national tragedy. But the sad part is that the incident has a sad parallel to the death in 1943 of wartime Polish Prime Minister General Władysław Sikorski who also perished in a plane crash.

breethagh · 04-10-2010, 09:20 AM

Lech Kaczynski with Wife and other 94 politicians was going to Katyn Masacre mourning ceremony.
Sad thing is that Katyń Masacre where 14,000 members of the Polish Armed Forces and professional classes who were executed in Katyn Forest 1940.
Katyn masacre

lithos · 04-10-2010, 09:22 AM

My god.

Condolences, Poles.

(Let's keep this thread apolitical.)

EDIT: List of Polish government figures killed:

National leader:
President Lech Kaczynski and wife Maria

Other politicians:
Wladyslaw Stasiak chief of the president's chancellery; Aleksander Szczyglo chief of the National Security Office; Slawomir Skrzypek National Bank of Poland chairman;
Jerzy Szmajdzinski deputy speaker of the lower house; Andrzej Kremer Foreign Ministry's undersecretary of state; Stanislaw Komorowski deputy minister of national defence; Przemyslaw Gosiewski Law and Justice party deputy chair;

Military chief:
Franciszek Gagor chief of the General Staff

Cultural figures:
Andrzej Przewoznik head of Poland's Council for the Protection of Struggle and Martyrdom Sites; Tomasz Merta chief historical conservator

That's a big blow.

matth · 04-10-2010, 10:04 AM

Thank you.. This a really difficult time for us. Such a lost..

Ratmagiclady · 04-10-2010, 10:09 AM

Originally posted by little laker

Ira,
For those of us that just got up and haven't heard the news yet. What happened?

It seems much of the story was a little slow to get out, at least over here. (There was talk of a bad plane crash for a while before they started saying who was on it.)

My condolences, too. I can't say I know much about Poland's politics, but it does sound like a hard day for it to happen, too.

Adam · 04-10-2010, 10:16 AM

Thanks for the post- the whole country is pretty much grieving and in a state of shock...what a tragedy.

justinr · 04-10-2010, 10:16 AM

It is indeed a tragedy and our sympathies to the bereaved but the question must be asked , why were all these people on the same plane?

matth · 04-10-2010, 10:26 AM

justinr, we have no idea..

04-10-2010, 07:42 AM	#1
Ira Inactive Account Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Coral Springs, FL Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 5,216	Our Sympathies To Our Polish Members (I didn't know where to put this--Politics or here--so I have a 50% chance of being right.) I just want to extend my best wishes, condolences, and support after this tragedy, regardless of your political views. Politics is one thing, but the senseless loss of life is another. I hope that somehow, this horrific event makes the Polish people even stronger, and helps you all come together for the betterment of every Polish citizen. Last edited by Ira; 04-10-2010 at 07:56 AM.

04-10-2010, 09:22 AM	#10
lithos Inactive Account Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Brisbane, QLD, AUS Posts: 3,261	My god. Condolences, Poles. (Let's keep this thread apolitical.) EDIT: List of Polish government figures killed: National leader: President Lech Kaczynski and wife Maria Other politicians: Wladyslaw Stasiak chief of the president's chancellery; Aleksander Szczyglo chief of the National Security Office; Slawomir Skrzypek National Bank of Poland chairman; Jerzy Szmajdzinski deputy speaker of the lower house; Andrzej Kremer Foreign Ministry's undersecretary of state; Stanislaw Komorowski deputy minister of national defence; Przemyslaw Gosiewski Law and Justice party deputy chair; Military chief: Franciszek Gagor chief of the General Staff Cultural figures: Andrzej Przewoznik head of Poland's Council for the Protection of Struggle and Martyrdom Sites; Tomasz Merta chief historical conservator That's a big blow. Last edited by lithos; 04-10-2010 at 09:30 AM.

04-10-2010, 10:16 AM	#13
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04-10-2010, 07:45 AM	#2
Ira Inactive Account Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Coral Springs, FL Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 5,216 Original Poster	One other thing: I'll never forget the support and good wishes that so many Americans received after 9/11 from online folks from all over the world. It really helped, and I hope that some of our posts here do the same thing.

04-10-2010, 07:45 AM	#3
little laker Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Photos: Gallery Posts: 5,697	Ira, For those of us that just got up and haven't heard the news yet. What happened?

04-10-2010, 07:53 AM	#4
Ira Inactive Account Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Coral Springs, FL Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 5,216 Original Poster	Originally posted by little laker Ira, For those of us that just got up and haven't heard the news yet. What happened? The president, his wife, and the top members of the government were killed in a plane crash.

04-10-2010, 07:56 AM	#5
little laker Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Photos: Gallery Posts: 5,697	Not fun, I'm sorry to hear that. My condolences to all those that it effects.

04-10-2010, 07:57 AM	#6
Parallax Senior Moderator Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: South Dakota Photos: Gallery Posts: 19,333	Sad day. Ira, where did your avatar go?

04-10-2010, 08:02 AM	#7
Ira Inactive Account Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Coral Springs, FL Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 5,216 Original Poster	Originally posted by Parallax Sad day. Ira, where did your avatar go? I see it on my computer. You don't?

04-10-2010, 08:44 AM	#8
creampuff Veteran Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Singapore Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,953	Such a national tragedy. But the sad part is that the incident has a sad parallel to the death in 1943 of wartime Polish Prime Minister General Władysław Sikorski who also perished in a plane crash.

04-10-2010, 09:20 AM	#9
breethagh New Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Poland Photos: Gallery Posts: 19	Lech Kaczynski with Wife and other 94 politicians was going to Katyn Masacre mourning ceremony. Sad thing is that Katyń Masacre where 14,000 members of the Polish Armed Forces and professional classes who were executed in Katyn Forest 1940. Katyn masacre

04-10-2010, 10:04 AM	#11
matth Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Poznan, Poland Photos: Albums Posts: 34	Thank you.. This a really difficult time for us. Such a lost..

04-10-2010, 10:09 AM	#12
Ratmagiclady Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: GA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 13,563	Originally posted by little laker Ira, For those of us that just got up and haven't heard the news yet. What happened? It seems much of the story was a little slow to get out, at least over here. (There was talk of a bad plane crash for a while before they started saying who was on it.) My condolences, too. I can't say I know much about Poland's politics, but it does sound like a hard day for it to happen, too.

04-10-2010, 10:16 AM	#14
justinr Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Tipperary Photos: Gallery Posts: 394	It is indeed a tragedy and our sympathies to the bereaved but the question must be asked , why were all these people on the same plane?

04-10-2010, 10:26 AM	#15
matth Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Poznan, Poland Photos: Albums Posts: 34	justinr, we have no idea..

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